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Old 06-09-2011, 08:58 AM   #31
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i have the answer to op.............

this only applies to automatic trans.

last year 80,000 wranglers were recalled due to excesive transmission overheating issues...

this problem does exactly what your daughters jeep did.

if you take to dealer they will install a dummy light and tell you to pull over if the light comes on.

i am in the begining of fixing this problem this morning,,and it can be done for around 50 to 60 dollars,,,,

i have been taking pics along the way and i will post everything up later..

this mod is rated at a wieght cap. of 18,000lbs,,thats tripple the cooling that the wrangler needs..

thread will be titled "auto trans super cooler"

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Old 06-09-2011, 09:10 AM   #32
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The sudden and unexplainable stoppage of Jeep engines happened to me in my J2000 "Brutus".

He was a 1976 3/4 ton Jeep pick up with about 40k and a recent dealer rebuilt 401 ci V8. The contractor I bought from said 'no issues'. After about 8 months, I started having 'issues' that were never resolved.

Brutus was a wonderful monster with many design characteristics I really liked, but he was incredibly fragile. At random intervals, driving down the road he would simply die. All the usual remedies would do nothing....spark present, fuel present, just simply die for some period lasting from a few minutes to a few hours. He would then fire up and lurch down the road running otherwise perfectly.

I made a road trip, after suitable assurances from not only the local Jeep dealer but 2 other mechanical institutions, they could find no problem. Didn't make it 400 miles to first 'interruption in forward progress'. Jeep dealer in that town, plus automotive electrical specialist shop could find no issue.

200 miles later, he dies again, but revives himself in 20 minutes. Repeated twice over the next 200 miles, he finally dies in the very most isolated part of eastern Idaho possible. I had to hitch hike to nearest phone, call tow truck to get him to a buddies house. 5 days in the driveway with various highly qualified automotive techs could NOT find cause.

Fast forward, getting 800 miles home was interrupted several times but I finally made it.

Spent over $1000 between diagnostics, towing, various replacement parts that made no difference.

Final straw for Brutus was the morning following my grateful return home, he was dead in the driveway and would not start.

I went down and bought a GMC that day.

By strange coincidence, I never once needed road side assistance or towing in the 20+ years after that.

So far with my 08 Sahara 'Rocinante' there has been zero issues and only joy.

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Old 06-09-2011, 10:18 AM   #33
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I had a "Brutus" LOL a '75 J20. I was going down the highway at about 75MPH and the ingnition module cut out...then it cut back in and BANG!! I then see the cars on either side of me swerve and the truck got super loud - blew my mufflers out when the pent up fuel ignited! That truck would go anywhere - got stuck once, the Chevy K30 4x4 wrecker could not even get to where I was LOL. That being said, the repair was any easy fix. Wranglers do seem to have gremlins overall but that's the price of admission....I do love mine though!
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Old 06-09-2011, 12:32 PM   #34
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My first thought was the oil and hot tranny issue but the second was what both have asked i.e. driving with parking brake on or in 4WD.
Gotta love seeing the phrase "hot tranny issue" I'd be careful about googling that one ...
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Old 06-09-2011, 12:48 PM   #35
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Why should I propose how to fix this "reliability" issue... The customer pays good money for this.. If a dealer cannot fix this, well get the Chrysler folks in action...SOMETHING is wrong and I feel sorry this creates some hardship to a dealership..

By the way, this is the only attitude a customer can and should have.. Part of Quality is "Customer Satisfaction"..
I have to respectfully disagree on this one. I do agree with you that, as consumers, we need to be assertive in protecting our rights. As you have insinuated - and as I have seen - there are many businesses out there that would not hesitate to take advantage of us.

That being said, in this case, I have some empathy for the dealer. If they cannot duplicate the fault, they don't know what to fix. The considerable probability of "user induced error" in this case doesn't warrant tearing the Jeep apart to look for a ground fault. (And no disrespect meant to this young lady, but every pilot knows someone - even military flyers - to have flown an entire leg with 10 degrees of flaps down and then swear they never touched the lever. Nobody's perfect.) Maybe she did hit "2" instead of "D" for a bit.

I don't like dealers any more than the next person, but I'd at least give them a chance to make good.
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Old 06-09-2011, 05:27 PM   #36
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Car , jeep whatever.. I put full warranty on it for the whole term on the lease, they have to fix it for free... It has 640 miles NOTHING shud b wrong with it!!!!

