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Old 05-28-2012, 02:12 AM   #1
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Buying Jeep Rubican vs. Rubicon Unlimited

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I'm ready to buy and am wracking my brains out trying to decide between a new 2012 Rubicon or Rubicon Unlimited. Is there any significant tradeoffs or differences in off road performance between the two? How significant is the difference in breakover: 25.3 versus 20.8 for the unlimited?

I've have a 2010 Nissan Xterra Off Road edition and it has been a good off road vehicle to be sure. I like its versatility and it is a good all around genuine and under-rated off road vehicle. But it has its limits and is not a hard core off road vehicle without a lot of mods. And I would rather put that money towards a new Rubicon. And I'm getting close to having to replace the stock tires which is another little bit of money I'd rather put to a new Rubicon. The other thing is I go out to a lot of remote areas where it can be a long walk back and I do hit some really rough terrains some times. I don't like to push a vehicle to its limits and I think the Rubicon's limits would be a lot more than the Xterra.

Obviously the unlimited has more cargo space and it is easier on back seat entrance. One thing that worries me a little is that for back seat passengers getting in and getting out requires a little bit of acrobatics. I'm concerned that some of my friends might avoid driving in the vehicle with me.

I would really appreciate opinions and experience on this.

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From my understanding the unlimited is best for:
Better towing
More space, cargo or passenger
Smoother ride

From what you said sounds like you want the 2 door all the way up until you mentioned passengers. My sister is 5'6" ish and had trouble getting into the back seat of the 2 door.

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...... I'm concerned that some of my friends might avoid driving in the vehicle with me.
Is this a negative or positive?

Is your offroading trails or rock crawling? or both?
Another positive about the 2 dr is the turn radius. It can make some short corners that the 4 dr can't.

If passengers and cargo space are your priority, get the 4dr. I'm usually alone in my jeep so the 2 dr. is perfect for me.
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I had a hard time with that decision as well. I ended up buying both. Currently I prefer driving the Unlimited, especially offroad.
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Old 05-28-2012, 07:07 AM   #6
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Look at what your needs are.

odds are your heart is already calling in one direction but you are ignoring it for some reason.

-in other words, just get the Unlimited. No one with think you less "fun" or 'trail worthy" and you'll have room for your stuff and maybe a couple of friends too.
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I needed more room for -me myself and I -so I bought a 2 door

Stock , the JKU does look a little depressing but modded trust, your friends will want to ride with you.
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I bought a 2dr 2012 Rubicon, mainly because I like the look better than the 4dr. Usually, 99% of the time, only 1 or 2 people are in the vehicle.The back seat is nearly impossible to get into, so if you anticipate carrying more than two persons a lot don't buy the 2dr.
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I have the 2dr 2012 Rubicon. my kids are tall and there is room in back for them. The issue is more entry and egress. It's not ideal, you wouldn't want your grandma to climb in the back, but for healthy agile adults - not a problem.
I like the relative smaller size and traditional jeep look of the 2dr vs 4dr.
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I have the 2dr 2012 Rubicon. my kids are tall and there is room in back for them. The issue is more entry and egress. It's not ideal, you wouldn't want your grandma to climb in the back, but for healthy agile adults - not a problem.
I like the relative smaller size and traditional jeep look of the 2dr vs 4dr.
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i bought the four door instead of the two door for many reasons but the main one is the ride difference and extra space.the two door can take turns better but you have reverse for a reason and if its a big deal just change your line a little and you will go where you want.go with four if you want your buddys to get in and out with no problems
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It's just my girlfriend and me and I wanted something that was more nimble on tight trails here, of which we have many. This is also not my DD.

If you carry friends or lots of gear and if it a DD on top of that, I would recommend the JKU. If you do a lot of camping with another person, and maybe have a big dog- get the JKU.

