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Old 06-25-2014, 10:02 PM   #1
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Car wash with bestop supertop twill

Hey Everyone,

This is my first jeep so go easy

I put my bestop twill supertop on my jeep and have a question about washing it. I am going to assume washing it by hand in your driveway is the preferred method, but I am in an apartment complex with no access to a hose. So what is the next best thing?

I have two options:

1. Automatic "brushless" carwash
2. "Quarter" wash with pressure hose and different washing stages

Thanks guys

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Old 06-26-2014, 06:50 AM   #2
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Either one will do...not going to hurt the top at all. I use the self serve with the big wand brush. Never had a problem. Just be careful with the brush on the plastic windows: don't want to scratch them up if you can avoid it. Lots of soap for lube will do....

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Old 06-26-2014, 09:23 AM   #3
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I think I'm going to try the self service one bc I can control how much water pressure I throw at the thing. Should I be weary of putting soap on it or should I be fine with just a regular soak, soap, brush, and rinse on it?
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If you're going to use the brushes at self serve wash, make sure they are clean! Those places get abused a lot, and you may find the brush is full of crap that'll scratch your finish.
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I think I'm going to try the self service one bc I can control how much water pressure I throw at the thing. Should I be weary of putting soap on it or should I be fine with just a regular soak, soap, brush, and rinse on it?
I'll probably get flamed for this, but I use soft top products on my top. I'd be worried about what their soap might have in it or leave behind. Yes, their soaps are safe for automobiles, but this is a twill fabric we're talking about. Fabrics have different care requirements than paint. You wouldn't wash a $1500 twill jacket with car wash soap, right?

This is what I use:

Amazon.com: 303 Products 30520 Convertible Fabric Top Cleaning and Care Kit: Automotive

Maybe I'm just drinking the soft top koolaid, but I'd rather spend the money and use products designed for what I'm doing rather than taking the chance that two years from now my top looks faded or dull from using products on it that are too harsh.

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Old 06-26-2014, 11:09 AM   #6
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I'll probably get flamed for this, but I use soft top products on my top. I'd be worried about what their soap might have in it or leave behind. Yes, their soaps are safe for automobiles, but this is a twill fabric we're talking about. Fabrics have different care requirements than paint. You wouldn't wash a $1500 twill jacket with car wash soap, right? This is what I use: Amazon.com: 303 Products 30520 Convertible Fabric Top Cleaning and Care Kit: Automotive Maybe I'm just drinking the soft top koolaid, but I'd rather spend the money and use products designed for what I'm doing rather than taking the chance that two years from now my top looks faded or dull from using products on it that are too harsh. Just my .02 cents...
I have to agree with you, thanks star. I ended up just lightly pressure washing the soft top bc I didn't like the idea of putting some cheap soap on it. I have the bestop twill protectant. I'm going to buy some of that 303 cleaner and have the peace of mind. Thanks
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I was told not to go through a brushless car wash or putting soap on the top due to the possibilty of prematurely drying out the fabric. I hit the top with just water and don't use any soap.
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I have searched for this answer also. I eventually talked to a guy who owns a touchless carwash. He recommended to ONLY use the do it your self car wash with the wand and brush. He said in a touchless car wash a caustic solution is added to get the vehicle clean because of the touchless operation. This caustic solution is not harmful to paint because of the clear coat used when painting the vehicle, and it is added in a light dosage. How ever this caustic solution would act like a acid to the softop and over time eat it up.
I have the bestop twill softop on my JK and Hand wash it in the summer in my own driveway, In the winter I used the do it your self wash with the wand and brush. Just be sure to rinse the top very well after using soap on it to get all the soap out of the fabric. I also use the 303 products that bestop recommend in the instructions for maintaining the top.
Hope this sheds some light on whether they are thinking of using an automatic car wash or not.
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I have searched for this answer also. I eventually talked to a guy who owns a touchless carwash. He recommended to ONLY use the do it your self car wash with the wand and brush. He said in a touchless car wash a caustic solution is added to get the vehicle clean because of the touchless operation. This caustic solution is not harmful to paint because of the clear coat used when painting the vehicle, and it is added in a light dosage. How ever this caustic solution would act like a acid to the softop and over time eat it up.
I have the bestop twill softop on my JK and Hand wash it in the summer in my own driveway, In the winter I used the do it your self wash with the wand and brush. Just be sure to rinse the top very well after using soap on it to get all the soap out of the fabric. I also use the 303 products that bestop recommend in the instructions for maintaining the top.
Hope this sheds some light on whether they are thinking of using an automatic car wash or not.
I don't know who you talked to, but unless the jeep soft top material is radically different from convertible tops or he's using some sort of chemicals that aren't normal he's wrong. Car wash chemical manufacturers go through great lengths to make sure their products do not harm vehicles including convertibles.

