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Old 03-29-2013, 09:57 AM   #31
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Some good points here, I will also comment that mud grapplers howl like b-52s bombers going at highway speeds. I don't mind a loud tire myself, but others dislike it. If you are concern about snow traction, look at a tire such as the duratrac, they are built for snowy conditions and can be studded if necessary. However, they only go up to a 20" rim I believe. That said, you can get stuck with any wheel combo, its driving skill that will prevent it. Good luck on your decisions

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Old 03-29-2013, 11:36 AM   #35
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When I initially read the original post I thought "Why? 22's will look ridiculous." After doing some research it really isn't a bad look. Not my thing, but not as bad as I imagined.

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Old 03-29-2013, 01:55 PM   #36
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When I initially read the original post I thought "Why? 22's will look ridiculous." After doing some research it really isn't a bad look. Not my thing, but not as bad as I imagined.

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I guess its OK if you like that sort of rig. Did I see the spare was on the OEM carrier?? If so, I give it a week before it falls off....
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Old 03-29-2013, 09:11 PM   #37
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Someone needs to do some research

OP I'm begging you, please read through this forum in its entirety before making that kind of decision. Your making all these plans and it sounds like a. You've never owned a jeep before b. you have no idea what 37" tires means for the test of the vehicle and c. You know you want a jeep right? And not a hummer?
I own a 98 jeep but it's in brazil, he'll no I hate hummers
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Old 03-29-2013, 09:21 PM   #38
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My pure guess is that a Jeep set up to run 37s, even on 22's would not get stuck in Chicago. How often is it that 2wd cars get stuck? Rare. Common 4wd... likely never... If you are concerned, don't drive the once every 5 years that there is that gnarly of a storm...
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Old 03-29-2013, 10:05 PM   #39
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OP your question should have been does mud grapplers work well in the snow , your wheel size has nothing to do with it in snow in the city

But since you put wheel size nobody is paying attention to your question , they just want to make fun about the wheel size
Thank you so much ! I'm also putting a 4" sky jack lift
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Old 03-29-2013, 10:09 PM   #40
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You can't just throw 37" tires on a JK without doing modifications to the suspension and/or fenders, regardless of wheel size.

35" is typically the largest tire that jeepers will use unless it is on a seriously modded dedicated off road rig.
4" sky jack lift will cost me $2,000
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When I initially read the original post I thought "Why? 22's will look ridiculous." After doing some research it really isn't a bad look. Not my thing, but not as bad as I imagined.

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I don't know if you'll get stuck, but if you do, you'll look damn good with 22's wrapped in 37's!
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I don't know if you'll get stuck, but if you do, you'll look damn good with 22's wrapped in 37's!
Ah.... no. It would actually be hilarious to see someone rocking 22s in a jeep stuck on pavement....
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I guess its OK if you like that sort of rig. Did I see the spare was on the OEM carrier?? If so, I give it a week before it falls off....
Patrick Willis' Jeep looks badass! How can someone not like that? Wanna hate on the 22's in 37's, fine. Patrick will slap on his 17's in 37's just to get out of "mall crawler" status.
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I feel like this thread turned into a public housing dwellers thread on the sight of 22" rims
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Eh, to be honest, if I could afford 22 inch wheels and 37 inch tires I'd be driving a pre-owned Ferrari 355...or, at least a last gen BMW M3 w/V8 (more or less the same car in many respects). I'm not kidding, either. Say you buy a stock Sahara with some options - call it 35k. Lets add 2500 dollar wheels, 3000 dollar tires and now were at 40.5k. Let us assume you elect to do a proper 4" lift: springs, shocks, control arms, track bars, links, etc. Let us further assume you will not be installing it yourself - call it and even 3 grand for parts and the cheapest labor even - 3500 total. 44k now, getting there. New gears, 1k. Sleeve and Gusset w/ truss - call it 1k with labor including the gears at the same time. 46k. Lets add another grand in for new drive shafts and assume they get rolled in with the cost of gears and axle work. 47k. Now, I could nickel and dime every little exhaust spacer, brake line addition and what not you're going to need, but understand that what you are fixin' to do is not going to be inexpensive - and, in your case, it surely won't be practical.

So, what it all comes down to when we're said and done is you'll have spent tens of thousands of dollars more than a Sport model Wrangler that will be every bit as capable in the snow once you spend an additional 1.5-2k on new wheels and, say, 33" GY Duratracs - all for less than 30k total. You've got to really, really love the looks to spend that additional 15 or so thousand dollars for a considerably less practical vehicle.

That is the reason people are focused on the size of the wheel and tire combination. It degrades the performance of the whole system for your intended use. As to mud tires being a good choice - they may be so If and Only If the snow is deep enough that you need to either float effectively and let the tread paddle (in which case the tire brand you want is Interco, specifically the TSL Bogger) or dig and maintain momentum. With a set of 37s, realistically you're talking about snow that needs to be more than 18 inches deep before you see any real benefit versus small tires.

