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Old 10-13-2011, 06:57 PM   #31
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Timely thread. I'm going over this exact question. I current have a Porsche Boxster that I love and have owned for 14 years. I now also have a pair of 3.5 year olds, and am starting to move them around, so end up having to use my VW EuroVan camper to drive to work sometimes, or more so just go back home and get the Porsche.

I love cornering, (and decent acceleration and quickness) Really, the only two things holding me back on the Jeep are whether I will still enjoy driving it to work on a day to day (and the lack of cornering is a concern for me there) and because I do a lot of my longer drives in areas of mountain roads, so with lots of corners. And whether or not the top options will be fast enough for me to open / close for quick trips around here in the winter.
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When you come from a fast car...are you getting your JK's in manual?
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My 08 vette has 8000 miles on it. My 8 month old wrangler has 12000 miles on it. Only driven the vette one time since I got the jeep, and that was a 1100 mile trip. My jeep is not slow, so to speak, just different. Only drive a pickup when I need the room to haul or to tow.
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Not missing driving my S2000. The '12 JK is great fun to drive, just in a different manner from the Honda. And, yes, it's a manual.

Funny though... the Honda shifts with a flick of the wrist, and the JK with what seems like a 18" throw, but it's fun as hell.
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I miss my Jeep SRT8 because it was funny to wake the neighbors with the Borla exhaust when I started it in the morning. It was also cool to smoke wax's and sti's at the lights. But, now I prefer the slow, comfortable pace of the JK.
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Nope. I took over my wife's Acura for 3 weeks after she got a new car. Now the Acura was loaded, fast, paid for and pretty. Got a nice price for that car. Couldnt stand it. I have motorcycles for fast and over the years they've went from CBR's to HD's. I think I'm aging well.
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I regularly miss my MG Midget, especially on twisty-turny mountain roads. But air conditioning and not ever having to worry what the weather is going to do is nice.
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I love cornering, (and decent acceleration and quickness) Really, the only two things holding me back on the Jeep are whether I will still enjoy driving it to work on a day to day (and the lack of cornering is a concern for me there) and because I do a lot of my longer drives in areas of mountain roads, so with lots of corners. And whether or not the top options will be fast enough for me to open / close for quick trips around here in the winter.
I hate to be the voice of discouragement but it doesn't sound like a Wrangler is for you. Is it fun to drive on a daily basis? Absolutely. But if your definition of fun is quick cornering and ease of taking down/putting up the top, you won't find that in a Wrangler.
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Hmmmm I sold my dirtbike to buy my jeep, does that count?
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Got rid of my Corvette since I decided any day it was nice enough to drive the vette, I would rather be in the Wrangler with the top and doors off. Miss the speed and handling but love the Jeep more!
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I hate to be the voice of discouragement but it doesn't sound like a Wrangler is for you. Is it fun to drive on a daily basis? Absolutely. But if your definition of fun is quick cornering and ease of taking down/putting up the top, you won't find that in a Wrangler.
Actually, there is more to my definition of fun to that. I have to admit, a big part of it is having a convertible. Next part is having a stick ... I'm not expecting the Jeep to corner like the Porsche. Again, I also go up in the mountains, and love playing in the snow (right now we use the EuroVan Camper for that, and it's not exactly fun to slide around in the snow, although it works fine for getting us up there and back with full snows on) I also used to love dirt biking on trails etc although I don't get to do that much anymore since the kids (both girls) showed up. I'm hoping to get them doing that at some point in the near future though. Plan would be to take the jeep out to the trails towing the bikes. So, yeah, I do actually know how to play out on trails, and there is a moderate chance that if I buy a Jeep it would actually get dirty and play on some trails a bit.

The ease of taking the top down / up is more to the aspect that I need to be able to have the time to do it while I'm running to go get my kids from work (which, let's face it, is the majority of the time that I'm going to be able to get to drive the Jeep) ... (Always late for that ) Probably won't be that big a deal most of the time though, as we have underground parking at work, so should just be able to leave it top down, however, I live in Seattle, so I often have to throw the top up quickly in the winter. Part of what I love about my car is that I can have the top up in 45 seconds, so I always have it down if it's above 40 and it's not actually raining at the moment I leave the garage, which means that several days a week in the winter here I can actually drive with the top down.

