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Old 05-07-2013, 04:30 PM   #1
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c gusset

Can somebody explain this to me. What is it and what are they for?

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Old 05-07-2013, 04:44 PM   #2
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Your c's are what your ball joint go in. If you wheel hard or have big tires, you will bend them. Gussets reinforce thrm so they won't
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Old 05-07-2013, 04:44 PM   #3
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Aftermarket reinforcement for your axle c's (where your axles connect with your wheels), which are prone to bending with heavier tires and general offroad abuse. Apparently there have even been instances of people bending their c's with stock tires on pavement.
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Old 05-07-2013, 04:46 PM   #4
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You can see them as part of this kit here: Artec JK Front Axle ARMOR KIT or you can just get the gussets by themselves: Artec JK Knuckle Gussets

They reinforce the inner "C" on the axle housing, keeping them from bending when you abuse the Jeep.
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The axle C's are the upper and lower arms going from both ends of the front axle to the front wheels where the upper and lower ball joints are. C Gussets are pieces of metal that are welded onto the upper and lower arms of the C's, reinforcing them. It's recommended to reinforce your front axle C's prior to putting on bigger, heavier tires/wheels, or you could bend your C's giving you a negative camber that I don't think can be fixed without replacing the axle. Pictured below is the driver side of my front axle, with freshly welded on C Gussets and sleeves (also recommended prior to putting on bigger, heavier tires/wheels).

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I got ya. Thanks for the responses fellas. Do they come ready to weld in, does anything have to be removed prior to install, do they simply fit in there and you weld them up. I would imagine the dealership would frown on the welding to the axle though. I dont think the wife plans on wheeling her grocery getter.
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They are bare steel, ready to weld. You need to grind the paint off the C's. You also have to properly heat up the cast pieces to do the welding and then wrap them with a welding blanket to let them cool properly. Then you want to make sure they're painted properly to stop rust.
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My c gusset was welding on but it makes some contact with the spring, anyone else have that issue? It pushes on the spring just back a few mm
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My c gusset was welding on but it makes some contact with the spring, anyone else have that issue? It pushes on the spring just back a few mm
I just got my kit and haven't welded it on yet. I'll let you know what I find out when I get to it.
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My c gusset was welding on but it makes some contact with the spring, anyone else have that issue? It pushes on the spring just back a few mm
Anyone?
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My springs for my Rock Krawler lift were doing the same thing so we plasma cut the gusset and beat that tab down and welded the tab... but they still just barely hit the spring forcing the driver spring forward and now it makes contact with the end of my sway bar when i hit bumps. Just called Artec and they said to send a pic.. probably just take it all apart and do some grinding on the gusset.
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Here is a pic. I will get a pic if the gusset when I can
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What's the average cost to have someone weld them in? $65 for the pieces seem very reasonable to get it in. If the welding is reasonable, i just may get it done.

What other pieces should be welded in at one time? Thinking the armor for the bottom of the shocks would be good to do at the same time.
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If you are gonna do the axle sleeves, now would be the time. I put in EVO off road axle sleeves and they were welded in also. They do make other sleeves that don't need to be welded in though.
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What's the average cost to have someone weld them in? $65 for the pieces seem very reasonable to get it in. If the welding is reasonable, i just may get it done.

What other pieces should be welded in at one time? Thinking the armor for the bottom of the shocks would be good to do at the same time.
Got the artec truss, gussets and lca

3 hours of labor at 75 per hour (normally 85 but have active duty price) : 225 at hellbent performance in st louis
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Got the artec truss, gussets and lca

3 hours of labor at 75 per hour (normally 85 but have active duty price) : 225 at hellbent performance in st louis
That's a hell of a deal. I did the full Artec Truss Front armor kit myself. Pulled the front axle, can't imagine installing this armor kit with the Axle installed. Even with it out, it was about five hours of welding. You have to go slow. If you rush this, you will have wings for a front axle. Plug the E-locker, don't want to melt that, and then there's the ball joints, I have the Omni brand but at least they are metal compared to the stockers which are a plastic basket.

Glad you got taken care of being a vet/active.

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PS I love the Artec Front Truss and the rear is going on next.

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