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Old 10-29-2010, 01:01 AM   #61
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car&driver doesn't understand anything unless it's a Honda Accord or a BMW 3-series
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Look, it's really simple. I heard this phrase many times before I got mine and I always thought it was BS but it really is true.........
"a jeep is not a car, it's a lifestyle"

If you don't think so chances are you need to go out and get a life...............a jeep can do that for you by the way. Making memories one trail at a time.

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Look at the resale value of wranglers, and how many are on the road. I guarantee you there are loads more hondas and nissans on used lots than wranglers. The wrangler ranks on top of resale value for light trucks and suvs right behind the tacoma and just ahead of the 4-runner.
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If somebody steals a man's Camry during the night and replaces it with an Accord, he won't realize it until he tries to trade it in for a new Camry when he gets the pre-timed mailer from Toyota.

If somebody steals a man's Jeep during the night and replaces it with a Kia Sorrento, he will hunt the perpetrator down through tear-filled eyes, scouring the planet, leaving no stone unturned. And he will do it on foot, leaving the burning hulk of the Sorrento in the parking lot of the nearest Costco.
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If somebody steals a man's Camry during the night and replaces it with an Accord, he won't realize it until he tries to trade it in for a new Camry when he gets the pre-timed mailer from Toyota.

If somebody steals a man's Jeep during the night and replaces it with a Kia Sorrento, he will hunt the perpetrator down through tear-filled eyes, scouring the planet, leaving no stone unturned. And he will do it on foot, leaving the burning hulk of the Sorrento in the parking lot of the nearest Costco.
I couldn't agree more....I LOVE my Jeep...it has become one with me!!
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I never really understood the whole comment about a Jeep being part of a life style either...

I think I bought into a Cult :o

There must be something up with these friendly people that wave, and stop to talk to me in parking lots... :P

Disclaimer: The above is really meant to be rather sarcastic... and should not be taken seriously
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......don't buy a Jeep......if you are not passionate about owning a Wrangler you will be disappointed… when the top leaks you will complain….when you only get 15 mpg you will wine….when you hydra lock your engine running through a mud puddle you want to sue Chrysler…you are not jeep material......go buy a Toyota Camry.
Why is there ALWAYS someone on the board that responds like this every time someone asks a simple question?

STOP IT. You don't know him, you don't know how he thinks or what he likes. Stop pretending that you know what's best for a person that you have never met.

Meaningless, elitist posts like this only serve to turn people off to the Jeep experience and make the rest of us look bad. Just stop it.

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i think he means *IF* you are not passionate, not saying he isn't passionate. that's how i read it anyway.
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i think he means *IF* you are not passionate, not saying he isn't passionate. that's how i read it anyway.
Perhaps. But with his first phrase being "don't buy a jeep", I made the assumption that he was being ugly.
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Well, just to play devil's advocate, sometimes it really is a question of "if you have to ask the question, you wouldn't understand the answer".

The first time I ever got in a Jeep I could feel my beard growing and my bluejeans got tight. I was only 5 at the time and didn't understand. But I figured it out eventually.

Jeep people howl at the moon and enjoy life. They don't live in fear and plan their lives around it.
Jeep people prepare for zombies; we don't hide in the bunker.

My old boss was a Camry guy and gave me grief when I bought the Wrangler; he cited the Consumer Reports article. That fellow spent his weekends puttering around the house, sometimes going to a movie or out to dinner with the wife. He only went to safe places and only shopped at healthfood stores. He never ate bacon and only had a cookie when his wife wasn't around.

His boss came in my office a few months ago and asked me about life with the Wrangler. I told him how many miles it had on it already and he said, "between those miles and the scratches you've got on it, you've shot your resale value all to Hell; you're stuck with it."
Stuck with it??? Yeah, like I'm stuck with my wife.
It's my frickin' Jeep? Don't you get that? It's not my fridge, my toaster, my big-screen tv with 7.3 surround sound (which I love in 4th place...), it's my JEEP!


....sorry. I get like that sometimes.
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Well, just to play devil's advocate, sometimes it really is a question of "if you have to ask the question, you wouldn't understand the answer".

The first time I ever got in a Jeep I could feel my beard growing and my bluejeans got tight. I was only 5 at the time and didn't understand. But I figured it out eventually.

