Can 730N Nav be added later? - Jeep Wrangler Forum
Jeep Wrangler Forum

Go Back   Jeep Wrangler Forum > JK Jeep Wrangler Forum > JK General Discussion Forum

Join Wrangler Forum Today


Reply
 
Thread Tools

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on WranglerForum.com
Old 09-29-2011, 08:08 AM   #1
Jeeper
 
ShoreWrangler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Maryland's Eastern Shore
Posts: 941
Can 730N Nav be added later?

Is there any way to add the 730 navigation after-the-fact? I ordered a Sport model and you cannot get navigation as an option. I see you can buy the 730N nav system on ebay for about $1,800 which is the same cost as buying the option on a Sahara.

How hard is it to swap out the 130 for a 730? Since it's a factory unit I'm assuming it's pretty easy but not sure.

ShoreWrangler is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 09-29-2011, 08:20 AM   #2
Jeeper
 
Trunz150's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: NY, NY
Posts: 359
Should be fairly easy do you plan on doing it yourself?

Trunz150 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 09-29-2011, 08:27 AM   #3
Jeeper
 
ShoreWrangler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Maryland's Eastern Shore
Posts: 941
Quote:
Originally Posted by Trunz150 View Post
Should be fairly easy do you plan on doing it yourself?
No, cuz I'll screw it up - i hate dealing with electronics. mechanical stuff I can do fine, just not electronics.

thinking if i were to buy the unit after the fact, would it be easy for a tech to change it out? don't want to do it if they are gonna charge me like 5 hours of labor or something.
ShoreWrangler is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 09-29-2011, 08:37 AM   #4
rotaredoM

WF Supporting Member
::WF Moderator::
 
panthermark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Chicago-land
Posts: 9,585
Images: 13
How about this? Anyone try it?
Kenwood DNX6180 Multimedia DVD Receiver with Navigation & Bluetooth

KENWOOD DNX-6180 - Kenwood DNX6180 Multimedia DVD Receiver with Navigation & Bluetooth - Quadratec
panthermark is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 09-29-2011, 08:43 AM   #5
Jeeper

WF Supporting Member
 
ShaneDiddy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Alamogordo
Posts: 222
Quote:
Originally Posted by panthermark View Post
How about this? Anyone try it?
Kenwood DNX6180 Multimedia DVD Receiver with Navigation & Bluetooth

KENWOOD DNX-6180 - Kenwood DNX6180 Multimedia DVD Receiver with Navigation & Bluetooth - Quadratec
I was interested in this as well. I also ordered a Sport with the base radio with intentions of adding an aftermarket NAV like this one...Still need to do some research myself because I also got all the connectivity group and would like that all to still work correctly aswell.
ShaneDiddy is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 09-29-2011, 08:59 AM   #6
Jeeper
 
ShoreWrangler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Maryland's Eastern Shore
Posts: 941
Quote:
Originally Posted by panthermark View Post
How about this? Anyone try it?
Kenwood DNX6180 Multimedia DVD Receiver with Navigation & Bluetooth

KENWOOD DNX-6180 - Kenwood DNX6180 Multimedia DVD Receiver with Navigation & Bluetooth - Quadratec
Stupid question, and I know this sounds vain, but will it look ok in there? I mean, will they have to cut the dash, or will it stick out, or anything like that? I want it to look like it was meant for that car, not like it was squeezed in or anything. Also thinking if it doesn't look stock it may be bait for somone to break in to steal it (and by break in i mean simply using a utility knife on my soft top). I'm not against going the after-market route but these are concerns I have...
ShoreWrangler is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 09-29-2011, 09:27 AM   #7
Jeeper
 
Armadaskier's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Littlestown,Pa
Posts: 86
Images: 6
You can add the factory 730n with little complications. To remove the factory stereo takes literally 10 minutes if that and then to install the new one is just plugging in simple things and reattaching the dash. The 730n would then have to be activated by a dealership and shouldn't cost more than an hour of labor. I don't know if the one quadratec sells or pre 2012 730n stereo would work though with a 2012 with the connectivity option.
__________________
Go Navy! Beat Army!
Armadaskier is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 09-29-2011, 09:40 AM   #8
Jeeper
 
ShoreWrangler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Maryland's Eastern Shore
Posts: 941
Great, thanks. I wonder if I could find one to swap it out and activate it for 1 hour labor? Can't hurt to ask I guess...

And agree on the "Go Navy" part. I live near the Academy and used to be a season ticket holder
ShoreWrangler is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 09-29-2011, 09:50 AM   #9
Hardcore Jeeper
 
Peepers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Windsor, CT
Posts: 3,320
Ugh... $1800 for a radio... I could buy a stand alone GPS, a decent headunit, and have enough left over to regear the jeep for that much money... Holy crap...
__________________
What have we got?
We have one heavily armed Recreational Vehicle


ΣΧ
The Power Tech 6
Peepers is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 09-29-2011, 09:52 AM   #10
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Portland, Oregon
Posts: 17
I have a friend who bought the 2011 Unlimited Sport and added on a Kenwood Nav system like the one shown above. She bought it at Car Toys locally, here in Portlnad, and they installed it. Was only like $1200 total. Looks great in the dash and everything works with the Connectivity Group.
Bettyrides is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 09-29-2011, 09:53 AM   #11
Jeeper
 
Armadaskier's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Littlestown,Pa
Posts: 86
Images: 6
When I talked to my dealership they quoted me $2500 to add the navigation in my 2010 afterwards. If you can turn a screwdriver you can remove and install the new one. Save some money on that end. All of my experiences I've had with quadratec too I couldn't imagine they would sell a stero they didn't look factory. If you are worried about someone taking your stereo you can buy a lock box that slides down over the stereo and locks. Quadratec sells them too and it's simple to put in while you do the stereo install.

