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Old 05-11-2014, 03:45 PM   #5221
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Did you go with a different product or just decide to stick with the original setup?
Stock for now.

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Stock for now.
Thanks, Captain O. If we run into a similar situation, ours will go back too. Hopefully it'll work.

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Thanks, Ashcan. Mr. handsome has all of the tools and expertise-- patience, meh. He was an airplane mechanic in the USAF for a time....so I know he can do it. It sounds like fit varies. I have a reasonable gap now with the stock latches so I have room for some snugging without contact. We will see. Reviews overall seem good except of course for the cases where they haven't fit. We aren't in a high crime area but if traveling could be in areas where I'd be vulnerable. And it does live out in our driveway.
A couple of quick thoughts. The leather spacers I added went on top of the rather thin spacers Rampage provides. Much thinner than the OEM gasket Jeep uses. He'll see when he gets into it.

Second, though if hubby was a mechanic he'll know, when you first close them you want the bolts tight but still loose enough that you can just slide the locks around a bit. The locking tolerances are tight. If you're a 1/16" out of alignment, they won't work. Close doesn't count here - you have to have them adjusted on the money. Otherwise they ain't gonna close properly. You need to slide them around a bit to find that magical spot - then do the final tighten down.
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A couple of quick thoughts. The leather spacers I added went on top of the rather thin spacers Rampage provides. Much thinner than the OEM gasket Jeep uses. He'll see when he gets into it. Second, though if hubby was a mechanic he'll know, when you first close them you want the bolts tight but still loose enough that you can just slide the locks around a bit. The locking tolerances are tight. If you're a 1/16" out of alignment, they won't work. Close doesn't count here - you have to have them adjusted on the money. Otherwise they ain't gonna close properly. You need to slide them around a bit to find that magical spot - then do the final tighten down.
Thanks very much, Ashcan. I just read your post to him :-). We will give it a whirl. I'm sure there will be some choice words thrown around when we get to it!
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Painting my tow hooks today. I thought I'd do a little trim work. What do you think? Doing the same to the AC vents now.
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Looks good, ARWillys! Definitely one of my favorite mods!
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Those look great. Plasti dip?
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Thanks! Not plastidip, just Rustoleum! Super easy project. Love the tiny bit of color in the otherwise dark-on-dark interior.
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Thanks! Not plastidip, just Rustoleum! Super easy project. Love the tiny bit of color in the otherwise dark-on-dark interior.
How did you do this? How did you get paint only in the letters and numbers and not outside of them?
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How did you do this? How did you get paint only in the letters and numbers and not outside of them?
I taped off around the words like the pic below, then gave it a semi-heavy coat of spray paint. As soon as I did that, I took the tape off and put just a little bit of Mineral Spirits on a microfiber cloth. Then I started lightly rubbing across the painted area. After a few passes you will notice the paint starting to come off. Just keep lightly wiping. You don't want to push too hard or you will take the paint out of the letters. If you end up doing that, just repeat the process!
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I taped off around the words like the pic below, then gave it a semi-heavy coat of spray paint. As soon as I did that, I took the tape off and put just a little bit of Mineral Spirits on a microfiber cloth. Then I started lightly rubbing across the painted area. After a few passes you will notice the paint starting to come off. Just keep lightly wiping. You don't want to push too hard or you will take the paint out of the letters. If you end up doing that, just repeat the process!
i'm trying to figure out a way to do the silver vents and such copperhead with the letters in black...might just have to get a "paint pen" to fill the letters in after painting the whole thing copper.
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I taped off around the words like the pic below, then gave it a semi-heavy coat of spray paint. As soon as I did that, I took the tape off and put just a little bit of Mineral Spirits on a microfiber cloth. Then I started lightly rubbing across the painted area. After a few passes you will notice the paint starting to come off. Just keep lightly wiping. You don't want to push too hard or you will take the paint out of the letters. If you end up doing that, just repeat the process!
Looks great. How do the vent covers come off?
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First, have you disabled HSA yet? I did and I really like the difference in clutch response.

Yep, that was the first thing I did when I got into the Jeep. Super easy since it's basically two or three button clicks on the steering wheel.