The 2-door is much more prevalent off-road. It is a lot more nimble and has better breakover angles. Rough and tight trails- the JK is more fun. On top of that, it looks like a real Jeep...especially from the side.
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If you carry friends or lots of gear and if it a DD on top of that, I would recommend the JKU. If you do a lot of camping with another person, and maybe have a big dog- get the JKU.
I agree with HK_Runner comments. I wanted an overland/expedition type vehicle that could carry lot's of gear. Put the rear seats down and it really opens up the option to carry plenty of gear for a long trip. Mine is also a daily driver and I regularly transport out of town co-workers to and from the airport. The JKU just made more sense and it is much easier to get in the back.
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Are you getting an automatic or a manual?
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I went from an '06 XTERRA OR to the '08 JKUR and it's like going from an F16 to an F18, both great fighters, nut the F18 is a little better and more nimble !


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Hi

I'm ready to buy and am wracking my brains out trying to decide between a new 2012 Rubicon or Rubicon Unlimited. Is there any significant tradeoffs or differences in off road performance between the two? How significant is the difference in breakover: 25.3 versus 20.8 for the unlimited?

I've have a 2010 Nissan Xterra Off Road edition and it has been a good off road vehicle to be sure. I like its versatility and it is a good all around genuine and under-rated off road vehicle. But it has its limits and is not a hard core off road vehicle without a lot of mods. And I would rather put that money towards a new Rubicon. And I'm getting close to having to replace the stock tires which is another little bit of money I'd rather put to a new Rubicon. The other thing is I go out to a lot of remote areas where it can be a long walk back and I do hit some really rough terrains some times. I don't like to push a vehicle to its limits and I think the Rubicon's limits would be a lot more than the Xterra.

Obviously the unlimited has more cargo space and it is easier on back seat entrance. One thing that worries me a little is that for back seat passengers getting in and getting out requires a little bit of acrobatics. I'm concerned that some of my friends might avoid driving in the vehicle with me.

I would really appreciate opinions and experience on this.
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I went and drove both. While the Jk looked a little cooler the JKU was a far better fit to my needs. If its going to be your DD I would look closer at the JKU, IMO it rides far better. Good luck and post up some pics when you pull the trigger.
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Are you getting an automatic or a manual?
I'm going automatic. These comments have all been helfpul.
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Old 05-28-2012, 10:29 PM   #20
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By many accounts the JKUR is the best production overland vehicle in the world. So if your needs relate to anything in that category go with JKUR.

I have a two door (TJ) and while it works as a DD 80% of the time but my next jeep will be JKU or LJ
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Old 03-12-2015, 11:59 PM   #21
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Same boat!

Hope this thread is still active.

New to crawlin & trailin. I want the 4:1 Rock-Trac so I'm lookin for Rubicon yrs 2012-2015 manual trans & lookin for any advise/opinion pros & cons to help me to make up my mind between the JK & JKU.

Wife & I (retired) will be doin moderate rock crawlin/trailin w/ groups & pullin popup sleep trailer. Very seldom back seat passengers. JK has 4 deg break over advantage. We would be happy w/ either model.
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Old 03-13-2015, 12:28 AM   #22
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I wonder what he bought, considering the topic was from May 2012.


O yea, the unlimited also has a larger fuel tank.
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Hope this thread is still active.

New to crawlin & trailin. I want the 4:1 Rock-Trac so I'm lookin for Rubicon yrs 2012-2015 manual trans & lookin for any advise/opinion pros & cons to help me to make up my mind between the JK & JKU.

Wife & I (retired) will be doin moderate rock crawlin/trailin w/ groups & pullin popup sleep trailer. Very seldom back seat passengers. JK has 4 deg break over advantage. We would be happy w/ either model.
The unlimited is rated to tow more weight.
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After doin some more research (reading) I'm really leanin towards the 4 door because I want to pull a popup camp trailer 3100 gvw AND occasionally move folks around so 4 doors would be nice.
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Gee Wiz, another one brought back from the grave......

Two door verses four door......
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Yeah, (some) good things never go away!
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Two door has better break over angle. Four door less like to roll over backwards. Both are great, depending on purpose.
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But which is better for towing my 7000 lb boat?
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But which is better for towing my 7000 lb boat?


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