And too bad you don't the tickets anymore or I'd buy some haha. I am stationed at Bethesda Naval Hospital so I deal with Midshipmen all the time. Can't wait to go to my first game.
__________________
Go Navy! Beat Army!
Armadaskier is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 09-29-2011, 09:56 AM   #12
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: The D
Posts: 339
Images: 16
not sure whether that would include the Uconnect module or not, and not sure if you add the Uconnect where/how you will add in the microphone for the bluetooth phone use, good luck
SylvanSahara is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 09-29-2011, 09:58 AM   #13
Jeeper
 
jrohan07's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Alabama
Posts: 537
I posted these instructions in another post but here you go.
You can install it yourself and pay the dealer $150 to program it to your vehicle.
Attached Files
File Type: pdf remove2012dash.pdf (1.32 MB, 101 views)
jrohan07 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 09-29-2011, 10:01 AM   #14
rotaredoM

WF Supporting Member
::WF Moderator::
 
panthermark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Chicago-land
Posts: 9,585
Images: 13
panthermark is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 09-29-2011, 10:02 AM   #15
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 200
Quote:
Originally Posted by Peepers View Post
Ugh... $1800 for a radio... I could buy a stand alone GPS, a decent headunit, and have enough left over to regear the jeep for that much money... Holy crap...
It's actually better than any consumer grade GPS standalone unit.

Dead reckoning gyroscopes make all the difference...and I prefer the detailed maps of the Harman premium nav (that's the system used in the 730N) to the cartoonish simplified Garmin based stuff used in the 430N and most of the aftermarket systems. I know some people prefer the cleaner looking Garmin interface though.

The audio system interface is good, but Pioneer and Kenwood have much slicker software for sure.

The issue I have with the aftermarket nav/head unit combos is that after 1 year, you're on your own, whereas the factory unit is covered by the standard and extended warranty.

Those delicate 2.5" hard drives WILL fail in a few years time, especially with the stiff suspension of a Wrangler, plus moisture issues inherent to open top vehicles.
glowingghoul is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 09-29-2011, 10:16 AM   #16
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: The D
Posts: 339
Images: 16
not positve about this, but msrp of unit installed from factory included whatever upgraded speakers, amp and sub-woofer that come w/ the system also, if there is a difference in speakers from base to mid to premium systems??
SylvanSahara is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 09-29-2011, 10:29 AM   #17
Newb
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 6
Quote:
Originally Posted by Peepers View Post
Ugh... $1800 for a radio... I could buy a stand alone GPS, a decent headunit, and have enough left over to regear the jeep for that much money... Holy crap...
That's what I would do.

I got the 730N unit because I bought the show model off the dealer's floor (2011 JKU Sahara).

I'm not even a little bit impressed with it (and wouldn't have wanted it if I'd been ordering a vehicle).

I actually use Google Maps on my Droid as my GPS rather than the 730N. It's a heck of a lot easier to use since it's got voice recognition, the graphics are better, and the routing is more "logical".

The only upside I can see to the 730N is that it mutes the radio when it's telling you that you've got to turn and it's got the Sirius traffic thing, but I don't even love that because it seems like I actually have to be sitting in traffic before it gets around to deciding it's going to reroute me. The rerouting might be useful on a long trip but to avoid traffic on a daily commute it's a waste.

Also don't love the single CD "functionality".

I think the 730N also has integrated iPod contorls so if you use an iPod that might be a plus for you (I just listen to talk radio so I haven't even bothered looking into how the iPod thing works).

For straight navigation, if that's your primary purpose for the 730N, pick up a Garmin Nuvi 2460LMT and save yourself $1500. Bonus is that it's got an onboard mic with a bluetooth connection so you can use it for hands-free phone calls, something I don't think you get with the 730N unless you also buy a Connectivity Group.
soot is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 09-29-2011, 10:34 AM   #18
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 200
You find the Android nav to be better than the 730N? I have an HTC EVO 4G, and it's nav is handy when you're walking around, but oh man...it can't hold a candle to Harman nav when you're on the road.
glowingghoul is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 09-29-2011, 10:41 AM   #19
Newb
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 6
Quote:
Originally Posted by glowingghoul View Post
You find the Android nav to be better than the 730N? I have an HTC EVO 4G, and it's nav is handy when you're walking around, but oh man...it can't hold a candle to Harman nav when you're on the road.
Hmmmm...

Yeah, I think the Droid works really well.

