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Old 11-10-2012, 11:23 PM   #1
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Broken Track Bar

While wheeling today my rear track bar broke. This is the second time it has happened, both times in the same place- the weld breaks right off of the axle. Last time I welded it back, and it that everything I welded is still intact so its not like it broke again because of a bad weld.

Im almost positive I didn't hit anything, so im wondering why this keeps breaking... stress? But from what? I didn't disconnect the sway bars but I dont know if that would have done anything.

Im thinking about getting this bracket this time- It looks much beefier.
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If you know why this is happening, what I can do to prevent it, or if it has happened to you- then please help me out!

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Old 11-11-2012, 05:53 AM   #2
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Pictures, please, so we can see what is actually breaking.

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here are some pictures of where it broke off the axle and the track bar itself
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This is the stock track bar, is it breaking because I have a 2 inch lift? Should I get an adjustable track bar?
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You need to upgrade those mounts with HD weld on replacements.

That's crazy... No holding back huh? Lol
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Old 11-11-2012, 04:06 PM   #6
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It may be due to your lift. I have a 2.5" lift and it came with a new HD rear trackbar bracket. It's an AEV, they might sell them separately if so you should look into it, I think that would be your best bet.
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Old 11-11-2012, 04:10 PM   #7
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This is the stock track bar, is it breaking because I have a 2 inch lift? Should I get an adjustable track bar?
That was kind of an important thing to not mention in the first place... Yup, without a new track bar you are going to be loading the stock mount to breaking point at any kind of extension...

Or, track bar relocation... or both...
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I bought my '07 JKU last year and had the same problem 4 mos after I bought it: http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/wor...le-135460.html
The PO had put a suspension lift kit on it and didn't upgrade anything else. Come to find out he didn't change out the sway bar links and that caused them to invert and put a stress on my whole steering linkage that I believe was the cause: http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/why...ng-171789.html
I bought adjustable links to bring the sway bar level and also replace the track bar for an adjustable one. I think this would be your fix.
I have since installed Artec armor with it's beefed up track bar bracke. Not saying that is what you should do but I just wanted to give another option.
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tomorrow Im getting the JKS rear track bar replacement. should I also get the track bar relocation bracket? will that keep me from having to get a new track bar?
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I'm not 100% sure about that, hopefully someone with more trackbar experiance will chime in.

My experiance has been with the swaybar links. I'd also look under and check out your swaybar. If it is level like the first picture below, then that's not your problem. If your sway bar hangs down more that about 3-degrees, like in the 2nd pic, you skould either move your rear swaybar links forward from your rear axle, or try to pickup some new, longer links.
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I bought my '07 JKU last year and had the same problem 4 mos after I bought it: http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/wor...le-135460.html
The PO had put a suspension lift kit on it and didn't upgrade anything else. Come to find out he didn't change out the sway bar links and that caused them to invert and put a stress on my whole steering linkage that I believe was the cause: http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/why...ng-171789.html
I bought adjustable links to bring the sway bar level and also replace the track bar for an adjustable one. I think this would be your fix.
I have since installed Artec armor with it's beefed up track bar bracke. Not saying that is what you should do but I just wanted to give another option.
BADASS, looks like it could take a beating!
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OP. Yup, you will need to grind off ALL of the old shit, buff off all the paint and then weld on the new bracket. The JKS one in the link on your first post looks to be a good one, RK makes a good one, and I am sure there are several others that will be much better than the stock one. Make sure you are up to the task, or get some one that is a competent welder to do the job. I wouldn't want to trust my life to something this important if I wasn't capable of making it trustworthy.
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BADASS, looks like it could take a beating!
Ya, good stuff.
It's American made too: http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/art...ew-183282.html
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tomorrow Im getting the JKS rear track bar replacement. should I also get the track bar relocation bracket? will that keep me from having to get a new track bar?
Yes, get the relocation bracket to replace the broken one. And myself, I would just go ahead and get the new trackbar also
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IMO the 2" lift didn't cause the OPs trackbar bracket to fail. The axle mount on the JKs is known to be weak. Aftermarket lift kits sometimes feature a trackbar bracket to correct the roll center. The added benefit is it reinforces the axe mount.

Based on the pics of the broken mount and the trackbar bushing, there is more to the story than what the OP is telling us. LOL
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imo the 2" lift didn't cause the ops trackbar bracket to fail. The axle mount on the jks is known to be weak. Aftermarket lift kits sometimes feature a trackbar bracket to correct the roll center. The added benefit is it reinforces the axe mount.

Based on the pics of the broken mount and the trackbar bushing, there is more to the story than what the op is telling us. Lol
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TF's track bad relocation and brace. It's main purpose is geometry but the added axle tube U-clamp and lca bolt mount adds some strength.
My guess it was f***** to begin with and not corrected a failed again.
Grind away the old crap like mentioned and have a HD mount welded on.
A adjustable track bar will center the axle but had nothing to do with what happened.
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IMO the 2" lift didn't cause the OPs trackbar bracket to fail. The axle mount on the JKs is known to be weak. Aftermarket lift kits sometimes feature a trackbar bracket to correct the roll center. The added benefit is it reinforces the axe mount.

Based on the pics of the broken mount and the trackbar bushing, there is more to the story than what the OP is telling us. LOL
You are probly 100% correct, but he still needs new HD bracket welded on. And he probly should install new HD trackbar to keep things sanitary.
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You are probly 100% correct, but he still needs new HD bracket welded on. And he probly should install new HD trackbar to keep things sanitary.
I agree with you there. Since he needs to put a new bracket on he needs to go "balls deep". LOL
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I agree with you there. Since he needs to put a new bracket on he needs to go "balls deep". LOL
Balls deep ... That works
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Balls deep ... That works
Using a beefy HD bracket with deep penetrating welds.
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Yes, get the relocation bracket to replace the broken one. And myself, I would just go ahead and get the new trackbar also
Do you need to drain gear oil when wielding on the axle housing?
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Using a beefy HD bracket with deep penetrating welds.


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Do you need to drain gear oil when wielding on the axle housing?
No, you don't need to drain it. I've had a HD rear track bar mount welded on to my rear axle. It actually turns out to only be about 6 total inches of weld when it's said and done. A pretty small amount of welding.
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Using a beefy HD bracket with deep penetrating welds.
Yup. Ya got the idea now!!!
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So I got it fixed! Here is what was done, its extremely heavy duty- if this thing breaks, its taking the axle with it!
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uh, who welded those? those welds look like shit, just look at that last picture, did they miss the first time? jesus, no wonder if keeps breaking off!

but good luck, hopefully it doesnt break again!
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Lmfao. Have to agree with sneck. Those welds look like shit.
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Is your welder buddy drunk?
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Could be "stick" welded; won't look as pretty; but strong as hell= my kind of welding

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