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Old 04-06-2013, 09:56 PM   #1
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cargo trailers anyone (not pop-up, camping)

(edit, should be a question mark in the subject line, lol)

I searched here and elsewhere. Lots of cool stuff, but.....

It seems most Jeep trailers discussed are the nice (expensive) pop up camping / expedition trailers or just the bare bones, big box, around the house trailers.

There's got to be a product in the sweet spot that is:

- lightweight (for the JK and to keep the cost down)
- somewhat off road capable (like rutted fire road capable)
- designed for cargo, so it can be used "around the house"

The only one I found that looks to fit the cargo bill quite well is probably expensive, on the expedition-grade side, and appears a tad heavy (aimed at JKU people).

It's at XVENTURE Off Road Trailer

Are there any others out there you folks would suggest?

(I don't have the time or talent or space or tools to build or restore one, like the M100 projects I've seen. Many of them are very cool though)

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Funny....I was just compiling a list of trailer companies I am interested in. We will be buying an expedition trailer for this Summer.

In order of my faves:

1. Manley ORV
2. Schutt
3. CVT's "Pioneer"
4. Adventure Trailers
5. Tentrax
6. Dinoot
7. Mopar
8. Budget Trailers

Leaning toward the Manley Explore model.
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I have a trailer I bought from Off-Road International.

Trailers

The attached pic is before I put the spare on and when you buy from them you need to supply your own tires & wheels. The trailer cost me $2600 in 2011. While their website is pure crap, their trailers are very well made.

Once I finish repainting mine to match my new Rubicon, I'll post another picture.
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Funny....I was just compiling a list of trailer companies I am interested in. We will be buying an expedition trailer for this Summer.

In order of my faves:

1. Manley ORV
2. Schutt
3. CVT's "Pioneer"
4. Adventure Trailers
5. Tentrax
6. Dinoot
7. Mopar
8. Budget Trailers

Leaning toward the Manley Explore model.
Thanks for the most extensive trailer list I've seen.
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I like my Little Giant trailer from Let's Go Aero. It works pretty well offroad - large tires and good ground clearance.
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Edit: I see you wanted an off road trailer. I'll leave these links up for those who may be interested but a mod can remove if needed.

If you are a DIY guy, the following two threads may help you out. Thread number two is from post number 7 in thread number 1.

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Thanks Everyone!

You guys do have some awesome set ups.

It'll take me a while to go through the links.



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Funny....I was just compiling a list of trailer companies I am interested in. We will be buying an expedition trailer for this Summer.

In order of my faves:

1. Manley ORV
2. Schutt
3. CVT's "Pioneer"
4. Adventure Trailers
5. Tentrax
6. Dinoot
7. Mopar
8. Budget Trailers

Leaning toward the Manley Explore model.
Excellent. That's what we need. Thanks for sharing!
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Try to find an Army surplus M-100 or M-416. They were built for Jeeps, only weigh about 500-lbs., and are off-road capable. There is also a Canadian version called an M-101, but do not confuse that with an American M-101. The American version weighs 1,500-lbs., too heavy to be practical behind a jeep. The only drawback to the military versions is they do not have a tailgate, but a lot of the time someone has modified them and added one. There are also civilian versions, like a Bantam TC-3, those come with tailgates.
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I have to say I have really been looking at the m101a2 or a3 trailers I know they are heavy coming in at 1350 lbs but from what I have read they can be taken down to 1000 lbs pretty easy. I think that is not too bad for about $300 and I don't think you could ask for a more stout base for an off road cargo trailer. now I just need to find a surplus auction close enough to get one!
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I have to say I have really been looking at the m101a2 or a3 trailers I know they are heavy coming in at 1350 lbs but from what I have read they can be taken down to 1000 lbs pretty easy. I think that is not too bad for about $300 and I don't think you could ask for a more stout base for an off road cargo trailer. now I just need to find a surplus auction close enough to get one!

How can you get the weight down that low?
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How can you get the weight down that low?
Hey Scipio haven't seen you in a while, Get your Jeep yet?

good question! from what I have seen people remove the axle and replace it with a 3500lb rated axle to match the jeep bolt pattern. remove the pintle hitch and surge brakes and replace them with electric brakes and a ball hitch or a multi-axis hitch, and when people build them to be towed by jeeps they tend to ditch the 37's with steel beadlockers and put 33's or 35's depending on the tow rig set up. that has easily got a couple of hundred pounds. the people that get it under 1000 remove some of the excess bracing apparently these things are pretty serious and in stock trim can handle 4k pounds.

here is a pretty good example

M101A3 3/4-ton military utility/camping trailer - Great Lakes 4x4. The largest offroad forum in the Midwest

there are also a ton of great builds of these on expedition portal and steel soldiers
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Here is another brand, I do not have any experience with them.

