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Old 03-22-2012, 08:43 AM   #31
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x2 on the rumor?

Or x2 on 4fit's "dumbass" status?

Or both?
#2 but both will work

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lol. It's ok. I am a dumbass. My wife has confirmed it numerous times.
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Here's how I see it. If 4fit is wrong, OP has to wait a few extra days to run his 35's.

If you're wrong, OP might f*** up his Jeep.

Seems like a no-brainer.
You are right. I know nothing. That pic I posted is photo shop.
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lol. It's ok. I am a dumbass.
Name-calling ... I can see this thread getting shut down

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Old 03-27-2012, 07:23 AM   #37
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I put thirty fives on my 08 rubicon fourdoor and a three inch lift, with stock wheels and one and a half inch spacers. There is no way the tires would have fit on the front and been able to turn. That white jeep on the first page has two eighty fives at best on it, no way those are thirty fives.
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Old 03-27-2012, 07:24 AM   #38
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My 11 with no lift and 35's. Itl be fine.
This is not thirty fives.
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Old 03-27-2012, 07:43 AM   #40
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Not only would I avoid putting 35's on a Jeep with no lift, I would avoid putting 12.5" wide tires on 9" wheels. I know that technically they will fit because I've done it before, but they squeeze on there so bad that way too much meat hangs over and they look like they are going to pop at any second. I would stick to at least 10" wide wheels because not only will the tires sit better, but they look a whole lot better as well.
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Old 03-27-2012, 08:11 AM   #41
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Not only would I avoid putting 35's on a Jeep with no lift, I would avoid putting 12.5" wide tires on 9" wheels. I know that technically they will fit because I've done it before, but they squeeze on there so bad that way too much meat hangs over and they look like they are going to pop at any second. I would stick to at least 10" wide wheels because not only will the tires sit better, but they look a whole lot better as well.
Are you serious? I have run 12.5" wide tires on 7" rims (let alone 9"), for thousands and thousands and thousands of on and off road miles.

If anything, it helps keep the bead on when aired down. Only negative effect is that you might get more tire wear in the middle of the tread.
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Are you serious? I have run 12.5" wide tires on 7" rims (let alone 9"), for thousands and thousands and thousands of on and off road miles.

If anything, it helps keep the bead on when aired down. Only negative effect is that you might get more tire wear in the middle of the tread.
^ x2.

Most 35"x12.5" tires are designed to go on rims from 8" to 11" wide. 17"x9" rim with 35"x12.5"s is a perfect off-road combo IMO.

As to all this debate on whether 35s can go on with no suspension work: even if can, why would you do so, especially only for a week while waiting for a lift?

I have a four-inch lift with 35s, and I'm still getting my inch weld cut ASAP (been delaying because work has me buried). And the OP or anyone else taking advice to put 35s on with no loft might hit a bump or crevice at just the wrong angle/speed and cut their new tires even if someone else didn't do that yet.

Saying that "running 35s works for me" is like saying "driving without a seatbelt" works for me or like driving with a frayed drive belt or a tire with gash most of the way through the sidewall "works for me."

It does ... until it doesn't.
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This is not thirty fives.
Agreed.
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thanks for all the advice...

Wheels and tires will be here Friday:
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I'm going to mount them drive them about 15 miles to where the garage is to put the lift on.

I think they will survive.

No air dam, stubby front and 4.1 bs.
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thanks for all the advice...

Wheels and tires will be here Friday:
Those look great! Bet they are heavy as hell tho. Can't wait to see the installed and lifted pics.
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^^^ This.

Patience, grasshopper. Why run the risk? You'll still have almost 9 months to enjoy your lifted, big-ass wheeled Jeep before the world ends on Dec 21.
Something I saw recently, because of our invention of Leap Year, the Mayan Date of Dec 21, 2012 has already happened.
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Old 03-27-2012, 11:31 AM   #48
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Those look great! Bet they are heavy as hell tho. Can't wait to see the installed and lifted pics.
Thanks! I can't wait!