Millions of convertibles are washed every year. All it would take is one provable case of a car wash damaging a top to kill the profits from a thousand washes. Every wash would have a sign out front warning people with convertibles, etc.. OR they would all go out of business.

Do as you wish, but do some research before believing third party information online (including mine).
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I contacted Besttop and 303 is what they recommend for premium twill fabric.

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I'll probably get flamed for this, but I use soft top products on my top. I'd be worried about what their soap might have in it or leave behind. Yes, their soaps are safe for automobiles, but this is a twill fabric we're talking about. Fabrics have different care requirements than paint. You wouldn't wash a $1500 twill jacket with car wash soap, right?

This is what I use:

Amazon.com: 303 Products 30520 Convertible Fabric Top Cleaning and Care Kit: Automotive

Maybe I'm just drinking the soft top koolaid, but I'd rather spend the money and use products designed for what I'm doing rather than taking the chance that two years from now my top looks faded or dull from using products on it that are too harsh.

Just my .02 cents...
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I use the 303 products also. Great stuff!
Hmmm seems to me I did do research by taking to an actual owner of a car wash. Who would know better about the product then the owner? Santa Claus ?
Touch less car washes use harsher chemicals because NOTHING touches the car. So higher pressure is used and harsher chemicals. And every carwash I have been to has warnings posted, not only just for convertibles but for all vehicles.
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I've run my premium soft top through the car wash. I've washed it with regular car wash soap. I've used a pressure washer on it. I have not had any issues as a result of any of these actions. I have not noticed any difference in the soft top in the year and a half that I've owned it and taken care of it in this manner.

I could be an anomaly, but I tend to think that the premium soft top is a little more durable than a standard twill jacket.
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I contacted Besttop and 303 is what they recommend for premium twill fabric.
X2 on the 303 for the long run
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I've run my premium soft top through the car wash. I've washed it with regular car wash soap. I've used a pressure washer on it. I have not had any issues as a result of any of these actions. I have not noticed any difference in the soft top in the year and a half that I've owned it and taken care of it in this manner.

I could be an anomaly, but I tend to think that the premium soft top is a little more durable than a standard twill jacket.
I am sure what your doing if fine, and your not gona see it ruin the top if at all very quickly. All I am saying automatic car washes whether a touch less or one with spinning brushes are not recommended. But people still use them. Summer time I wash mine by hand using car wash soap in my driveway. During the winter I can not do it outside like I do in the summer cause I live in North Dakota. I take it to a do it yourself car wash and I also use a pressure washer on it plus the long handled brush the car wash provides, I then rinse it very good so no soap remains. This is what I have to do being I live in a very cold place for part of the year. During the summer months I do use 303 products to help protect it and that should help those cold winters and the car washes I put it through. If I was in a hurry I probably would use a touch less wash but NEVER one with the spinning brushes... those would raise hect with the plastic windows in the soft top.
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I am sure what your doing if fine, and your not gona see it ruin the top if at all very quickly. All I am saying automatic car washes whether a touch less or one with spinning brushes are not recommended. But people still use them. Summer time I wash mine by hand using car wash soap in my driveway. During the winter I can not do it outside like I do in the summer cause I live in North Dakota. I take it to a do it yourself car wash and I also use a pressure washer on it plus the long handled brush the car wash provides, I then rinse it very good so no soap remains. This is what I have to do being I live in a very cold place for part of the year. During the summer months I do use 303 products to help protect it and that should help those cold winters and the car washes I put it through. If I was in a hurry I probably would use a touch less wash but NEVER one with the spinning brushes... those would raise hect with the plastic windows in the soft top.
Maybe. This isn't my first soft top Jeep. I wash it by hand when I can, but you won't catch me washing by hand even at a self service car wash in winter. The road salt is going to do worse to my Jeep than the car wash has. In fact, I've scuffed my windows enough without considering a car wash for me to be concerned. They're plastic. I'm not expecting them to be perfect. The canvas like top isn't going to suffer.

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