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Hey Scipio haven't seen you in a while, Get your Jeep yet?

good question! from what I have seen people remove the axle and replace it with a 3500lb rated axle to match the jeep bolt pattern. remove the pintle hitch and surge brakes and replace them with electric brakes and a ball hitch or a multi-axis hitch, and when people build them to be towed by jeeps they tend to ditch the 37's with steel beadlockers and put 33's or 35's depending on the tow rig set up. that has easily got a couple of hundred pounds. the people that get it under 1000 remove some of the excess bracing apparently these things are pretty serious and in stock trim can handle 4k pounds.

here is a pretty good example

M101A3 3/4-ton military utility/camping trailer - Great Lakes 4x4. The largest offroad forum in the Midwest

there are also a ton of great builds of these on expedition portal and steel soldiers
No, not yet. Still trying to win the $500 bonus cash lottery (had one, expired 1/31). My solid order date is April 18 if I don't have one yet.

How's the Crush?

Thanks much for the link! I've found a few M100's, but most run in the $900+ range. The M101s are more common, and cheaper.

Not sure if that kind of mod is outside of my technical capabilities, but it's some food for thought!
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No, not yet. Still trying to win the $500 bonus cash lottery (had one, expired 1/31). My solid order date is April 18 if I don't have one yet.

How's the Crush?

Thanks much for the link! I've found a few M100's, but most run in the $900+ range. The M101s are more common, and cheaper.

Not sure if that kind of mod is outside of my technical capabilities, but it's some food for thought!
Nice! yeah my 500 bonus cash came 3 days after I got mine but the dealer found it in the system when I got there and gave it to me anyways. The Crush is awesome and it just keeps getting better, took the freedom panels of today and it was simply epic. one word of warning you won't want to get out of it I have almost put on 2000 miles in less than a month and I really haven't gone anywhere other than bringing it home and you will be drawn to find out where random trails go out of the blue. yeah the m100's are expensive. The m101s look awesome and they are probably out of my technical skills but I want to push myself and see what I can learn and I would rather practice on a cheap trailer than my Jeep. def post up when you get your Jeep, what color are you going with?
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Going Commando. Although I pointed out a Crush to my wife this weekend, and she said "Why couldn't you get that color??"
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Here is our trailer on our last camping trip:
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Probably not what you are thinking but it gets the job done. And I am in a JKU
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Here is our trailer on our last camping trip:
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That's exceptional.

I got a quote from Schultz, about the price of a used YJ. So Im going to wait a while.

Thanks for those pics :-)
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Thanks. It was expensive, quite a wait for it but definitely worth it. We have taken the trailer on some pretty good runs and have had no problems with it.
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That's exceptional.

I got a quote from Schultz, about the price of a used YJ. So Im going to wait a while.

Thanks for those pics :-)
Yeah, that's really nice. Looks like what I'd eventually like to do.
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That's pretty much what I had in mind.

Well under 5K.

It appears light enough (JK).

Thanks for the link.

I've been searching surplus M trailers, but I think I'll wait until I can buy one retail.

I'm also going to check with a local trailer shop who does mostly farming/industrial trailers, but I called him today and he says "IF you can kinda draw it out, I can tell you how much I'll charge you to build one" So that's another avenue.
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And just to try to make this thread a complete compilation, add Bundu. More a fully equipped expedition trailer located in Santa Fe, NM. Bundu Gear - The finest South African Safari Equipment in the world

I'm going to check out Manley when I'm in Ohio in a couple of weeks.
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And just to try to make this thread a complete compilation, add Bundu. More a fully equipped expedition trailer located in Santa Fe, NM. Bundu Gear - The finest South African Safari Equipment in the world

I'm going to check out Manley when I'm in Ohio in a couple of weeks.
Hummm that's interesting I live in Santa Fe and I've never heard of them or seen their trailers
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All I use is a normal 6x4 trailer. Bought three tool boxes that fit across the bed, these hold all camping supplies. I have a 15 person tent for 4 of us to fit in, also fits easy. All up I can fit enough gear to last us a week without seeing a town or another person. Cost of trailer, tool boxes and tent was around $3000. About half the price of a second hand camping trailer. Plus I have the bonus of a normal trailer to use.

Trailer sits level when towed behind my jeep. No need to spend money on big tyres for your trailer. All drive comes from your car, trailer wheels only get dragged. My trailer makes it to the same places as those who have big wheels and expensive suspension. As I was told keep it simple stupid ( KISS )
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All I use is a normal 6x4 trailer. Bought three tool boxes that fit across the bed, these hold all camping supplies. I have a 15 person tent for 4 of us to fit in, also fits easy. All up I can fit enough gear to last us a week without seeing a town or another person. Cost of trailer, tool boxes and tent was around $3000. About half the price of a second hand camping trailer. Plus I have the bonus of a normal trailer to use.

Trailer sits level when towed behind my jeep. No need to spend money on big tyres for your trailer. All drive comes from your car, trailer wheels only get dragged. My trailer makes it to the same places as those who have big wheels and expensive suspension. As I was told keep it simple stupid ( KISS )
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