Yes very heavy about 108 per wheel.
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So if I can fit 33" tires now on my sport, not if, when I get my 19/59 springs they will add almost 2", also if I add the leveling kit 2" front and 1" rear would I be able 2 fit 35"? Post-springs and leveling kit it would total 4" front and 3" rear, would 35x12.5 now fit?? Saying my backspacing obviously would be correct
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So if I can fit 33" tires now on my sport, not if, when I get my 19/59 springs they will add almost 2", also if I add the leveling kit 2" front and 1" rear would I be able 2 fit 35"? Post-springs and leveling kit it would total 4" front and 3" rear, would 35x12.5 now fit?? Saying my backspacing obviously would be correct
Most likely, yes. But if you truly get 4" of lift up front. You are going to have a few more items to address, such as driveshafts, control arms, trackbar, etc.

Just MSRP an eye out for rics1997 to post before too long. He already has 19/60 springs and is getting a leveling kit installed very soon. Be will be running 33" DTs I believe, but seeing his rig might give you an indication on if 35s would clear or not.

Then again, you could always do flat fenders and extended bumpstops to make it work.
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Most likely, yes. But if you truly get 4" of lift up front. You are going to have a few more items to address, such as driveshafts, control arms, trackbar, etc.

Just MSRP an eye out for rics1997 to post before too long. He already has 19/60 springs and is getting a leveling kit installed very soon. Be will be running 33" DTs I believe, but seeing his rig might give you an indication on if 35s would clear or not.

Then again, you could always do flat fenders and extended bumpstops to make it work.
Okay I'll check that out, but another question is the 19/60 springs are stock on some jeeps and some people added leveling kits with these stock springs. When they added the level kit did they need to change other things like drive shaft etc.? Or do these jeeps already have extended parts?
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Okay I'll check that out, but another question is the 19/60 springs are stock on some jeeps and some people added leveling kits with these stock springs. When they added the level kit did they need to change other things like drive shaft etc.? Or do these jeeps already have extended parts?
leveling kit doesn't require any other modifications from what I've read.
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thanks for all the advice...

Wheels and tires will be here Friday:
those look badass by the way...waiting for final pics
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Okay I'll check that out, but another question is the 19/60 springs are stock on some jeeps and some people added leveling kits with these stock springs. When they added the level kit did they need to change other things like drive shaft etc.? Or do these jeeps already have extended parts?
You bring up a good point. Teraflex says that their leveling kit will clear up to 34" tires. Not sure which spring numbers they are basing that on. I'll let someone who has done the stock spring swap (ric, tom, etc) give more info on that. I will admit that I have never looked into it too far.

But, no, those Jeeps would not already have extended parts. I may have stuck my foot in my mouth a bit there. lol
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leveling kit doesn't require any other modifications from what I've read.
Even after going to 19/60 springs?
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leveling kit doesn't require any other modifications from what I've read.
This is true. And I am now thinking that no additional parts would be needed with the 19/60 swap plus the leveling kit. But I am now also thinking that 35s would still be a tight fit even with both. Damn it! I knew I should have had that second cup of coffee this morning.

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Even after going to 19/60 springs?
Like you said, since some Jeeps already come with the 19/60 springs, then I am thinking no additional parts would be required. Then again, I appear to be a bundle of misinformation this morning, so I think I'm just gonna shut up. lol
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This is true. And I am now thinking that no additional parts would be needed with the 19/60 swap plus the leveling kit. But I am now also thinking that 35s would still be a tight fit even with both. Damn it! I knew I should have had that second cup of coffee this morning.

Like you said, since some Jeeps already come with the 19/60 springs, then I am thinking no additional parts would be required. Then again, I appear to be a bundle of misinformation this morning, so I think I'm just gonna shut up. lol
Lol okay so we need to find out which springs the leveling kit is working with to fit 34" and still if 35" will fit with both springs and leveling kit right?
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Yes pics tomorrow for 19/60 coils w/leveling kit on 33X12.5X15 on MB Chaos 5 wheels. Heard something out side and thought it was the tires. darn, only trash truck
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Lol okay so we need to find out which springs the leveling kit is working with to fit 34" and still if 35" will fit with both springs and leveling kit right?
I can tell you that I would have clearance for 34s without a problem on road. I have 17/58 springs with the TF leveling kit and 33s. However, offroad I'm betting I would get into the fenders a bit with a 34" tire. Another thing to find out from Teraflex is if they are considering a tire that specs out to 34", or are they considering a tire that actually measures damn close to 34" once mounted, like the 315/70/17 Duratrac.
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Even after going to 19/60 springs?

Been talking to off road shop about if needing anything else. Other then recommending new shocks they say, maybe cam bolts but shouldn't need anything else. Getting Fox Shocks

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