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Old 12-08-2010, 12:52 PM   #31
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I completely removed the shifter boot from the metal frame its built on.I went to pepboys and bought a suede black shifter boot to fit over the metal frame and it simply is held on by a secure rubber strap sewn into the boot.very simple and highly recommended.i have pics of all the parts and disassembly if needed.

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Old 12-08-2010, 02:55 PM   #32
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Glad you got it worked out. I'm still parking mine in reverse gear and doing OK. We'll see what happens when the mercury dips below -20c.

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Old 12-08-2010, 03:29 PM   #33
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Ill email you those pics.if you can post them it may help other members.
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Old 12-08-2010, 09:14 PM   #34
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Ill email you those pics.if you can post them it may help other members.
Here are your pics JF. Looks pretty good.

I got clearance today from my service manager to cut off my boot. I'm going to leave it off for a while and see if Chrysler can come up with a fix.

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Old 12-10-2010, 09:34 AM   #35
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Ok guys here's the deal.I just removed the console (shifter boot assembly and cup holders)....

Im happy to report that there was NO jumping out of gear at anytime.The shape of the console is interfering with the positive engagements.
With clearance from my dealer's service manager, I cut out the outer-boot yesterday because the Jeep was popping out of 4th like crazy with the temps hovering around 30F in the morning.

My wife confirmed all was good this morning, so we've definitely root-caused the issue to the outer boot just like Gvfjr.

Our hypotheses is:

1) When the upper neck of the outer boot is pulled up by the shift knob, the front of the boot pulls the shifter out of 4th (and 2nd)

2) If you push the neck down away from the shift knob, the rear of the boot bunches up behind the shifter next to the console and pushes the shifter out of 4th (and 2nd)

We're going to give Jeep HQ a while to come up with a fix -- i.e. a new boot... more to follow.

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Old 12-17-2010, 02:04 PM   #36
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you guys have helped me so much with all this! I thought it was just me and thats why I went looking for a post like this! I just go tmy JK and have been driving stick for 15 years...I knew it wasn't me but this is my first jeep I thought it was a jeep thing....I'm so happy to find out its not. I just made an appointment at the Jeep dealer and am taking her in first thing on monday!
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Old 12-21-2010, 09:03 PM   #37
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I have a 2011 and it pops out of 4th constantly and 2nd occasionally. I left the Jeep in reverse overnight. I had no problems today. Thanks for the advice Andrew. I look forward to Jeep coming up with a proper fix though.
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Old 12-21-2010, 09:22 PM   #38
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Jeep Engineer..."Note to self...test the Jeep in frigid temps!" LOL!
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Old 12-21-2010, 09:44 PM   #39
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I reported the matter to the following link. Is the this the correct organization?
https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/online.cfm
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Old 12-21-2010, 11:49 PM   #40
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Mine was jumping out of 4th when cold outside also,dealer was no help.
So I pushed the shifter boot down past the bend and wound black electrical tape around the shifter. Had to wrap it until it was built up enough that the boot would stay down. I didn't tape the boot to shifter rod though. Now it has stayed in gear so far even with temps in the -10C. Hope this helps,if not at least its easy to remove the tape.Hope Jeep comes up with a fix soon.
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Old 03-06-2011, 12:44 PM   #41
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We're going to give Jeep HQ a while to come up with a fix -- i.e. a new boot... more to follow.
Well, they never came up with anything, so I got a leather one made from Redline Goods. They didn't have a pattern, so we were the guinea pig, but it worked out great and they were great to work with.

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/red...1-a-83391.html

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Here's a video of mine doing it this morning. I just bought the Jeep two days ago and luckily the dealer allowed me to return it. I don't believe the leather boot is to blame because they gave me a loaner Jeep that's a six speed and it drives so much better than the one I returned.

Thank you all for keeping this forum going because it's what helped me realize I wasn't crazy for not being able to replicate it for the dealer....hence the video.
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Old 04-02-2011, 06:42 AM   #43
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Here's a video of mine doing it this morning. I just bought the Jeep two days ago and luckily the dealer allowed me to return it. I don't believe the leather boot is to blame because they gave me a loaner Jeep that's a six speed and it drives so much better than the one I returned.

Thank you all for keeping this forum going because it's what helped me realize I wasn't crazy for not being able to replicate it for the dealer....hence the video.
I'm glad you caught it on video. The dealer acknowledge/admitted that there was a problem with mine, but the only offer that was made to me was to *BUY* a new one!!!! I started reporting the problem when temps got cold with about 2000 miles on the vehicle.

They removed the inner shift boot which made the thing sound like a bucket of bolts. You literally heard every gear noise, clutch noise etc. Then they tried a new inner boot - which didn't fix it. Then at Jeep's request they cut "relief" holes or cuts in the inner boot to relieve the tension. This solution didn't help and again made the vehicle sound like crap.

The last solution that was tried isn't perfect, but it is dramatically better. They had a custom inner boot (Not the outter boot you see) made out of leather. Now it hasn't seemed to pop out of gear, and you don't hear all the gear/clutch noise.

Though it doesn't pop out of gear anymore, 2nd gear is still a pain. Always requires an overly slow finessed shift. I love my Rubicon, but this transmission is a PIECE OF JUNK. Jeep should be ashamed of themselves for letting this problem go on for so many years. I'm not sure I will ever buy another Jeep again. This is supposed to be the "toughest" vehicle built and it's completely hobbled by a crappy transmission. Sad.
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Old 04-02-2011, 09:47 AM   #44
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Well, they never came up with anything, so I got a leather one made from Redline Goods. They didn't have a pattern, so we were the guinea pig, but it worked out great and they were great to work with.

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/red...1-a-83391.html

That boot looks very nice.....

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