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Old 04-16-2009, 09:55 AM   #1
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hey everyone,

My car is coming to an end on its lease i currently drive a 2006 subaru wrx and i was considering getting a jeep. one of the reasons is the problem with my car is i cant fit one hockey bag in it lol. I was always interested in jeep but to be honest i know nothing about it. I was looking at either the rubi or the rubi unlimited. I cant seem to find a big difference between the 2 is it only the size. and what should i look for when i go to the dealer.

Any opinion or adivce for me to think about or anything i might not have thought about would be appreciated.

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Old 04-16-2009, 10:08 AM   #2
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what do you want it for, street, offroad or a little of both?

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Old 04-16-2009, 10:29 AM   #3
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the transfer case,axles,suspension and so on
but if you plan on just going off road every now and than (but just taking it real easy) don't get a Rubi
it is a waste of your money

i bought a '97 TJ with the intention of off roading it 90 percent of the time
so i am slowly fixing it up with lockers, a large lift and such things
but i should have started with a Rubicon

if you just like the look, heck buy an X and lift it and put big mudders on it
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The Unlimited is a 4-door, and has a fair bit more space. Also, the driveshafts and some suspension bits are different, among other bits that are differently sized to accomadate being a fair bit bigger- Mark W.
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Old 04-16-2009, 12:19 PM   #5
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if i wanted to lift and put some bigger tires on a wrangler, what would be different between the X and a rubi? I'm in the market but not sure if I want to pay almost an extra 10k for a rubi
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Old 04-16-2009, 12:30 PM   #6
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the transfer case (lower gears), the axles (stronger), lockers (helps when offroad)

among a few other things
so if you don't plan to off road much, just buy an X and lift it then get bigger tires, an X is still a good off road Jeep in it's own right
don't waste your cash, you can get a GPS with a my gig radio and such and still have cash to take your wife to vegas...

in essence a Rubi is for serious off roaders, but i have seen several mall crawlers (or posers) have them

unless you just have the cash and it isn't even a matter of price...
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Agreed ^ Also, I HIGHLY reccommend the 23S vs. B package if you go X. Gets you factory fog lights (a headache to add later, let me tell you!), tow hooks (rear is EASY to add, but the fronts require cutting the bumper- not fun!), cloth seats, a proper center console, and, most importantly, the ability to get the anti-spin rear diff. The B is stuck with a pathetically open rear diff. The anti-spin makes a world of difference, and will help keep you on the road in crappy weather, especially if you get the stock 16" steel wheels with 225/75/16 Goodyears, which are just this side of worthless as tires!
Anywho, for the $, I say the 23S with the anti-spin is 90% of the rig the Rubi is, and if you'd upgrade wheels and tires anyway, it's more than enough for ya Mark W.
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Old 04-16-2009, 04:14 PM   #8
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the transfer case,axles,suspension and so on
but if you plan on just going off road every now and than (but just taking it real easy) don't get a Rubi
it is a waste of your money

i bought a '97 TJ with the intention of off roading it 90 percent of the time
so i am slowly fixing it up with lockers, a large lift and such things
but i should have started with a Rubicon

if you just like the look, heck buy an X and lift it and put big mudders on it
Contra, your car is 12 years old and you have been working your way up to having it be a good off road vehicle. After all of these years you decide that you should have started with a Rubicon. Now you are advising someone to do the same thing that you did possibly? Go figure.

It is simple. Sahara not so beefy. Rubicon beefy. Better trail rating on the Rubicon. Decide what you want it for and what you can afford. I didn't think I needed the Rubicon and got the Sahara. I got onto the trail a lot with the Sahara. When chrysler bought my Sahara back, I got the Rubicon and I'm in love with it. It looks beefy underneath and it handles well on the trail. It offers me a few more options when the wheels get to spinning with no traction. You'll only wish you had it when you have to get out in knee deep mud to hook up the come-along to pull it out. That is if you brought it with you...or wait to be rescued by some other 4 wheeler. Don't see yourself doing that at all? Don't need the Rubicon...get the Sahara. See, that was easy.

Have fun choosing. They are both fun.
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Old 04-16-2009, 04:37 PM   #9
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I don't own a car
own a truck and a Jeep


and i bought it 1 year ago, and I decided i wanted a Rubi a short time after, but as a former mechanic
I somewhat enjoy the build up, most people don't want to do it or don't know how to do it
and you just advised ageless to do exactly what i suggested
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Old 04-16-2009, 11:09 PM   #10
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thank you all for your comment and opinions it is really appreciated.

since i have always drove a car i never been off roading dont even know if i would like it, plus i dont know where i could even take my jeep offroading here in montreal quebec canada, but that doesnt mean i wont try it i am up for anything. the main purpose of the jeep would be daily driving and honestly one of the things that i thought i would love most about the jeep is on a nice summer day take off the doors and roof and go for a drive.

I would love to modify the jeep i dont know much about jeep parts or what should be done first but thats the fun part in my opinion reading up and figuring what would be the best part.

thanks again
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^ If you're not sure about off-roading, a Rubi would be overkill, man. Like I said, find a 23S package X model with anti-spin rear and the 17" wheels/tires, and you'll be rolling Mark W.
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Old 04-17-2009, 10:37 AM   #12
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Ageless, I was in the same boat as you about a year ago and I decided to get the 4-door X model. I am very happy with my decision. Like you, I hadn't been off-roading much, and wasn't sure how much of it I would do. I have taken my jeep on some off-road trails (nothing extreme) and it handled great. I don't see any reason to get the rubicon if you're mostly using it for daily driving on pavement. I also didn't see much of a reason to get the sahara over the x, but that's just my opinion. Hope this helps.
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Old 04-17-2009, 01:00 PM   #13
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just a little info
i knew i wanted to get an offroader, nothing too extreme, but 99 percent of the use would be for trails, mud and rock crawling (second vehicle, trail rig)

even though i wanted the jeep for this reason
i didn't know the difference between a Rubi and a regular Jeep
i didn't even know about the axle differences, it is good that you are educating yourself here other than how i did and ask (ignorant friends) <-- and that means they didn't know the difference either
so we were all ignorant...

they all told me a Rubicon was just a fancy lifted "X" heck the salesman didn't know the difference either, all he said was it had this cool button that made climbing hills easier
and that an "X" was pretty much the same except for the tires and small lift

i didn't buy new but if i had it to do all over again i (for my needs) would have gotten a Rubi, new or not

but it sounds like you should go "X"
for your needs

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