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Old 09-07-2016, 09:38 AM   #781
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Unloved nerds with no life work at CR
I work at CR...and still bought a 16 JKU. Maybe you're right though, I am a nerd.
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Old 09-07-2016, 11:32 AM   #782
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Old 09-26-2016, 12:58 PM   #783
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Does anyone even read consumer report's anymore?
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Old 10-19-2016, 07:24 AM   #784
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"""""Does anyone even read consumer report's anymore?"""""""


Only folks who actually never buy anything ever, as it gives them comfort not to and their own justification of doubt.

I just happened to read the overall report of the JK in CR (2012 - 2015) and the only good news from the report was that it goes from really bad to average / good etc.

So with that said I fell good about my 2017 purchase.

The only trend I can tell from CR is that JEEP's trend for a new lines are that they start out really flawed and improve until retired
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There's an ongoing shift towards user-supplied content, such as individual reviews on Yelp, Amazon --and to some extent, forums like this one-- and away from the controlled opinion of organizations like CR, which are increasingly distrusted and viewed as prone to manipulation.

In broader terms, Baby Boomers are stuck on CR, while Millennials are quickly embracing user-content reviews.
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Old 10-27-2016, 09:30 PM   #786
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There's an ongoing shift towards user-supplied content, such as individual reviews on Yelp, Amazon --and to some extent, forums like this one-- and away from the controlled opinion of organizations like CR, which are increasingly distrusted and viewed as prone to manipulation.

In broader terms, Baby Boomers are stuck on CR, while Millennials are quickly embracing user-content reviews.
I believe this after seeing the long line just to ride in a Jeep on an indoor course at the Orange County car show. The Camp Jeep event had the longest line by far and several people stopped me to ask where I got my Jeep branded reusable tote bag. Yes, I waited in line and took the ride for the "special gift" promoted to Jeep Wave members :-) People see Jeeps on the road and they still have that cool/fun factor that most want to experience.
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Never drove a jeep, never rode in a jeep but always wanted one. I admired the looks, the charm and it's off road reputation.
I finally found myself in a position to be able to purchase a 2017 JKU Willys. I was driving a 2014 Ford Focus which I was very impressed with for what it is. Tight great handling car with a nice looking and quiet interior and of course excellent fuel efficiency.
While I was deciding on my Jeep configurations and trying to get as much knowledge as I could about them before going all in, I would constantly see reviews and articles which all looked like they were plagiarized. "Legendary off-road capabilities but much to be desired on road, blah blah blah".
So, I knew I wanted one regardless of whether it was noisy, bumpy, poor handling etc.
I put in a order for a 6sod manual Willys JKU and waited anxiously. I told my girlfriend that we have to be prepared for the Jeep because it's going to be like night and day compared to our tight and quiet little Focus. Maybe all those articles and reports had lowered my expectations but all I can say is after taking delivery of the Jeep a couple weeks ago we have been nothing but positively impressed.
The ride is far more quiet than I expected (we have the hardtop with headliner) the on road characteristics are much better than expected and the overall comfort and ride as a daily driver is well beyond our expectations.
Sure, if your going around a sweeping turn on the highway at high speeds you will feel the weight of the Jeep, it doesn't let you forget it's a light truck but as long as you respect that all is well.
Mind you, the Willys comes with mud terrain tires and still we feel the ride is comfortable and quiet enough to be our vehicle for life, this coming from our quiet little Ford Focus.
Here's something you don't read about in many reviews... with our Focus we drove it to get from point A to point B. The Jeep we often drive for no other reason than to just drive it, it's just that enjoyable.
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Old 11-05-2016, 03:53 AM   #788
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WW1 - welcome to the Jeep community and you have just found out that most driver's love the Jeep, but many of the press do not. It represents individuality not the group think that they push.
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WW1 - welcome to the Jeep community and you have just found out that most driver's love the Jeep, but many of the press do not. It represents individuality not the group think that they push.
From what I've seen, Consumer Reports and Forbes (which simply recycles CR stuff) are the only two publications that continue to detest Wranglers.

Every other magazine, from Car and Driver to Automobile to Road & Track appear to have learned to appreciate Wrangler for what it is. Some of these now even rank Wrangler among their most fun to drive vehicles.