I like being able to drive along, pick up the phone and say "Navigate to... McDonalds", and the GPS takes me to the nearest Mcdonalds (or whatever).

The alternative, with the 730N, is having to pull over, scroll through three layers of "points of interest", and then maybe find a local Mcdonalds.

I've never had any trouble with the routing or being able to get where I need to go.

Different strokes I guess, but I used the 730N nav two or three times right after I got the Jeep and haven't bothered with it since.

ETA: I've never used the Droid or 730N for serious offroad navigation (and don't even know if either unit would support it) but a.) I'm in northern NJ so there really isn't a lot of serious offroading to be done, b.) I don't have a lot of time on my hands so I haven't been able to get down to the pines yet to check things out down there, and c.) I'm driving an almost new stock JKU Sahara with leather seats so it's not like I'm ever going to do a lot of SERIOUS wheeling .
soot is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 09-29-2011, 01:31 PM   #20
Jeeper
 
ShoreWrangler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Maryland's Eastern Shore
Posts: 941
Quote:
Originally Posted by SylvanSahara View Post
not positve about this, but msrp of unit installed from factory included whatever upgraded speakers, amp and sub-woofer that come w/ the system also, if there is a difference in speakers from base to mid to premium systems??
If you get the Sahara, Rubicon, they already come with the upgraded speakers and amp. If you get the "Infinity" package with the Sport (which I did) you get the same upgrades.

So at that point the only difference is the head unit
ShoreWrangler is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 09-29-2011, 01:33 PM   #21
Jeeper
 
ShoreWrangler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Maryland's Eastern Shore
Posts: 941
Quote:
Originally Posted by Armadaskier View Post
When I talked to my dealership they quoted me $2500 to add the navigation in my 2010 afterwards. If you can turn a screwdriver you can remove and install the new one. Save some money on that end. All of my experiences I've had with quadratec too I couldn't imagine they would sell a stero they didn't look factory. If you are worried about someone taking your stereo you can buy a lock box that slides down over the stereo and locks. Quadratec sells them too and it's simple to put in while you do the stereo install.

And too bad you don't the tickets anymore or I'd buy some haha. I am stationed at Bethesda Naval Hospital so I deal with Midshipmen all the time. Can't wait to go to my first game.
They told me like $3,000 while shaking their heads to have one installed at the dealership.

Yeah I had lots of great times catching Navy games in Annapolis. I would definitely recommend going if you have never been. There's no other experience like it in College sports. The march-on of the brigade and fly-overs bring tears to your eyes. It is really special
ShoreWrangler is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 10-05-2011, 01:34 PM   #22
Jeeper
 
ShoreWrangler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Maryland's Eastern Shore
Posts: 941
I heard back from the dealer today and he said the Parts Dept told him they cannot add the 730N to a Sport. Something about the wiring harness being different? Can anyone verify whether this is true?
ShoreWrangler is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 10-05-2011, 01:38 PM   #23
Jeeper
 
Armadaskier's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Littlestown,Pa
Posts: 86
Images: 6
I don't know about 2012 but in the 2010 I was never told that for my sport JKU.
__________________
Go Navy! Beat Army!
Armadaskier is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 10-05-2011, 03:10 PM   #24
Jeeper
 
ArmyW4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Orange County, California
Posts: 41
Quote:
Originally Posted by ShoreWrangler View Post
Great, thanks. I wonder if I could find one to swap it out and activate it for 1 hour labor? Can't hurt to ask I guess...

And agree on the "Go Navy" part. I live near the Academy and used to be a season ticket holder

Just to be different...........GO ARMY! BEAT NAVY!
ArmyW4 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 10-05-2011, 03:14 PM   #25
Jeeper
 
ShoreWrangler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Maryland's Eastern Shore
Posts: 941
Quote:
Originally Posted by ArmyW4 View Post
Just to be different...........GO ARMY! BEAT NAVY!
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
ShoreWrangler is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 10-05-2011, 04:56 PM   #26
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 16
Good information, here.

I've been looking at adding a 430N ... but am wondering if a 430N from a Dodge Caravan is exactly the same system as a 430N from a JK? I think I've found one, but want to be sure that the "minivan" 430N will just plug & play (with activation at the dealer).

Thanks in advance.

platbr is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Jeep Wrangler Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
730N Media Center Navigation Freezing LBrito JK General Discussion Forum 13 11-25-2013 03:56 PM
430n or 730n? sdgmcdon Communications and Electronics 1 10-25-2011 10:17 PM
A couple more things I added to the jeep JeepinDave TJ General Discussion Forum 6 09-15-2011 03:54 PM
730n + connectivity group or not ? frankski JK General Discussion Forum 4 09-12-2011 02:31 PM
Audio Question -- difference between the 430N and 730N? Husker4theSpurs JK General Discussion Forum 1 05-08-2011 09:30 PM



» Network Links
»Jeep Parts
» Featured Product

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:44 PM.



Jeep®, Wrangler, Liberty, Wagoneer, Cherokee, and Grand Cherokee are copyrighted and trademarked to Chrysler Motors LLC.
Wranglerforum.com is not in any way associated with the Chrysler Motors LLC