@ least they r being polite calling me telling me wassup with it , it'd been at the dealership since Tuesday, I took a loaner car home all I pay is $5 a day nd have to fill up tank ( it was full when I got it) they made me sign a paper saying I'm responsible for any tickets , scratches ECG, but they didn't give me a paper saying the same thing about my car.. They she give me credit on my monthly bill cuz I'm not using it...
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Day 3 of jeep being serviced they put in a new climate control module but now other modules show up as defective.. He said it cud b an electrical problem , he also said it cud also be the transmission !!!!! This car is SUPPOSED TO BRAND NEW !!! It only has 640 miles on it..
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Pause take a deep breath, count backwards from 10 to 1, and then calmly deal with your service agent. They know it is under warranty and should want to make it right for you. So sorry to hear that your new jeep is having troubles.
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I'm thinking about taking it on LONG drives to see how it drives.. When it's fixed I'll post what the service agent did to it I'll ask for a print out of all changes made
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i have a 2010 mountain 6spd and i got home pulled the "parkingbrake" jeep calls it.... in n "i had a car for 45000 and never left it in gear remote start" and i came outside 5 mins later and it was down in the woods with 15000 miles on it a month after brining it to the dealer cause i thought the parking brake didnt feel right they said it was fine. now its in the body shop with 4000 worth of damage wtf
i brought it to the dealer told jeep they said nothing they could do for me now what?
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Take note that you are replying to a 6 month old post.
I was asking a question, which is irrelevant to the age of the thread. Can you answer the question?
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^^wow,,i think all he was saying is that the op might not respond...daggo has a bunch of good info and seems to be a cool dude,,i dont think he was trying to be a dik.
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i have a 2010 mountain 6spd and i got home pulled the "parkingbrake" jeep calls it.... in n "i had a car for 45000 and never left it in gear remote start" and i came outside 5 mins later and it was down in the woods with 15000 miles on it a month after brining it to the dealer cause i thought the parking brake didnt feel right they said it was fine. now its in the body shop with 4000 worth of damage wtf
i brought it to the dealer told jeep they said nothing they could do for me now what?
My repeated experience with the jeep is that I never seem to pull up hard enough on the e brake but always leave it in gear. I would be afraid of it getting away if I had remote start. The above described scenario would be like my nightmare situation. If I did have remote start, lets say, just put one in; after reading this, I would purchase one of those chocks that has two units to block forwards and backwards. I would never trust my jeep without chalking it if it weren't in gear. Too many instances of if rolling when I put the clutch in while it has been parked on a hill. My opinion is that the ebrake is poorly designed.
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My repeated experience with the jeep is that I never seem to pull up hard enough on the e brake but always leave it in gear. I would be afraid of it getting away if I had remote start. The above described scenario would be like my nightmare situation. If I did have remote start, lets say, just put one in; after reading this, I would purchase one of those chocks that has two units to block forwards and backwards. I would never trust my jeep without chalking it if it weren't in gear. Too many instances of if rolling when I put the clutch in while it has been parked on a hill. My opinion is that the ebrake is poorly designed.
yes and jeep is telling me that im screwed and i have 4000 worth of damage and 15000 miles on it haha. and i cant get the ebrake fixed because jeep say theres nothing wrong with it. if my little cousin came out the front door and got hit by the rolling jeep then jeep might care but they dont......
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yes and jeep is telling me that im screwed and i have 4000 worth of damage and 15000 miles on it haha. and i cant get the ebrake fixed because jeep say theres nothing wrong with it. if my little cousin came out the front door and got hit by the rolling jeep then jeep might care but they dont......
So....are you saying you'd chock the wheel to prevent harm to people? That would be my initial response until the ebrake situation was resolved so that I could use my remote start (if I had one). If I had one installed at this point based on what people on the forums and my experience with it, I wouldn't trust the ebrake alone.

Let me give you an example that doesn't apply to a remote start situation but does to the ebrake. I just got a winch. When you get a new toy that you have never used before your mind goes whacky thinking about all the possibilities....especially when there is 12,000 lbs of torque involved. I have envisioned the jeep on a steep incline unable to move forwards or backwards (I've seen this situation a few times). Given my inability to trust the e brake alone I wonder how I would deal with this situation so that I could get out and set up the winch for a pull. Currently I'm thinking while I'm in 4 low, 1st gear alone should provide enough locking power to the wheels to keep it stationary while I work around it. Of course the ebrake will be pulled. I would trust it to stay stationary if I did that. So, I guess you have to develop some system to insure that it doesn't move without it being in gear. Chock blocks seems sensible for a temporary measure.
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Ok the dealer told me it was a messed up powertrain module, I wanted to know if using cheap gas could cause this?, what cud I do to prevent this in the future?
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o man surprises keep coming.. Picked car up today it was the powertrain module.. The service advisor told me he'd email me the results of repairs wth is that email me ? That was faulty from factory , also they SCUFFED my bumper while they were repairing the check engine light then try to blame me after arguing with them they agreed to fix the scuff/scratch marks on plastic bumper but that means I have to make another 17 mile drive cuz of their damn negligence..
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^^wow,,i think all he was saying is that the op might not respond...daggo has a bunch of good info and seems to be a cool dude,,i dont think he was trying to be a dik.
He probably wasn't and neither was I. I really was asking a legitimate question.

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So, what if it was operator error. Say she had it in 2nd or in 4Lo driving too fast to have the HOTOIL light come on. Would the CEL come on for that and then once it cooled would the CEL turn off since it no longer was an issue? Same reason it wasn't stored?
Would the light come on while it was not working properly and then come off if the vehicle was turned off and the problem went away?

edit: Seelye, I'm not trying to come off as a d1k.

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