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Old 06-04-2013, 01:47 AM   #1
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Question Buying with hail damage?

Hey, all. First time post, shopping for a JKU. A local dealership has several, but the one I'm most interested in has fairly noticeable hail damage. And by "fairly noticeable", I mean if you're standing within several feet and look at the hood at the right angle, you notice. Back off a bit, or look at it casually and you wouldn't notice.

I'm actually OK with that, especially since this model matches 90+% of my wish list, and I've looked pretty hard regionally. However, what should I bargain for in terms of price discount? From my research, it seems the online asking price is already down to almost dealer invoice. I considered the Tread Lightly membership but the amount ends up being a wash. I think the hail damage is my main negotiating point - and I could use a bargain! I'm thinking 5% under dealer invoice is a reasonable place to start talking - too much? Too little? And btw, does anyone have a link to confirm 2013 dealer invoice values?

Love the color and options, but willing to walk. Want me a Jeep, though!!!

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Old 06-04-2013, 03:03 AM   #2
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Why start out with a damaged new vehicle?

With all the Wranglers being produced, I can imaine there's not more out there for the pickings.

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Old 06-04-2013, 03:44 AM   #3
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I bought a "healthy" new Jeep at 3% under invoice. I wouldn't touch it. Too many fish in the sea. Move on.

Worst case, get them to fix it and pay no more than 1-3 % below invoice.
Edmonds has the invoice numbers pretty well done, but if they're a good dealer, they'll show you the invoice.
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Old 06-04-2013, 04:16 AM   #4
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I wonder why they haven't fixed it?
And before I bought, I'd look into how much it would cost to fix.
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Old 06-04-2013, 04:23 AM   #5
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Other than the hood, is there damage anywhere else? If it is JUST the hood that's damaged, I'd shoot for 6 to 8% below invoice and buy a replacement hood. Have the dealer paint the replacement hood and install it as part of the deal.

If there is damage in other places, I'd walk. As was said before, too many fish in the sea.

Dealer hasn't fixed it because they've probably received a settlement check from their insurance for the damage - which is why I'd shoot for such a low price. They've already made (some of) their money on it.

If you do buy this, make 100% sure that nothing will show up on any CarFax report because that'll kill your resale value if you ever sell.
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Old 06-04-2013, 06:40 AM   #6
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Do it like this:

price for the jeep standard invoice less 1-2% (invoice prices in the 2013 sticky at the top)

then for the hail damage

less 900 for a new hood

JK Heat Reduction Hood - Hood / Snorkels - Body / Exterior - Shop By Category

+ 100 dollars shipping


edit: looks like the sticky became unstuck

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/201...ad-161113.html

invoice price is in brackets
+ 500 for factory matching paint

+ 100 dollars for you your time and effort

so hail damage = 1600 off. Round it off to 2000 since it will never be exact and come resale/trade in down the road it will surely be marked somewhere as a hail damaged vehicle.

So cost of vehicle: invoice less 1-2%, hail damage discount: $2000

Spell it out to them like the above and see what they say.

Provided this damage is only on the hood. Inspect it thoroughly everywhere, even if there is one dent anywhere else.
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Old 06-04-2013, 06:45 AM   #7
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I'd also make sure what you're looking at isn't an already "fixed" hood. In other words, it doesn't show as much now because it used to be worse and what you're looking at is the result of an attempt to fix it.

Again, all this conjecture for a new Jeep, when there's so many out there! Move on to one without any question marks around it. You'll be glad you did.
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invoice prices for 2013, sticky appears to be unstuck now

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/201...ad-161113.html

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