Jeep people howl at the moon and enjoy life. They don't live in fear and plan their lives around it.
Jeep people prepare for zombies; we don't hide in the bunker.

My old boss was a Camry guy and gave me grief when I bought the Wrangler; he cited the Consumer Reports article. That fellow spent his weekends puttering around the house, sometimes going to a movie or out to dinner with the wife. He only went to safe places and only shopped at healthfood stores. He never ate bacon and only had a cookie when his wife wasn't around.

His boss came in my office a few months ago and asked me about life with the Wrangler. I told him how many miles it had on it already and he said, "between those miles and the scratches you've got on it, you've shot your resale value all to Hell; you're stuck with it."
Stuck with it??? Yeah, like I'm stuck with my wife.
It's my frickin' Jeep? Don't you get that? It's not my fridge, my toaster, my big-screen tv with 7.3 surround sound (which I love in 4th place...), it's my JEEP!

....sorry. I get like that sometimes.
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My wife was very supportive of me getting a Wrangler. She knew I missed my CJ7. The first ime we went off road (2 months after buying it) she cringed as the brush scraped against it and shuddered at all the mud.

After driving on the beach with the top and doors off one day, she said, "I get it now." I had no idea what she was talking about and questioned what she said. She replied, " I get it, it's a Jeep thing. I can't explain it, but I know why other people don't understand unless they are here. It's a Jeep thing and they don't understand. Now it makes sense."

After that it was suddenly "our" Jeep and anyone with their top or doors on were held in disdain.
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We just purchased our JK, so maybe it's part of the "newness", but I can't wait to get my hands on it and hit the DRY pavement! I'm giddy thinking about snow for the first time in my adult life! This vehicle makes me smile just to look at her and gives me such a KICK when I drive I am definitely a convert....no regrets!!!!
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HD, you hit the nail on the head.
In the past year, I have made a conscious effort to break out of my "programming" that I NEED to have this and NEED to have that. That I NEED to put on a certain face and I NEED to be what people want me to be. Call it a "Fight Club moment of realization", lol. I was tired of trying to live to the standard idea of what most people think they need to be. I wasn't happy with it and I've now come to despise it.
It's not a "Jeep thing that you wouldn't understand", it's a reinvention of self and the Jeep is only a part of it because if I decide one morning that I want to disappear into the woods for a while, I can do it. My Jeep allows me to do that.
True, it is a possession and true, to a certain extent is does own me (at least until it's paid off), but the freedom it allows me is worth more than money.
People still programmed into what they think they need to be don't understand that. Maybe I'm still a head case and I know I'm socially awkward, but dammit, I'm going to do it on my terms. So, I just don't fit into the Consumer Reports cookie cutter world. What I say is good for me is good for me, not what someone else says.
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What I guess I'm objecting to is the fact that not everyone can have the experience of already having a Jeep. Everyone had to start somewhere, and you know what? I looked at the reviews before I bought my Jeep, and it was a cause of initial concern for me. I've never owned a Jeep before, so I can't come from this perspective of already understanding the "thing". Sometimes you have to learn the "thing" like me. And telling a new person that also didn't understand the "thing" that they should just go away and buy a Toyota Camry.... well, I think that's rude, and it's making assumptions about the person's character that may not be true.
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"They can have my Jeep when they pry it from my cold, dead hands."
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AMEN - to that.......
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Our annual "Country Fried Weekend" camping trip January, 2009. Not all Jeeps and I'm not a Jeep snob.
But, of the people who attended, we Jeepers had a knowing look about us. That we got it.





Now, here's a contrast type video.
A couple of Jeeps with solid axles and a couple of SUVs with more plush IFS. Please note around the 3:11 area.

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^^why I sold my Range Rover! I especially like the Unimogs, but I'll keep my Jeep since I need to commute occasionally.
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I've never figured out why people try to either attack weird obstacles from the side (The Range Rover guy) or actually try to drive into the deepest part of the obstacle (The Toyota guy) instead of just straddling it. I guess that takes all the fun out of it.