Clutch is still too vague for me, though. I can never feel when it bites (ha), so I never know when the Jeep is about to stall out. I'm getting better at it with practice, but it's taking some getting used to.
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i'm trying to figure out a way to do the silver vents and such copperhead with the letters in black...might just have to get a "paint pen" to fill the letters in after painting the whole thing copper.
I think if you painted the rings copperhead, let them dry COMPLETELY, then clear coat and dry COMPLETELY, you could try the above described method to do the letters in black. I didn't spray the whole word, I used a fine brush and filled in the letters, so there wasn't the extra overspray.

Look at the E and the P in the right side vent. You can see that they are overfilled with paint. That's how I did all the letters, that picture I took mid fixing a goof.




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Looks great. How do the vent covers come off?
If you look on youtube there are some videos on how to do it. Remind me when we talk again or send me an email when you see this and I can walk you through what I did.

I'd send it now, but they are bring my dinner plate to the table as I type.
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I think if you painted the rings copperhead, let them dry COMPLETELY, then clear coat and dry COMPLETELY, you could try the above described method to do the letters in black. I didn't spray the whole word, I used a fine brush and filled in the letters, so there wasn't the extra overspray. Look at the E and the P in the right side vent. You can see that they are overfilled with paint. That's how I did all the letters, that picture I took mid fixing a goof. If you look on youtube there are some videos on how to do it. Remind me when we talk again or send me an email when you see this and I can walk you through what I did. I'd send it now, but they are bring my dinner plate to the table as I type.
I'll look for the you tube. Enjoy your Mother's Day dinner service!
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Anyone have experience with the Rampage locking hood latches? Reviews seem mixed but not sure if that's from mechanically challenged folks.
I also looked at these. The reviews indicate a difficult installation/fit, and people are indicating that here as well I see. Could be hit-or-miss. I'm also wondering if the mechanism will hold up over time.

That being said, the Mopar hood lock looks to be simpler install and more convenient as it codes itself to the vehicles ignition key. No bad reviews that I've seen (amazon). $50 more which may be well worth it. I'm leaning toward that hood lock. Anyone want to weigh in on this choice (pros/cons)?

Either way, I'm interested to hear how the install goes as I may not decide for a bit.
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Jeep included those snap straps for rolling up the window in back but they don't use a material that will not scratch the surface. Unfortunately I already discovered this because I rolled the window up twice only to discover scratches from the straps after putting it back down the second time. So yes everyone, do NOT use the snap straps to roll up the rear window because it will scuff it up. (fail on Jeep)
I don't have my soft top on yet, but I'm wondering if there's a way of gluing an alternative thin material to the strap (say, felt) that could be inbetween the velcro and window that would be less abrasive and therefore less likely to scratch?
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Tow hooks painted Safety Red! Looks amazing in person.
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Wow, those really pop, looks great.
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I also looked at these. The reviews indicate a difficult installation/fit, and people are indicating that here as well I see. Could be hit-or-miss. I'm also wondering if the mechanism will hold up over time.

That being said, the Mopar hood lock looks to be simpler install and more convenient as it codes itself to the vehicles ignition key. No bad reviews that I've seen (amazon). $50 more which may be well worth it. I'm leaning toward that hood lock. Anyone want to weigh in on this choice (pros/cons)?