I rented a 2011 JKU auto for a week with my kids when I was back visiting my folks and put on about 500 miles. It was an auto, and I enjoyed it for that trip, although got tired of not having a stick. I wasn't doing the daily drive / grind, so that's the part that I'm trying to figure out. Getting panels on off wasn't an issue cause I was never in a hurry. I figure the roll back on the sunrider will probably be good enough for that purpose.

Also, I hate cars that isolate you from the road (most people think of the Porsche as a luxury car, and mine in particular really isn't. There is nothing more on it for features than a Sahara, except for nicer seats and a power top. )

I took a test drive in a couple 2012s so far, and had a pretty fun time in a JKU Sport S 6 speed 3.73. I'm just trying to figure out if that'll cut it and I end up missing my Boxster too much. I'm basically figuring that I'll pick it up and sell the car, try it for a while, and if it doesn't end up working for a daily driver, I'll probably end up selling the camper and getting something more sporty. (The JKU will be a good alternative to the Camper for towing the toys, going skiing etc and *DEFINITELY* will be more fun to drive than that one.)

Edit: I also do a lot of my own mechanic work, and figure the Jeep is one of the few things I can get where that's still relatively straightforward.
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get a motorcyle.
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get a motorcyle.
Got two thanks They don't carry kids very well either.
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Fast cars are worthless when the road turns to crap, and I see them at the same stoplights anyway. The Jeep and the RV have thought me to slow down and enjoy the ride.

Unless it's a Subaru.
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I came from a bigger, faster truck (2001 Dodge Ram 4X4).

The only time I miss it is when I'm on the freeway, struggling to get the Jeep up to 65.
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Unless it's a Subaru.
I had one, they're not great when there's more than a foot of snow on the ground though.
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I had one, they're not great when there's more than a foot of snow on the ground though.
Yeah, if its over the front bumper, otherwise front and rear LSD's, locked center diff and snow tires = monster snow toy.
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Yes, that's why I'm keeping my Pontiac G8 and gonna make it my weekend/toy car. Because I would miss the speed and handling of it.

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When you come from a fast car...are you getting your JK's in manual?
Yes, I'm ordering mine in manual, even though my Pontiac is auto.

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Fast cars are worthless when the road turns to crap, and I see them at the same stoplights anyway. The Jeep and the RV have thought me to slow down and enjoy the ride.
I wouldnt say they're worthless but the statement is true. This is also why I'm ordering the Jeep. I've already bent 2 rims and crushed some ball joints due to pot holes and crappy Jersey roads.
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Drove a manual 2003 TJ and now I can't sell my 2008 Pontiac G6 GT Coupe quick enough.
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I have two Jeeps and an R6. I drive 50 miles for work so right now I'm riding the bike. You can't campare speed vs offroad capability. They are just two diferent things. I love both and choose to keep them both.
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Old 10-15-2011, 12:13 AM   #52
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Nope.
I don't miss the smaller faster car one bit. the thing did great and it brought me to my new Jeep.

