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Old 09-07-2016, 10:38 AM   #781
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Unloved nerds with no life work at CR
I work at CR...and still bought a 16 JKU. Maybe you're right though, I am a nerd.
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Old 09-07-2016, 12:32 PM   #782
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Old 09-26-2016, 01:58 PM   #783
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Does anyone even read consumer report's anymore?
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Old 10-19-2016, 08:24 AM   #784
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"""""Does anyone even read consumer report's anymore?"""""""


Only folks who actually never buy anything ever, as it gives them comfort not to and their own justification of doubt.

I just happened to read the overall report of the JK in CR (2012 - 2015) and the only good news from the report was that it goes from really bad to average / good etc.

So with that said I fell good about my 2017 purchase.

The only trend I can tell from CR is that JEEP's trend for a new lines are that they start out really flawed and improve until retired
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There's an ongoing shift towards user-supplied content, such as individual reviews on Yelp, Amazon --and to some extent, forums like this one-- and away from the controlled opinion of organizations like CR, which are increasingly distrusted and viewed as prone to manipulation.

In broader terms, Baby Boomers are stuck on CR, while Millennials are quickly embracing user-content reviews.
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Old 10-27-2016, 10:30 PM   #786
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There's an ongoing shift towards user-supplied content, such as individual reviews on Yelp, Amazon --and to some extent, forums like this one-- and away from the controlled opinion of organizations like CR, which are increasingly distrusted and viewed as prone to manipulation.

In broader terms, Baby Boomers are stuck on CR, while Millennials are quickly embracing user-content reviews.
I believe this after seeing the long line just to ride in a Jeep on an indoor course at the Orange County car show. The Camp Jeep event had the longest line by far and several people stopped me to ask where I got my Jeep branded reusable tote bag. Yes, I waited in line and took the ride for the "special gift" promoted to Jeep Wave members :-) People see Jeeps on the road and they still have that cool/fun factor that most want to experience.
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Old 11-04-2016, 11:10 AM   #787
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Never drove a jeep, never rode in a jeep but always wanted one. I admired the looks, the charm and it's off road reputation.
I finally found myself in a position to be able to purchase a 2017 JKU Willys. I was driving a 2014 Ford Focus which I was very impressed with for what it is. Tight great handling car with a nice looking and quiet interior and of course excellent fuel efficiency.
While I was deciding on my Jeep configurations and trying to get as much knowledge as I could about them before going all in, I would constantly see reviews and articles which all looked like they were plagiarized. "Legendary off-road capabilities but much to be desired on road, blah blah blah".
So, I knew I wanted one regardless of whether it was noisy, bumpy, poor handling etc.
I put in a order for a 6sod manual Willys JKU and waited anxiously. I told my girlfriend that we have to be prepared for the Jeep because it's going to be like night and day compared to our tight and quiet little Focus. Maybe all those articles and reports had lowered my expectations but all I can say is after taking delivery of the Jeep a couple weeks ago we have been nothing but positively impressed.
The ride is far more quiet than I expected (we have the hardtop with headliner) the on road characteristics are much better than expected and the overall comfort and ride as a daily driver is well beyond our expectations.
Sure, if your going around a sweeping turn on the highway at high speeds you will feel the weight of the Jeep, it doesn't let you forget it's a light truck but as long as you respect that all is well.
Mind you, the Willys comes with mud terrain tires and still we feel the ride is comfortable and quiet enough to be our vehicle for life, this coming from our quiet little Ford Focus.
Here's something you don't read about in many reviews... with our Focus we drove it to get from point A to point B. The Jeep we often drive for no other reason than to just drive it, it's just that enjoyable.
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WW1 - welcome to the Jeep community and you have just found out that most driver's love the Jeep, but many of the press do not. It represents individuality not the group think that they push.
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WW1 - welcome to the Jeep community and you have just found out that most driver's love the Jeep, but many of the press do not. It represents individuality not the group think that they push.
From what I've seen, Consumer Reports and Forbes (which simply recycles CR stuff) are the only two publications that continue to detest Wranglers.

Every other magazine, from Car and Driver to Automobile to Road & Track appear to have learned to appreciate Wrangler for what it is. Some of these now even rank Wrangler among their most fun to drive vehicles.

After all, it is difficult to argue when Wrangler sales are steamy hot.
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Old 11-06-2016, 08:37 AM   #790
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I should have excluded the car enthusiast magazines in my comment. Of course they love the Jeeps, and all the other vehicles they love CR and other publications like them hate as well. Their response to horsepower is to complain about noise and poor gas mileage. They think everyone should be driving something akin to a Smart car. Small, low power, efficient on fuel and boooorrrrrrinnnggg.
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Publications like Consumer Reports like to categorize everything. Jeeps don't fit neatly into their "SUV" or "Light Truck" category. They are unique, and known particularly for off-road capability, which is not a consideration for the average car. In order to get a real handle on the "consumer opinion" of a Jeep, you just need to follow the money. Jeeps are popular, expensive to purchase new (we all know!), and traditionally hold their value much better than the typical car or truck.
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Old 12-30-2016, 03:10 AM   #792
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Consumer Reports gave the Jeep Wrangler unlimited a measly 17 score out of 100. Pretty sour response and definitely not deserved. of course, they dont account for off-road capabilities...
its all a money game, simple as that, screw them...

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