After all, it is difficult to argue when Wrangler sales are steamy hot.
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I should have excluded the car enthusiast magazines in my comment. Of course they love the Jeeps, and all the other vehicles they love CR and other publications like them hate as well. Their response to horsepower is to complain about noise and poor gas mileage. They think everyone should be driving something akin to a Smart car. Small, low power, efficient on fuel and boooorrrrrrinnnggg.
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Old 11-20-2016, 07:39 PM   #791
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Publications like Consumer Reports like to categorize everything. Jeeps don't fit neatly into their "SUV" or "Light Truck" category. They are unique, and known particularly for off-road capability, which is not a consideration for the average car. In order to get a real handle on the "consumer opinion" of a Jeep, you just need to follow the money. Jeeps are popular, expensive to purchase new (we all know!), and traditionally hold their value much better than the typical car or truck.
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Old 12-30-2016, 02:10 AM   #792
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Consumer Reports gave the Jeep Wrangler unlimited a measly 17 score out of 100. Pretty sour response and definitely not deserved. of course, they dont account for off-road capabilities...
its all a money game, simple as that, screw them...
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There is nothing like a Jeep. It's really in its own class. With all their complaints, after driving it for a few hours, I wondered if CR ever tested a Silverado ? Road noise? Handling? Seriously, the doors and roof are removable...no other vehicle has both options. Go ahead and drive a Polaris side by side on the highway...
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Old 04-06-2017, 12:31 PM   #794
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People that love CR also love the Sierra Club and PETA.
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Old 04-26-2017, 10:25 AM   #795
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I don't read CR, never have but see all the reposted stuff on the web regarding the Jeep poor quality, noise, etc....I wanted a JKU since they came out but had 3 young kids then so continued to drive a Volvo v70 as a daily ride and kept an alfa romeo spider and Tr6 as weekend toys; finally gave the Volvo to my 17yr old son, sold the alfa and my truck then purchased a new '15 JKU sahara. Only weird quality thing I've dealt with so far were some loose sport bar bolts that made noises when the jeep was brand new. Dealer finally figured out which ones needed to be torqued and all has been great since. I love the ride, the dual top option cannot be beat, it is quiet enough with either top. fuel mileage is not great but not horrible either and it is a blast to drive. Perhaps, the CR guys need to get out from behind the desk and go drive some JKs...
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It's crazy that this thread is even still going after the original posting 9 years ago. Personally I usually just avoid it and have no idea why it's a sticky that stays up in view just asking for people to post.
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Can I offer up that we remove the sticky on this thread? Is there really anything of value in it that should be kept? I don't know as I read the first few posts, which is where the good info in a "sticky" thread should be, and left.

There's 11 sticky threads getting in the way. This one was started over 9 years ago and the OP has only 9 total posts. Maybe a little spring cleaning?
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Last week at the barber shop, there was a dearth of reading material and I actually read a recent issue of CR that had reviews of "cars". The Jeep Wrangler (and all Jeeps) came in for their usual bashing. They had a rating of 20 (out of 100) for the JKU. Same complaints noisy, rough, steering wanders, etc.

Of course my beloved Sahara was out front, and yes it wanders a bit if your not paying attention, but that is the responsive steering. (Race cars do to, but then CR doesn't review them). It noted that there was wind noise and it was rough. Well they can be rough on roads that are not smooth, and I just turn the radio up.

I currently have two Jeeps and nothing else. I don't plan on changing anytime soon. BTW CR - they are not "cars".
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CR can suck it. Just because they don't accept ads and can claim to be "unbiased" doesn't mean that they know their arses from a hole in the ground. They're about as credible as snopes.com

I used to manage a stereo shop many years ago. We sold specialty brands that Joe Average hadn't heard of, but was better than what you'd get at the chain stores. The fact that we didn't sell the mainstream crap that CR reviewed actually kept a lot of people out of the store that weren't our demographic anyway so no big deal.

One year they reviewed a speaker that we sold as the top rated in it's class. The best thing about it is that there wasn't another dealer around for 100 miles. So I didn't have to compete on price. It wasn't a bad speaker but it was overpriced by about 2x, with a huge margin and we didn't usually sell very many of them. Well, the customers came in like crazy and we couldn't sell them fast enough. Sometimes people didn't even ask questions or want to hear them. They just came in and threw money at us. Goes to show how people can be so brainwashed by CR.
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CR can suck it. Just because they don't accept ads and can claim to be "unbiased" doesn't mean that they know their arses from a hole in the ground. They're about as credible as snopes.com

I used to manage a stereo shop many years ago. We sold specialty brands that Joe Average hadn't heard of, but was better than what you'd get at the chain stores. The fact that we didn't sell the mainstream crap that CR reviewed actually kept a lot of people out of the store that weren't our demographic anyway so no big deal.

One year they reviewed a speaker that we sold as the top rated in it's class. The best thing about it is that there wasn't another dealer around for 100 miles. So I didn't have to compete on price. It wasn't a bad speaker but it was overpriced by about 2x, with a huge margin and we didn't usually sell very many of them. Well, the customers came in like crazy and we couldn't sell them fast enough. Sometimes people didn't even ask questions or want to hear them. They just came in and threw money at us. Goes to show how people can be so brainwashed by CR.
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