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Yeah, the last guy definitely took the worst possible line, but at least his rear window was clean.
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Did you hear Nick in the Toyota laughing hysterically to himself?
That hole was over 4' deep; as it turned out, the line that Charles picked (TJ) was the most successful. I had a fun and ugly slide... ...but I was guilty of wanting to straddle the preceding canyon for fun.
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sudden insight: Unimog with Alaskan!!! ....hmmmmmm......
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I had a similar situation as you HD, this past weekend. I suddenly heard my wife in the passenger seat say, "Uh, I'm looking out the window and seeing the ground."
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Yeah, the last guy definitely took the worst possible line, but at least his rear window was clean.
Yeah that guy in the lr3 was an idiot. I hate when people compare new lr3s to older land rovers. although my discovery 2 had more leaks than a nail filled tire, it was very, very capable and always got me home.
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Some one needs to let you borrow their Jeep for a week. Then you would fully understand. I look forward to driving to work every day. I look forward to driving home everyday. When the doors are off I look forward to 5:00 traffic. Every where I go I take the longest back roads I know of. It actually takes me about 20 mins to get home every day...... well its supposed to any ways. After I got my Jeep quote unquote, from my wife, what takes you so long to get home? The time it takes me to get home now is anywhere to 30 mins to an hour! Lol! At first she thought I was cheating on her. Witch I was....with my Jeep lol! Get one I promise there awesome. The after market world for a Jeep is freakin enormous and so freakin cheap its expensive! Just because you'll a nevering ending list of things that you'll want. Plus its the only vehicle that a guy can drive around with a Smiley face on it and not get made fun of. "Its a Jeep thang!"
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Some one needs to let you borrow their Jeep for a week. Then you would fully understand. I look forward to driving to work every day. I look forward to driving home everyday. When the doors are off I look forward to 5:00 traffic. Every where I go I take the longest back roads I know of. It actually takes me about 20 mins to get home every day...... well its supposed to any ways. After I got my Jeep quote unquote, from my wife, what takes you so long to get home? The time it takes me to get home now is anywhere to 30 mins to an hour! Lol! At first she thought I was cheating on her. Witch I was....with my Jeep lol! Get one I promise there awesome. The after market world for a Jeep is freakin enormous and so freakin cheap its expensive! Just because you'll a nevering ending list of things that you'll want. Plus its the only vehicle that a guy can drive around with a Smiley face on it and not get made fun of. "Its a Jeep thang!"
Was that a Freudian slip?

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It's alll about mindset. There are two classes of vehicle owners.

The class that buys and enjoys Jeeps is the sort that enjoys being involved with the vehicle. It's as much about the journey as the destination. My two vehicles are a JK Rubicon and a C6 Corvette. Obviously I enjoy being involved with my vehicles. Even though they are totally different, both give me tremendous pleasure in their own ways. I can't name which is my favorite. It's probably the one I happen to be driving!

The other class of vehicle owner is represented by Consumer Reports. This class doesn't enjoy the journey and can't wait to get to the destination. To people in this class any vehicle is just an appliance to get from point a to point b. They tend to drive white Honda Accords and Toyota Camrys. They text while driving because the chore of driving is such a bore and they frequently sport Obama bumper stickers.

Choose which you are and you will have the answer as to whether you should buy a Jeep. Oh, and yeah my Jeep has been trouble free!
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It's alll about mindset. There are two classes of vehicle owners.

The class that buys and enjoys Jeeps is the sort that enjoys being involved with the vehicle. It's as much about the journey as the destination. My two vehicles are a JK Rubicon and a C6 Corvette. Obviously I enjoy being involved with my vehicles. Even though they are totally different, both give me tremendous pleasure in their own ways. I can't name which is my favorite. It's probably the one I happen to be driving!

The other class of vehicle owner is represented by Consumer Reports. This class doesn't enjoy the journey and can't wait to get to the destination. To people in this class any vehicle is just an appliance to get from point a to point b. They tend to drive white Honda Accords and Toyota Camrys. They text while driving because the chore of driving is such a bore and they frequently sport Obama bumper stickers.

Choose which you are and you will have the answer as to whether you should buy a Jeep. Oh, and yeah my Jeep has been trouble free!
Oh come on!! Are you nuts??






They are BEIGE Accords and Camrys!!
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Oh come on!! Are you nuts??






They are BEIGE Accords and Camrys!!
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