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Old 10-02-2013, 06:07 PM   #61
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that sounds ridiculous..... unless this is an American car thing as of this year, i have never heard about such a thing of the dealers cheating you out of a full tank of gas.

different brand but i purchased my yaris brand new last year january, it came with a full tank of gas, freshly washed up, and i didnt even pay for the OEM floor mats...

If Jeep is really doing something like this, that is just low.....

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Old 10-02-2013, 06:08 PM   #62
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I use to always get a full tank and never asked. This time they gave me not even half of a tank and when I asked they said they can't spend the money to fill them up anymore.... Thought that was a bunch of B.S kind of pissed me off and wanted to tell them to keep it. I bought a 4 door Rubi 10A not like it was some used car for less than 10K or something.

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Old 10-02-2013, 06:12 PM   #63
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Even though I own a gas station, I've received over a dozen tanks of gas last year from the dealership. Every person that I send to my salesman that buys a vehicle, new or used, earns me a tank of gas. When I bought the jeep I received a tank too.
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Old 10-02-2013, 08:05 PM   #64
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Ok maybe I should have clarified. The dealership where I bought my 14 gives a full tank of gas on all new vehicles and a half on used vehicles.
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Old 10-02-2013, 08:09 PM   #65
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i even got a full tank on my used 10. my dealer is a certified badass though
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Old 10-02-2013, 08:24 PM   #66
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I got about a 1/4 tank when I bought my wrangler. And ya know, I couldn't care less. If I was really worried about that small amount of money then I definitely would not be trading in a perfectly good vehicle and definitely would not be trading it for a Chrysler product!
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Old 10-02-2013, 08:34 PM   #67
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Mine came with a full tank. I did ask but got no grief from them.
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Old 10-02-2013, 11:39 PM   #68
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It is the dealers choice to fill it or not--so it is a dealers policy one way or another and I am sure it has nothing to do with the buyer or the price paid. Only a fool would think that no matter how much below the MRSP paid that the dealer did not make money on the sale --you need to ask yourself how long would they be in business if they were selling cars and not making a profit. I doubt the fact of no matter how much gas was in the tank that it would be a deal breaker.
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Old 10-03-2013, 12:00 AM   #69
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The last four new cars we have purchased, a VW, a Toyota, a Subaru, and finally a Jeep JKU, all from different dealers and all came with a full tank of gas.
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It is the dealers choice to fill it or not--so it is a dealers policy one way or another and I am sure it has nothing to do with the buyer or the price paid. Only a fool would think that no matter how much below the MRSP paid that the dealer did not make money on the sale --you need to ask yourself how long would they be in business if they were selling cars and not making a profit. I doubt the fact of no matter how much gas was in the tank that it would be a deal breaker.

Dealers can sell autos below invoice because they dont pay invoice. New autos have right around a $5000 markup generally. Manufactures offer cash incentives to sell cars so they can sell a car at cost or below and make money. This is a good deal for the consumer win win for everyone.

Used cars....I have seen markups as much as $10,000.

And those customer feedback questions you get from a dealer.....theres only one important question on them that counts.

Was the customer service "EXCELLENT". That question yields right around $1200 per questionnaire to the dealer if marked with the highest rating. Thats why the salesman is so adamant about it.

My jeep came with half a tank. I dont get to excited over a tank of gas when we are dealing with thousands of dollars.

The more free crap the dealer is willing to give you is an indication of how much you over paid.


I will say that if the dealer gives you a full tank that you paid for and it makes you feel better about the sale - go for it. Its good PR i guess?
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Old 10-03-2013, 12:49 AM   #71
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Ive purchased two vehicals from dealerships. 1 Chevy, 1 Chrystler. Both were nearly on empty.
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Old 10-03-2013, 03:16 AM   #72
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Dealers can sell autos below invoice because they dont pay invoice. New autos have right around a $5000 markup generally. Manufactures offer cash incentives to sell cars so they can sell a car at cost or below and make money. This is a good deal for the consumer win win for everyone.

Used cars....I have seen markups as much as $10,000.

And those customer feedback questions you get from a dealer.....theres only one important question on them that counts.

Was the customer service "EXCELLENT". That question yields right around $1200 per questionnaire to the dealer if marked with the highest rating. Thats why the salesman is so adamant about it.

My jeep came with half a tank. I dont get to excited over a tank of gas when we are dealing with thousands of dollars.

The more free crap the dealer is willing to give you is an indication of how much you over paid.