Moreover, on the topic of weight, quickly accelerating the tire can be essential to self cleaning and traction. Not just adding more weight, but moving the rotational inertia further from the center/axle magnifies the affect of the weight. Your entire drive line needs to work much harder, even with new gears. Just something to keep in mind.

ETA: I was recently in lovely Pittsburgh when they got a big dump of snow and I needed to get on home. Lots of wrecks, immobilized cars and snow sitting on the road. My stock mud terrains worked just fine because the snow was loose enough that they could dig in and bite. It's when the snow packs hard or gets icy that your mud terrains struggle - everyone says that, but my personal experience mirrors it as well.
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Big rims are played out, sorry. If you do it, do it right and rock spinners. That way you can chop up the trails as you go.
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All OP needs for his situation is to throw on some 33" Duratracs on either OEM wheels (w/spacers) or some 16 or 17" aftermarket alloys.
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ETA: I was recently in lovely Pittsburgh when they got a big dump of snow and I needed to get on home. Lots of wrecks, immobilized cars and snow sitting on the road. My stock mud terrains worked just fine because the snow was loose enough that they could dig in and bite. It's when the snow packs hard or gets icy that your mud terrains struggle - everyone says that, but my personal experience mirrors it as well.
^^ This right here. You can get anything stuck if you try hard enough (just ask me haha). MT's are fine in some snow. It depends on the type of tire and type of snow you're dealing with. With Chicago, where the snow generally is pretty wet and shitty and then gets icy the next day, I'd think you'd be better off rated for something with ice like the Duratrac. Where I live, it's cold and snowy and dry; the stock MT's are fine for the most part.

By the way OP, I'd rethink those 37" tires. There's a pretty big mechanical and financial commitment in getting a Wrangler to run 37's. Stick to 35's or under for cost effectiveness.

And, just my .02, but I'd rethink the 22's as well. It's a Jeep, man.
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Slightly different approach....I live about 2 hours from CHI town.....and my old TJ stock has never been stuck in the snow,,,it is no longer STOCK!!

My wife has a '12 JK on STOCK wheels and tires...and she has never been stuck here in the Fort we have taken it to MI just to "Play in the SNOW" and never got it stuck!!!

All that being said anything is possible it depends on the Driver and their level of skill!!
Having a jeep that has never been stuck in a given situation means you have never pushed the limits far enough to find out what they are. Anything can get stuck no matter what it is.
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What's wrong with 37 mud grapplers and why wouldn't it be a good setup

Or are you saying that based on the wheel and not the tire and who cares what wheels he is going to use
On tarmac (with compacted snow and ice) mud terrains tires act like slicks. The space between the knubs fills with snow, evens out with the knubs and becomes a slick. Mud terrains on the road are an excellent way to have an accident. Now, you can have your MT's siped, but from reading a lot of opinions, the knubs on MT tires lose strength when siped and fall apart. MTs use use a harder compound than AT (generally speaking) and don't like to bend as much as an AT when siped. Like said earlier, you need to do A LOT of research and learning before you make this kind of decisions. With 22" wheels, you are going to spend a fortune on tires, not to mention, a member of the Kanye West posse.

Finally, is there even a place of offroad near Chicago? You'd look pretty ridiculous with 37" tires and the only thing you are hitting are potholes.
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Patrick Willis' Jeep looks badass! How can someone not like that? Wanna hate on the 22's in 37's, fine. Patrick will slap on his 17's in 37's just to get out of "mall crawler" status.
Looks like crap warmed up.
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Patrick Willis' Jeep looks badass! How can someone not like that? Wanna hate on the 22's in 37's, fine. Patrick will slap on his 17's in 37's just to get out of "mall crawler" status.
Sooo ar you implying that that thing is going to be wheeled? Did you even notice how close the front tires are to the bumpers? There is no way they could be tucked much at all and still be able to turn the wheel without them geting hung in the bumper.

And guess what some folks dont like the big black rim look. The fact that you do dose not mean everyone else has to
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Sooo ar you implying that that thing is going to be wheeled? Did you even notice how close the front tires are to the bumpers? There is no way they could be tucked much at all and still be able to turn the wheel without them geting hung in the bumper.

And guess what some folks dont like the big black rim look. The fact that you do dose not mean everyone else has to
I also doubt they trimmed the pinch seams, so as soon as he rolls over a soda can he is going to shred those tires.
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Hi everyone! I was wondering if a Sahara Jk would get stuck using 22" xd monster wheels wrapped in 37"nitto mud grapplers, I live in Chicago so in the winter it kinda snows alot. Please if you had experience can you please let me know? Thank you for your time.
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