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Old 06-17-2013, 04:26 AM   #61
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Old 06-17-2013, 04:40 AM   #62
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Is it unreasonable to suggest that they spec a lower octane fuel because people would be pissed putting premium in their truck?

WTH is the purpose of midgrade anyways?
Not unreasonable at all. I would bet that on most vehicles under about $50k, manufacturers want it to run on 87 octane to attract customers or at least not deter them. I work with two guys that have F-150s with the Eco-boost engine. They both have tried a few tanks of 91 instead of the specified 87 minimum. Both claim 1-2 mpg gains.

I'm sure there are some vehicles that specify a minimum octane of 89 (midgrade) but I'm not aware of them. In all honesty, when you buy midgrade gasoline from a station supplied by my refinery, you are buying premium. I can't speak for all refineries, but the five in my area only make 87 and 91 afaik.

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I'm sure there are some vehicles that specify a minimum octane of 89 (midgrade) but I'm not aware of them. In all honesty, when you buy midgrade gasoline from a station supplied by my refinery, you are buying premium. I can't speak for all refineries, but the five in my area only make 87 and 91 afaik.

Do you add more detergent to the "premium" on delivery? Some brands apparently use the same amount across all grades while others don't.
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Old 06-17-2013, 10:57 AM   #64
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Brand? I try to stick with any brand that is TOP TIER certified. As far as octane, I use whatever the owner's manual recommends. Unless extensive engine modifications have been done, anything more is just a waste of money. Our Wrangeler gets 87.

Also, someone asked about midgrade. My V6 Sebring uses it, as recommended in the owner's manual.
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sorry to kill the vibe but my family owns several gasoline stores and they all get it from the same tank LOL
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sorry to kill the vibe but my family owns several gasoline stores and they all get it from the same tank LOL
It's the detergents, which may be added afterwards, not the gas that differs between stations. And that is not always the case, such as you mentioned. But buying Chevron guarantees they'll be in there.
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Do you add more detergent to the "premium" on delivery? Some brands apparently use the same amount across all grades while others don't.
I work for an independent refiner. We don't have an additive like Techron or V-Power. I know V-Power used to be put by Shell in their 91 only. I'm not sure if that's still the case.
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It's the detergents, which may be added afterwards, not the gas that differs between stations. And that is not always the case, such as you mentioned. But buying Chevron guarantees they'll be in there.
I said this is my original post, but you have to read the fine print at the station. Just because the station is a brand name doesn't mean that it has anything to do with that brand. My company owns hundreds of Shell stations. If you look closely, you will notice that there isn't any mention of V-Power. You would also see that in reeeallly small letters it says "Operated by ******" on the pumps. I'm guessing that Chevron also might sell corporate owned stations with branding rights.
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Ok so we have now established from multiple posters who know what they're talking about that there is really no substantial difference between brands of gas.

Maybe the posters who don't work at refineries/distributors/franchisees can just accept that they are now a little more informed, and move on?
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In all honesty, when you buy midgrade gasoline from a station supplied by my refinery, you are buying premium. I can't speak for all refineries, but the five in my area only make 87 and 91 afaik.
When I worked for the distributor, mid grade was just a 50/50 mix of 87 and 91- we mixed it at delivery.
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I find If I take the top and the doors off, Throw my 35" tires on, Turn up my radio and go find a mud puddle to play I generally don't think of gas mileage.....just sayin
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When I worked for the distributor, mid grade was just a 50/50 mix of 87 and 91- we mixed it at delivery.
I've talked to a couple drivers that told me they just put 91 in the 89 tank. I wonder if the practice changes between companies or if it's a newer regulation. It might also change by state. Unfortunately, I'm in California.
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I've talked to a couple drivers that told me they just put 91 in the 89 tank. I wonder if the practice changes between companies or if it's a newer regulation. It might also change by state. Unfortunately, I'm in California.
Some stations only have two tanks -- 87 and 91 -- the pump itself then does the mixing.

In California, you're probably seeing a lot of the same mixture/level of detergents at a lot of gas stations. The reason for which is directly proportional to the level of idiocy in this state. Namely, California (and I believe NJ, too) decided that they needed "special" gas mixtures for winter/summer and therefor we don't truck in gas from other states' refineries. Screw this place, I can't wait to move to Texas.
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Lol the lowest gas we got is 91 and the higher 95 here in Saudi Arabia.
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Some stations only have two tanks -- 87 and 91 -- the pump itself then does the mixing.
Now that you mention it, we only had one station with an 89 tank, which we filled half and half. All other stations had just the two tanks, so the 89 must've been mixed at the pump, as you said.
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Lol the lowest gas we got is 91 and the higher 95 here in Saudi Arabia.
At $1 a gallon too. The Saudis aren't self hating oil producers like us Americans; Saudis love the black gold while we sit on trillions of gallons because the eco freaks think Caribou don't like shiny pipes.
Oddly, the Caribou love those pipes:
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I fill my tank with 91 for 10$
But its the only thing is cheap here like if want to buy a bumper like rampage or similar product the us price up to 500$ here its like 1200$ and such.
Brand new jku Sahara is around 37k without extras with 60k miles warranty not extendable.
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