I will say that if the dealer gives you a full tank that you paid for and it makes you feel better about the sale - go for it. Its good PR i guess?
Could be or it could be that you over paid and got screwed out of a tank of fuel also
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Gorilla's spot on...

The factory incentives and advertising fees you pay as part of the purchase price fund dealer gratuities. It's just another line item on the balance sheet. Cost of goods sold.

If you order a vehicle its generally a pass through to the dealer.. it briefly hits inventory on the books.. lot taxes don't need to be paid - and in turn, the dealer collects hold back, factory incentives and kick backs from banks, maintenance plans, etc.

You're not getting anything free when you buy a new vehicle.. everyone in the value chain gets a slice of your dollars.

If you actually believe you're receiving free gas, keep dreaming.

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The dealer is in business to make a profit and we all pay for a lot more than a tank a gas, but detailing the vehicle and filling the tank has been a service courtesy for a long time. Given the recent markup on Wranglers to an average sticker price near $40K the least dealers from a corporation (Chrysler) that was circling the drain 4 years ago could do is fill up the tank.
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Old 10-03-2013, 04:34 AM   #75
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A new diesel truck has 5k of markup but a Dart has $100. Just an FYI for you the doc fee you pay will pay for the fuel. And as a dealer, if we aren't making any money, we are not giving away free gas.
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Dealers can sell autos below invoice because they dont pay invoice. New autos have right around a $5000 markup generally. Manufactures offer cash incentives to sell cars so they can sell a car at cost or below and make money. This is a good deal for the consumer win win for everyone.

Used cars....I have seen markups as much as $10,000.

And those customer feedback questions you get from a dealer.....theres only one important question on them that counts.

Was the customer service "EXCELLENT". That question yields right around $1200 per questionnaire to the dealer if marked with the highest rating. Thats why the salesman is so adamant about it.

My jeep came with half a tank. I dont get to excited over a tank of gas when we are dealing with thousands of dollars.

The more free crap the dealer is willing to give you is an indication of how much you over paid.


I will say that if the dealer gives you a full tank that you paid for and it makes you feel better about the sale - go for it. Its good PR i guess?
Great point the more you get the more they made--The hold back money is their guaranteed profit margin which is based on a percentage of what the value of the vehicle is. All dealers pay the same for the vehicles so it is up to the dealer to determine what the bottom line ---never get caught up on dealer invoice --the true cost of the vehicle is below that--they just let us know that price so we all feel good about the deal.
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Old 10-03-2013, 08:25 AM   #77
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Guess it comes down to the dealership and their policies. Like i stated before i received my 2012 jku (brand new at the time) on empty
My very first new car, custom ordered just for me, was delivered to me with an empty tank. I had to drive to the first station, and fill it up.

I learned. For every new car, I have them write into the order, full tank of gas and no dealer plaque/sticker on the back.
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Old 10-03-2013, 08:45 AM   #78
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I picked up my 2014 JKU with 5 gallons in the tank. But I expected it, so I dropped off my trade-in with the gas light on. I say we're even.
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I always ask while doing the paperwork on any vehicle I am purchasing. I know somewhere in all their numbers I am paying for a full tank anyway. I never accept a vehicle new or used without it being topped off.

When I asked on the purchase of my USED 2012 JKU, my salesman said it was being filled as we spoke. If the statement was true or not, it was delivered to me Freshly Detailed with a full tank of gasoline. I was even given a walk though on programing my radio for my phone's bluetooth. And demonstrations on how to use the 4WD, Freedom Top removal, and slamming the doors, cause it's a jeep thing.

I don't believe a dealer gives you anything for free. It's all there in the numbers somewhere on every deal.
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Old 10-03-2013, 09:05 AM   #80
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My dealer told me that they only put 10 gallons of gas on new cars now, not a full tank anymore. Simply another way of making more money...(like if they don't make enough already!)
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Old 10-03-2013, 10:38 AM   #81
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I picked my Jeep and drove off with it that same night. They said they didn't have enough time to go get the tank filled up, but they gave me a voucher to go to a gas station right down the street from the dealership and get a full tanks worth of gas. I had no trouble redeeming it, and of course filled it with premium
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I had no trouble redeeming it, and of course filled it with premium
Why? The owners manual specifies 87 octane regular.
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Old 10-03-2013, 12:34 PM   #83
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LOL I texted my wife on the way home (at a red light) letting her know I needed to get gas because my gas light come on. I have never bought a vehicle that didn't have a full tank. Pretty much a WTF moment.

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