Either way, I'm interested to hear how the install goes as I may not decide for a bit.
I've been thinking about the Mopar hood lock as well. The only thing holding me back is that I would also like to install some grill inserts down the road. I'm not sure which one I'd rather have. I've also considered the Rampage locks but I'm concerned about some of the reviews. Decisions, decisions.
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Since we're on the top of jeep security, what are people doing about a fuel door mod/add? I haven't heard good things about doors that lock. The mopar door seems to get good reviews and I'm leaning toward that option (with a locking gas cap).
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I've been thinking about the Mopar hood lock as well. The only thing holding me back is that I would also like to install some grill inserts down the road. I'm not sure which one I'd rather have. I've also considered the Rampage locks but I'm concerned about some of the reviews. Decisions, decisions.
I just bought materials to do the inexpensive grill mod (gutter guards and tie-wraps). I'm hoping I can cut a "key hole" through the guard locally in way of the mechanism. I suppose you could do the same with the fitted inserts...
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I don't have my soft top on yet, but I'm wondering if there's a way of gluing an alternative thin material to the strap (say, felt) that could be inbetween the velcro and window that would be less abrasive and therefore less likely to scratch?
It's not just the straps though, drogio. It's just the whole window rolling up and rubbing on itself. For that idea to work, you'd really need to put a whole sheet of felt covering the whole window in there.
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Since we're on the top of jeep security, what are people doing about a fuel door mod/add? I haven't heard good things about doors that lock. The mopar door seems to get good reviews and I'm leaning toward that option (with a locking gas cap).
I think I'll just be getting the Mopar locking gas cap that can be keyed to your ignition key.
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It's not just the straps though, drogio. It's just the whole window rolling up and rubbing on itself. For that idea to work, you'd really need to put a whole sheet of felt covering the whole window in there.
That's what I do! Actually, just a black sheet, so you can't see it.

Cut out a sheet to fit the rear window (and hang over a little on each side, just so you don't have to be super precise when you roll it up.) Leave a couple of "tabs" of sheeting along the top edge, about 3"x10", in from each edge about 10", iirc (wherever the straps naturally line up with the window.

Hold the bottom of the sheet down at the stiff bar at the bottom of the window, then start rolling. The sheet keeps the plastic pieces separated.

When you get to the top, those two tabs sticking up are all that can be seen of the sheet, for they are still sticking out of the roll. Let them drape down around the outside of the roll, right where the straps go. Pull the straps out around the ends of the roll and let them go back into place where they normally would, only now they are over the fabric tabs.

Wow, that's hard to explain. I need to take some pix this week. It works perfectly.

I'm planning to glue two small squares of velcro (the soft side) to the top of the rear window canvas, and the hard side to the sheet. Just to hold it in place while rolling, since it tries to flop down over your arms till you get enough of it rolled up.
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I also looked at these. The reviews indicate a difficult installation/fit, and people are indicating that here as well I see. Could be hit-or-miss. I'm also wondering if the mechanism will hold up over time. That being said, the Mopar hood lock looks to be simpler install and more convenient as it codes itself to the vehicles ignition key. No bad reviews that I've seen (amazon). $50 more which may be well worth it. I'm leaning toward that hood lock. Anyone want to weigh in on this choice (pros/cons)? Either way, I'm interested to hear how the install goes as I may not decide for a bit.


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I've been thinking about the Mopar hood lock as well. The only thing holding me back is that I would also like to install some grill inserts down the road. I'm not sure which one I'd rather have. I've also considered the Rampage locks but I'm concerned about some of the reviews. Decisions, decisions.
I did a bunch of reading on this today. These seem to be the two most popular choices. We are installing a metal crafter grill insert so I'm not cutting that for a hood lock. Some people have cut the inserts to make it work. Some people don't like the look of the lock in the grill. The big pro seems to be the matched key. Since most of us aren't under he hood all that often, I'm not sure how important this is. It's not a big deal,to me.

The rampage locks are impressive -- they seem very substantial. I don't think holding up will be an issue. I don't understand the variation in fit since we haven't tried yet but it is a concern. Some people have had no issue at all. Aesthetically I like the latches better but if they don't fit, they will go back. It does come with four keys. We will probably install everything Tuesday or Wednesday since we will have the grill off for the insert.


For the gas -- I did buy the molar locking gas cap,that matches the ignition key. I had one before and like them. They're expensive and then you have to get it keyed. My dealer's parts guys got it done for me. Since we do buy gas a lot, the convenience of the same key is nice for the gas cap so I was willing to pay up for it.
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That looks great. I have actually been thinking about doing this and now I'm convinced. Did you use standard red gloss spray paint?
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That looks great. I have actually been thinking about doing this and now I'm convinced. Did you use standard red gloss spray paint?
Thanks! I used this ...

After several coats, I stuck them in the oven at 170 for about 20 min, then turned the oven off and let them just sit there for about an hour. I think that really helps the paint set. Gives it a good factory finish and feel.

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