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Old 12-01-2010, 07:08 AM   #1
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So I was tired of pulling leaves from my radiator. (when my wife had her Liberty in the field, it was a HUGE problem each day). I read on here about someone who used aluminum gutter guards to fab some grill guards. I searched to add my post to his, but couldn't find it. so here's mine.

I used the plastic gutter guards mostly because they were already black, and I wouldn't have to paint them. Also, they are more flexible, and I thought if they were hit by a small rock or two they wouldn't get all dinged up.

1. Remove the Grill- very easy. There are a few plastic clips to pop up with a flat head screwdriver, then remove the plastic pin and remove the plastic retainer.

2. Wipe down with clean rag- I used just a bit of degreaser to make sure the zip tie clips would stick.


3. cut guards with scissors- just regular old scissors. I cut the guards about 1" bigger all the way around so that I could bend the edges to fit over the shape of the grill slat.
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4. Place the zip tie clips- two between each slat. you tie two guards to each clip (except for the outer two clips on each end of the grill)
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5.- Zip tie in place- tighten them slowly and in a cross patter as you would tighten the lugs on your wheel. this keeps the guard centered.
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6. trim off excess zip tie- this is a particular pet pieve of mine. After 15 years in the entertainment industry, I cannot abide floppy zip tie tails.
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The whole thing was probably the easiest mod I've ever done. The whol;e thing took about an hour.
You'll need one roll of gutter guard, 30 zip tie clips, and a bag of zip ties. the whol;e thing cost $15 +/-
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Old 12-01-2010, 07:24 AM   #2
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Very nice

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Old 12-01-2010, 07:25 AM   #3
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Very nice mod. I did the same to my old durango. Didnt feel like spending hundreds in a real grill insert so I did this also. But i used the mesh with the bigger holes.

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Old 12-01-2010, 08:40 AM   #4
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that looks really sharp! great idea!
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hmm... that looks familiar

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Old 12-01-2010, 09:21 AM   #6
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Looks good, I think I'll be copying you.
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it looks just as good as the expensive ones.
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Thanks for sharing this--it's going on my to-do list.

How sturdy is the adhesive on the zip tie clips? Thirty clips are a lot of potential spots for one or more of them to lose grip.
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Thanks for sharing this--it's going on my to-do list.

How sturdy is the adhesive on the zip tie clips? Thirty clips are a lot of potential spots for one or more of them to lose grip.
The zip-ties seem to hold quite well. Although it's only been a couple of months since I did the 'mod', mine haven't budged at all.
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I've heard of a lot of people using super glue to put them on after they remove the adhesive backing. I think the trouble with the adhesive backing arises in the summer months when it gets really hot. I can't personally attest to this though. I haven't done the mod yet; I want to, but I can't decide exactly how i want to do it. I've seen three different methods, and they all have their pros and cons.
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I did mine same way back in september starting to see a couple come loose going to epoxy mine tonight some followed me home from work lol . Its a great cheap mod did my wifes and mine for 20 bucks
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Zipped tied mine to frame.... Used expanded metal...Though I am looking for a smaller patteren
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^^^ Where at? Pics?
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Kool...

Dont have any pics...

Tried to type it out for you but its hard to explain. Will try and get u some pics.
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Gotcha. Thanks in advance!
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Imma do this in the verrry near future! Thanks man.
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Zipped tied mine to frame.... Used expanded metal...Though I am looking for a smaller patteren

I got mine from Lowes over where the concrete material is at. A 32" by 8 foot piece was $9.98 and was a smaller pattern and worked great. Zipped tied a large one piece to my frame also.

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The more I read this forum, the more I realize that Jeep owners are cheap and ingenious.

Somebody above posted about using epoxy. Make sure it's "plastic safe". Not all are. Been epoxying "sticky-backs" (the little plastic squares that the tie-wraps are attached to), on communications towers for years. The stuff I get at work is "mil-spec", but you can get similar stuff at hardware stores.

Use a razor blade and cut off the majority of the adhesive that is pre-stuck to the sticky back. First couple ones suck, but you get the hang of it pretty fast.
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The plastic mesh looks very cool

I tried command adhesive hooks on mine. worked well, but it didn't hold up to mud/rain/sun for long. I replaced the command adhesive strips, put em back on a second time and then put JB Weld over em.

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So far the "sticky Backs" are holding. I almost wonder if Hot glue would be an answer if they start peeling off. Hot glue can always be picked off if desired
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I got mine from Lowes over where the concrete material is at. A 32" by 8 foot piece was $9.98 and was a smaller pattern and worked great. Zipped tied a large one piece to my frame also.


I will need head to Lowes....I think the smaller pattern looks better
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Where do you get zip tie clips and is that the real name of them?
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Where do you get zip tie clips and is that the real name of them?
Any hardware store. They'll be in the Electrical section. They have lots of names, but if you ask for "tie-wrap mounting blocks" you'll have the best chance of finding them.

I work PT at one of the big boxes.
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Heres a couple pics if it helps
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I've used black screen door screen for this on grills also.......
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Paint it black and it wont stand out as much.......
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AelWero- What does your grill look like from the front. Pics? I see you went with a circular mesh instead of the linear. I wanted to see how it compairs?

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AelWero- What does your grill look like from the front. Pics? I see you went with a circular mesh instead of the linear. I wanted to see how it compairs?

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His looks awesome on his Jeep! IIRC, he actually made the whole thing himself. Very cool idea, and completely custom.
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it's not mesh, it's european 4-in-1 chainmail, knitted in 16GA aluminum, and I doubt you'd find it in a store pics and how it's knitted in my original post on it

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Aelwero- Ohhh man, I spotted that chainmail and smiled. I used to mess around with different weaves when I was younger but got embarrassed of it and shied away. Being as its easy to do and it would look awesome I may just do that to my Jeep. 4-1 is a piece of cake but do you close your links? From the pic it doesn't look like you do. I never did.

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