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Old 12-03-2010, 10:14 AM   #31
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Lol! I found the tie Downs like 5 mins after I posted that. I did this last night haven't taken any picture yet. But I was a cheap easy mod. 1 it looks great. 2 its very cheap. 3 no more leaves down under my grill I can't reach. Bad a$$ mod man love it. Ill post pics after I get off work. Wichita is in 8 hours.

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Old 12-03-2010, 12:13 PM   #32
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Aelwero- Ohhh man, I spotted that chainmail and smiled. I used to mess around with different weaves when I was younger but got embarrassed of it and shied away. Being as its easy to do and it would look awesome I may just do that to my Jeep. 4-1 is a piece of cake but do you close your links? From the pic it doesn't look like you do. I never did.
They're just "butted" as long as it's heavier gauge, that's plenty. I've done welded and riveted and will avoid it at all costs when I can... either one is TEDIOUS.

If you want cheap, get some galvanized tension wire at lowe's. It's super rough on your hands to knit, but even without rivets or welds it's super crazy tough I got a chunk of heavy galvie in "serpent skin" weave on my seat for airfow and looks. It really works on a Jeep because it's something you can't get at a store.

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Old 12-04-2010, 03:35 PM   #33
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pins

any help with which pins to take out to get the grill off... I have all the supplies to do the mod, but don't want to just start popping pins out ... anyone have any pics would be helpful....

I have a 2001 TJ

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Old 12-04-2010, 05:10 PM   #34
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Aelwero- Could you post a pick of your seat? I'm thinking that, the grill guard mod, and maybe a steering wheel cover would be awesome. I'm gonna have to go buy some metal
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Old 12-04-2010, 05:28 PM   #35
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I'm doing this mod tonight--who can quickly tell me how to get the grille off? I'm sure I can figure it out, but it'll be dark, so any help will be appreciated.
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Old 12-04-2010, 05:51 PM   #36
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going to have to do this mod, but I have a TJ, how easy/hard is it to get the grill off a TJ?
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Old 12-04-2010, 11:53 PM   #37
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Old 12-04-2010, 11:58 PM   #38
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I used the ziptie method first then after about 6months in the southern heat and rain they started to come off. The main difference being I used expanded metal. I have since went with making a frame as seen on other forums. Has held up better for me....yours is definatly the cheaper route though! Looks good and I hope yours holds up better than mine
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Old 12-05-2010, 11:48 AM   #39
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Good call on the gutter guard, I would have been wandering around HD all day. I probably would have bought $100 bucks of stuff and nothing I went for.
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Old 12-05-2010, 02:39 PM   #40
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the bad news, I first went to Home Depot, and got all the supplies i needed, they didn't have the plastic rolled gutter guard, but have a nice metal mess pattern gutter guard, I took my time and paint it black, should have cut the piece to size first before paint. So I installed a shown, the tie downs started popping before I even finished . So I ended up hot glueing all the tie downs, its hasn't even been hot this weekend. Once it get hot I will let you know whole well the hot glue worked.
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the bad news, I first went to Home Depot, and got all the supplies i needed, they didn't have the plastic rolled gutter guard, but have a nice metal mess pattern gutter guard, I took my time and paint it black, should have cut the piece to size first before paint. So I installed a shown, the tie downs started popping before I even finished . So I ended up hot glueing all the tie downs, its hasn't even been hot this weekend. Once it get hot I will let you know whole well the hot glue worked.
Yeah I tried home depot but I had better luck finding the plastic at lowes
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Old 12-08-2010, 11:25 PM   #43
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If you were to buy this out of a mag. the damn near $200 this was $15 at the most! Awsome!
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Old 12-09-2010, 07:37 AM   #44
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The zip-ties seem to hold quite well. Although it's only been a couple of months since I did the 'mod', mine haven't budged at all.
I may have spoken too soon... I was looking at mine yesterday and discovered that a few of the zip tie blocks have come unstuck.

Oh well, I've got to change my oil this weekend anyways. I'll just have to pull the grill off and fix the guard while I wait for my oil to drain.
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All i have not tried this yet, but from previous experience 3M makes an adhesive for plastics called CA8. We used it in other automotive applications. Should be able to get it at lowes or hd. If i get around to doing this i will let u all know. Please be aware it is a very thin liquid, but very tough stuff.
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all the mods are on newer jeeps.... anyone got any pics from a TJ 2001 or in that area. tried to follow the instructions from the dealer manual, but it won't budge.... any ideas or help!!! please

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all the mods are on newer jeeps.... anyone got any pics from a TJ 2001 or in that area. tried to follow the instructions from the dealer manual, but it won't budge.... any ideas or help!!! please

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Hey gator,

I have a 2004, I havent finishes yet, but you have to in bolt 6 bolts under the wheel well on each side then un bolt 3 on the back side of the radiator ( 3 on left, 3 right) then the 2 that bold on top of the grill, then there are 2 ground bolts for the head lights.

No pics yet sorry
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Hey gator,

I have a 2004, I havent finishes yet, but you have to in bolt 6 bolts under the wheel well on each side then un bolt 3 on the back side of the radiator ( 3 on left, 3 right) then the 2 that bold on top of the grill, then there are 2 ground bolts for the head lights.

No pics yet sorry
are there 3 bolts under each wheel well, or 6 bolts under each wheel well....

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are there 3 bolts under each wheel well, or 6 bolts under each wheel well....

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6 on each side, 3 on the front side and 3 on the inside of the well
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6 on each side, 3 on the front side and 3 on the inside of the well

i'm gonna give it another shot this weekend.... if it doesn't snow too much!!!


thanks Twilkerson!!
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i'm gonna give it another shot this weekend.... if it doesn't snow too much!!!

thanks Twilkerson!!
No prob man I'll try to take some pics to show u tonight
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that would be great...thanks!!!!
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Old 12-15-2010, 08:29 PM   #53
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Anybody tried this mod with black wire mesh, like from a fireplace curtain?
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Old 03-28-2011, 05:35 PM   #54
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Did this mod on the weekend, seemed like fun and it was ! But honestly I'm not sure I like it as much as I thought I would ... I think the mod looks better in pictures than in reality. IMO the mesh is too thin... I'll try to find something thicker...
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I like it a lot I'm considering doing this for my yj. What did you use besides gorilla glue to hold it to the grill?
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I actually got some of the metal gutter guard mesh stuff for my TJ's grill. As soon as I get the grill off (I'll have time this coming week) I'll have pics up...
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I like it a lot I'm considering doing this for my yj. What did you use besides gorilla glue to hold it to the grill?
The gorilla glue was only to stick the tie wrap blocks to the grill, the mesh holds with the tie wraps and its pretty solid but we still see the radiator behind the mesh and this is why I think it's too thin... It's a question of personnal preference, I went to three different hardware stored to try to find something thicker but with no luck... I'll leave it as is until I find something else maybe I'll get used to it...
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its pretty solid but we still see the radiator behind the mesh and this is why I think it's too thin..
I don't think you want to impede the air flow to your radiator by the way. Just a thought.
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Pretty sure pep boys used to carry some for this purpose but I also saw it on a 4wd site just blank wire mesh but basically sold for this application when I was googling wire mesh grills for my yj with no luck... I know most of them are aluminum with no color but a simple spray job will fix that
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I don't think you want to impede the air flow to your radiator by the way. Just a thought.
The aluminum ones are thicker and seem to let air flow run fine... But I personally prefer the flexibility of plastic so I was searching for an in between made some research and found out about some rockshield mesh for pipelines and that looks PRETTY sweet but can't find this shit in hardware stores

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