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Old 08-31-2010, 08:14 AM   #1
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Brand new jeep - oil changes?

BRAND NEW JEEP - OIL CHANGES?

So, a dude I work with also has a Jeep. He claims that a brand new Jeep's oil should be changed at ever 1k mile point for the first 5k miles. Something about a brand new engine being broken in.

If I sound like an idiot for asking please just laugh and forgive me. I'm not a car guy in regards to mechanical things. This is our first brand new vehicle. In the past, if the car started and the radio worked I was good. LoL!

Oh, he also say's we should not take the Jeep on a road trip this soon. We're planning to drive from Minnesota to Kansas City which is about 450 miles. He claimed that the driving is too hard and the first 5k miles should be 'soft' miles.

My initial reaction was "GET THE F**K OUTTA HERE!" but he became very convincing that this is true.

My decision was to blow him off and ask you guys and gals..... lOl!


Thanks again!

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Old 08-31-2010, 09:47 AM   #2
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BS I would change it when the oil change sign comes up period. Unless the manufacturer specifies that procedure than I wouldn't worry about it. factory Engines are throughly torture tested and the only engines that I know that require oil changes frequently are race engines that see high heat, rpm extremes etc on a regular basis. As far as a road trip no problem. Now towing at the maximum tow weight for all those miles might not be recommended but otherwise I would say no worries.....

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Old 08-31-2010, 09:55 AM   #3
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I always thought you were supposed to break the engine in for a bit first. Use conventional motor oil, which allows the piston rings to break in and create a proper seal. This process causes tiny bits of metal to break free as they create the seal.

Dont press it too hard on the first 1000 miles, and then do an oil and filter change.

Now I'm no expert... and am about to have a 2011 Rubicon to break in, so I really want to hear from some of the experts here about the best way.
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Old 08-31-2010, 09:55 AM   #4
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It's a Jeep! Your friend is acting as if it is some prissy new age hybrid ha ha ha! Jeep's are given that name because it means tough. Light comes one, change it. I change mine the first time about 3,500. Then every 5-6k after that... But that is just how I do it with MY jeep. This is your jeep, care to it how YOU see fit.
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Old 08-31-2010, 10:01 AM   #5
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It certainly can't hurt to do the first oil change early, but that would be the most aggressive "break-in" you should do. OK, maybe you shouldn't go out of your way to run it exceptionally hard right away but any ordinary on or off road activity should be fine.

Enjoy your road trip - especially if you can take it off road along the way.
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Old 08-31-2010, 10:20 AM   #6
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First Oil change with new vehicles is no different than any other oil change you are going to do. It won't hurt it to change it too soon, just waste money.

There are Mixed Opinions on going to a full synthetic too soon, so I'd stick with conventional Oil until your first recommended oil change before switching.

As to the road trip, it will be fine. Just try Not to run the Jeep on your road trip at the same RPM for hours on end, such as on cruise control. Vary your speed and especially the engine RPM a bit every now and then during the trip. Maybe take some scenic back roads as a break half way there or something.
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Old 08-31-2010, 12:48 PM   #7
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I always thought you were supposed to break the engine in for a bit first. Use conventional motor oil, which allows the piston rings to break in and create a proper seal. This process causes tiny bits of metal to break free as they create the seal.

Dont press it too hard on the first 1000 miles, and then do an oil and filter change.

Now I'm no expert... and am about to have a 2011 Rubicon to break in, so I really want to hear from some of the experts here about the best way.
I'm with you YoYo. The manual indicates a break in, if you're sticking to the manual. I do except for oil changes. Remember they "recommend". My recommendation is change it the first 1,500 then again at 3,000 then every 3,000 after that. Always with a new filter. Old school, yes. Then again never had a problem with oil consumption, etc. The first oil change is the most critical. If they totally beat up your engine at the factory there wouldn't be an engine left for you. They bench "test" it and drum "test" the vehicle, that's all. Don't switch to synthetic untill 6,000. I say that school is definately in.
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First of all the "dude" at work is a complete idiot. Doesn't anyone bother to even glance through an owner's manual any more? You spend $30k on a vehicle and then look for advice from some idiot? This is from the '09 manual. If you want the '10 manual, go to Jeep.com and download it for free.

ENGINE BREAK-IN RECOMMENDATIONS
A long break-in period is not required for the engine in
your vehicle.
Drive moderately during the first 300 miles (500 km).
After the initial 60 miles (100 km), speeds up to 50 or
55 mph (80 or 90 km/h) are desirable.
While cruising, brief full-throttle acceleration within the
limits of local traffic laws, contributes to a good break-in.
Wide-open throttle acceleration in low gear can be detrimental
and should be avoided.
The engine oil installed in the engine at the factory is a
high-quality energy conserving type lubricant. Oil
changes should be consistent with anticipated climate
conditions under which vehicle operations will occur.
The recommended viscosity and quality grades are
shown in “Engine Oil”, under “Maintenance Procedures”
in section 7 of this manual. NON-DETERGENT OR
STRAIGHT MINERAL OILS MUST NEVER BE USED.
A new engine may consume some oil during its first few
thousand miles (kilometers) of operation. This should be
considered a normal part of the break-in and not interpreted
as an indication of difficulty.

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he also say's we should not take the Jeep on a road trip this soon. We're planning to drive from Minnesota to Kansas City which is about 450 miles. He claimed that the driving is too hard and the first 5k miles should be 'soft' miles.
From your 2010 owner's manual:

ENGINE BREAK-IN RECOMMENDATIONS
A long break-in period is not required for the engine and
drivetrain (transmission and axle) in your vehicle.
Drive moderately during the first 300 miles.

After the initial 60 miles, speeds up to 50 or
55 mph are desirable.

While cruising, brief full-throttle acceleration within the
limits of local traffic laws, contributes to a good break-in.

Wide-open throttle acceleration in low gear can be detrimental
and should be avoided.

The engine oil installed in the engine at the factory is a
high-quality energy conserving type lubricant. Oil
changes should be consistent with anticipated climate
conditions under which vehicle operations will occur.

A new engine may consume some oil during its first few
thousand miles of operation. This should be considered a
normal part of the break-in and not interpreted as an
indication of difficulty.

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as for oil changes...

Considering what you paid for your vehicle, an oil/filter change can hardly ever be thought to be a waste of money. That being said, I can understand how it can be a problem at times for some to find the time to have someone change their oil for them... as for me (old school), I've always done my own oil changes (around 3K), and I can sure tell you that your engine oil even after just 3000 miles can really begin to look kind of mucky

Best of luck with your new Jeep.
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Old 08-31-2010, 02:33 PM   #10
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Mygig wasn't working so the dealer finally got a replacement in. Since I was there anyway and he'd sent me a coupon, had the oil/filter changed at just over 2k for a whopping $27. Worth the price even if it is a bit early.

Oh...and I picked the jeep up new in NC and drove it home to NJ...got a speeding ticket in VA so I guess I missed the part in the manual about driving at 55!

My experience has been that if you drive it harder it performs better in the long run. I don't really want a car that's only been driven by a little old lady because the car tends to perform like a little old lady!

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First oil change at 3,000 and then 6,000. Will change ever 6,000 from this point forward using Mobile 1 Synthetic oil.

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