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Old 02-16-2013, 02:08 PM   #1
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Old 02-20-2013, 07:48 PM   #3
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Has anyone heard of a release date?
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Old 02-21-2013, 05:23 PM   #4
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Has anyone heard of a release date?
It's available now...
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Old 02-21-2013, 06:17 PM   #5
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Mine is being shipped right now.
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Good to know! Gave up looking. They told me you'd be able to change shift points- but that was prior to actual release. Please keep us up to date when you get yours Derf!
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Old 02-21-2013, 11:56 PM   #7
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Here's the info from Bully Dog:


http://www.bullydog.com/product.php?...0JK%20WRANGLER

Inside the "information sheet" are some dyno charts and it says 11.5 HP And 15.3 ft/lbs torque. BUT IT LABELS A 3.8L as the vehicle. Weird.

Let us know. It would be cool to know the dyno values on both Bully Dog and Diablo
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:00 AM   #8
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I'm excited to hear the results from real users.
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:06 AM   #9
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Let us know. It would be cool to know the dyno values on both Bully Dog and Diablo
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I want dyno results too! I'm interested to see some feedback and comparisons between all these tuners coming out for the Pentastar.
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:27 AM   #10
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Good to know! Gave up looking. They told me you'd be able to change shift points- but that was prior to actual release. Please keep us up to date when you get yours Derf!
I'm actually going to be picking it up in Texas next Thursday. I'm going down there for a 4x4 event with the club I was in when I lived down there. I'm going to stop off at the local chain 4x4 shop where my buddy is a manager and pick it up while I'm in town.

Since I'm driving down and driving back, I'll have a good 800+ miles in each direction to get some good mileage numbers.
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The Bully Dog seems to have more features. Including the locker bypass (2WD, 4HI)! Very useful for my needs. But due to their reputation on diesels in the recent past, I'd like to see their results and customer service results on the gas side of things. They were having some programming issues and continuing to sell products knowingly with heinous customer service on Dodge diesels. I hope those days are long gone. The functions look great and I want to consider this programmer.
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I could be wrong, & have no facts, but last I'd heard on the Mopar/SRT forums Diablo was the tuner of choice & by a land slide.
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I'm actually going to be picking it up in Texas next Thursday. I'm going down there for a 4x4 event with the club I was in when I lived down there. I'm going to stop off at the local chain 4x4 shop where my buddy is a manager and pick it up while I'm in town.

Since I'm driving down and driving back, I'll have a good 800+ miles in each direction to get some good mileage numbers.
this what i'm intersted in... will it improve economy enough to be worth the $600

looking forward to your follow up
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this what i'm intersted in... will it improve economy enough to be worth the $600

looking forward to your follow up
It would take a LOT of miles to see a return.

How long to do plan to keep the Jeep. Most people buy the programmer for other reasons.
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It would take a LOT of miles to see a return.

How long to do plan to keep the Jeep. Most people buy the programmer for other reasons.
I tried to throw together some rough numbers.

If you averaged 16 mpg, and got a 10% improvement in mileage from the programmer, you would save $22.73 every 1000 miles. I came up with 26,400 miles to break even, assuming gas at $4/gallon
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It would take a LOT of miles to see a return.

How long to do plan to keep the Jeep. Most people buy the programmer for other reasons.
I'm not buying it for the economy improvement. I'm buying it for all the other things it will let me do.

But since I'll have a real-world long road trip to use to get mileage numbers, I'll post them for the people who are interested. It's not like I'm going out of my way just to get the numbers.

Look for a post Monday (04 March) night or Tuesday (05 March) sometime. If you don't see me post anything PM me and remind me to post up the information.
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I tried to throw together some rough numbers.

If you averaged 16 mpg, and got a 10% improvement in mileage from the programmer, you would save $22.73 every 1000 miles. I came up with 26,400 miles to break even, assuming gas at $4/gallon
I drive that in one year. Nice! Thx for the quick calculations jonw9
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I am still waiting for an updated traildash for the 2012's. I don't know where I'd mount the bullydog
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Those numbers are a bit misleading. They are probably from 93 octane tune, not 87 with a smoother map. To be honest, the only reason I wanted one of these tuners is to adjust the shift points. Sadly, it seems none of them will do it.
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The Traildash can.....for a few moments. They said at SEMA that they were able to do this. BUT the security protocol on the Jeep would wipe the programming out as soon as they turned the Jeep off. And that was all the way back in October. Still keeping fingers crossed and watching this thread....
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I am still waiting for an updated traildash for the 2012's. I don't know where I'd mount the bullydog
Did you follow the link. Down at the bottom right (maybe a bit different on mobile) there's a link for mounting options:

"view all items related to GT for jeep"
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Those numbers are a bit misleading. They are probably from 93 octane tune, not 87 with a smoother map. To be honest, the only reason I wanted one of these tuners is to adjust the shift points. Sadly, it seems none of them will do it.
What numbers?
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i wonder if you can use this without tuning the motor. I would by one just so I could contol the diffs and traction control. I wonder if it would cause any warranty problems if you just used it to contol these features but left the stock tune
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i wonder if you can use this without tuning the motor. I would by one just so I could contol the diffs and traction control. I wonder if it would cause any warranty problems if you just used it to contol these features but left the stock tune
Just remove it before going to the dealership and you have no concerns. Even the tunes can be removed and the ECU/PCM returned to stock.
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What numbers?
The HP and tq gains.
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Just remove it before going to the dealership and you have no concerns. Even the tunes can be removed and the ECU/PCM returned to stock.
Not according to some of the members here. They will still know it was messed with because every time you bring your jeep to the dealer they check for firmware updates and such so they will see that something has been reprogrammed.
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Not according to some of the members here. They will still know it was messed with because every time you bring your jeep to the dealer they check for firmware updates and such so they will see that something has been reprogrammed.
Hmm, interesting. That's contrary to what Elarson was reporting about his tuner. I'm under the impression they all piggy back the ECU/PCM in the same manner.
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I tried to throw together some rough numbers.

If you averaged 16 mpg, and got a 10% improvement in mileage from the programmer, you would save $22.73 every 1000 miles. I came up with 26,400 miles to break even, assuming gas at $4/gallon
nicely done ! i like the cut of your jib

we're cut from the same cloth.... CRUNCH THE NUMBERS ! ! !
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Just remove it before going to the dealership and you have no concerns. Even the tunes can be removed and the ECU/PCM returned to stock.
I know the new ford PCM set a code that the ford scan tool pulls when a vehicle has been tuned. I know ford will bounce warranty clams if a vehicle has those codes in it. I'm not sure if clearing the kam will clear that code or not.
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Hmm, interesting. That's contrary to what Elarson was reporting about his tuner. I'm under the impression they all piggy back the ECU/PCM in the same manner.
According to a few members (I honestly don't remember which forum I read this on), everytime a Jeep is brought in for service, it is plugged in so they can check if there are any updates available. Apparently reprogramming the ECU, even if brought back to stock will let them know that something WAS done, and not by them. I will dig around and see if I can find the thread I am talking about.

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