I can't ask any more of a car than that, but it's now Jeep time.
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I'm also coming from a smaller, much, much faster car. However, the Jeep is not a sports car. Enjoy it for what it is: A fun, convertible, capable off road vehicle that has been transformed into a smooth, luxurious, fun, convertible, but still fully capable off road vehicle. A Jeep is a freedom machine, and is the most fun you can have with a vehicle outside of being on a motorcycle. Fast car vs Jeep: two different animals... My car has been parked since I got the Jeep.
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I'm also coming from a smaller, much, much faster car. However, the Jeep is not a sports car. Enjoy it for what it is: A fun, convertible, capable off road vehicle that has been transformed into a smooth, luxurious, fun, convertible, but still fully capable off road vehicle. A Jeep is a freedom machine, and is the most fun you can have with a vehicle outside of being on a motorcycle. Fast car vs Jeep: two different animals... My car has been parked since I got the Jeep.
Well said ...... having the capability to get "unstuck" when faced with a bad situation is well worth any trade off. I think this applies to 2012 the most as you get better on road speed and better fuel consumption ...
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I own a 01 c240 and I only drove that car for a few months when I bought it now I'm back to the 92 yj. I really hate that car pulled over all the time 6 points later I'm ready to burn it to the ground.
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I'm dealing with the same issue myself. I'm getting ready to sell my '02 Vette for a 2012 JKU. Getting the Vette fulfilled a dream I had for many years and while I've really enjoyed it, it hasn't really been the experience I hoped it would be. Besides being a cop magnet and not really having much chance to open her up in LA traffic I have found (for me anyway) is that the thrill of sport driving is taking a car to its limit. To do that in my Corvette in the local canyons would mean stupid fast speeds where things can get out of hand very quickly. In that sense, the Honda I had many years ago was actually more fun. Taking it to the edge didn't mean triple digit speeds. It's been a lot of fun on weekends, but as a DD, I found myself preferring my wife's X3. I'm looking forward to my JKU
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I'm also coming from a smaller, much, much faster car. However, the Jeep is not a sports car. Enjoy it for what it is: A fun, convertible, capable off road vehicle that has been transformed into a smooth, luxurious, fun, convertible, but still fully capable off road vehicle. A Jeep is a freedom machine, and is the most fun you can have with a vehicle outside of being on a motorcycle. Fast car vs Jeep: two different animals... My car has been parked since I got the Jeep.
Very well stated.... A "freedom machine" is how I envision it. Doorless and topless...it is probably as close to a motorcyle as one can get on 4 wheels. Doors and HT on....it is as almost as luxurious, and far more capable than any other SUV out there.

I'm starting to get tired of waiting. This Winter Chill stuff is ticking me off....

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I'm dealing with the same issue myself. I'm getting ready to sell my '02 Vette for a 2012 JKU. Getting the Vette fulfilled a dream I had for many years and while I've really enjoyed it, it hasn't really been the experience I hoped it would be. Besides being a cop magnet and not really having much chance to open her up in LA traffic I have found (for me anyway) is that the thrill of sport driving is taking a car to its limit. To do that in my Corvette in the local canyons would mean stupid fast speeds where things can get out of hand very quickly. In that sense, the Honda I had many years ago was actually more fun. Taking it to the edge didn't mean triple digit speeds. It's been a lot of fun on weekends, but as a DD, I found myself preferring my wife's X3. I'm looking forward to my JKU
Good point....
The problem with having a really fast car is that...well....it is hard to find a place to go really fast without: a) putting yourself or others in danger...and b) worrying about a cop sitting over the next hill....
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I had a chrysler 300M and maybe not small but it was fast, although a grand cherokee is not well a wrangler, still the freedom i feel and the occasional impulse i get to drive offroad in the sand for no other reason than the thrill of it ....

Fast cars are a quick short pain relief (Like when u have a cold) .... Jeep's are a slow effecting permanent inoculation .... and man i need my 2012 inoculation ...

And as a friend of mine stated ever so elegantly "The only cars one should admire are cars with proper ground clearance .... "
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Hey guys....I'm new to the forums and to Jeep. I have a 2010 MINI John Cooper Works (hard top) right now that I am trading in for a 2012 Rubicon Unlimited. I'm going to miss the gokart-like handling and speed, but I'm sure that the Jeep is going to be more practical.
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Just got rid of an almost new subaru outback 3.6r, which is a pretty fast wagon and can go almost anywhere a jeep can within reason. One issue I had with my subaru was that it was fast but the acceleration felt synthetic and was kind of jumpy, I didn't feel a strong connection to the engine. However, my favorite thing about the outback was being able to throw it into corners going very fast and hit the gas and it would still stick to the road, also I would take it on a lot of dirt and mud trails for my work and it always provided great traction. Great car but lacked that connection for me.
My new JKU feels responsive and the accelleration feels smooth and consistent and not jumpy, I feel like I am in total control when accelerating and the handling coming from my old car while a lot looser makes it an easy pleasure to drive and I feel relaxed and laid back. I know I will not miss cornering at high speeds in my old subaru as I will be taking those corners TOPLESS now! Also important to note that before my suburu I had an FJ cruiser and within a month after getting the subaru I missed the combination of sitting up high, rugged yet sporty drive and ability to go pretty much anywhere, and that conncetion with the car. Now I have arrived back to where I was with my FJ but in my opinion the JKU is a much more exciting, rugged and multidimensional drive, and I can't believe I waited this long to get one.

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