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Old 12-30-2011, 03:01 PM   #1
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Converting JKU Fog Lights to Daytime Running Lights?

I'd like to have DRLs on the JKU. Some of the higher-end headlight swaps have DRL-ish Euro city-lights capabilities.

But in the interest of simplicity, why not wire the fog lights to fire up with the ignition, independent of the headlights?

The only downside I can see is that the fogs would be on day and night, which really isn't their purpose. But... Can do? Anybody try that?

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The procal can convert your headlights to daytime lites. That's all I've ever heard of.

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The procal can convert your headlights to daytime lites. That's all I've ever heard of.
From the procal user guide:

Notes: When DRL is enabled, the specified location’s lamps will light when the vehicle is in gear. The
lamp location options are Low Beams, Fog Lights and Turn Signals. The lamps are fed half the normal
voltage (roughly 6V) and will not affect normal operation of the vehicle’s lights. The DRL function is not a
replacement for nighttime vehicle lighting.

edit: the cheat-sheet says:low beam, high beam, fog lights, turn signals and European (same as turning your headlights on) and off.


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... why not wire the fog lights to fire up with the ignition, independent of the headlights?
Fogs + high beams = ticket in CA, don't know about NC or other states.
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Old 12-30-2011, 07:33 PM   #5
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Can't understand the concept of why fog lights can't be on with high beams. Anyone know why?
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Can't understand the concept of why fog lights can't be on with high beams. Anyone know why?
They blind oncoming traffic?
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Can't understand the concept of why fog lights can't be on with high beams. Anyone know why?
Regulators gotta regulate....

Cops gotta give tickets to raise revenue....

The more irrational the regulations, the more 'violator' ya fool...

Just guessing, though....
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They blind oncoming traffic?
I am always getting flashed with them on regardless. I know it can't be my headlights
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Since High Beams are designed for night use-WITH NO ONCOMING TRAFFIC and fog lights are designed for low speed use IN FOG--

What possible reason would any NORMAL driver want fog lights and High Beam lights on at the same time--remember I said NORMAL driver-

I don't consider jeep drivers NORMAL !

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I am always getting flashed with them on regardless. I know it can't be my headlights
Lol...jeeps have headlights?
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Since High Beams are designed for night use-WITH NO ONCOMING TRAFFIC and fog lights are designed for low speed use IN FOG--

What possible reason would any NORMAL driver want fog lights and High Beam lights on at the same time--remember I said NORMAL driver-

I don't consider jeep drivers NORMAL !

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1. I'm not 'normal'

2. Would love to be able to use highs and fogs at night on all the winding, hilly roads through forested country I drive regularly. High beams for the best distance coverage, fogs for the good peripheral view - you know - where the deer like to jump out from.....

3. Philips Xtreme +80 H13 bulbs are a good, legal alternative with their much improved light spread, especially to the near right side of the road.
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Old 12-30-2011, 08:07 PM   #12
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1. I'm not 'normal'

2. Would love to be able to use highs and fogs at night on all the winding, hilly roads through forested country I drive regularly. High beams for the best distance coverage, fogs for the good peripheral view - you know - where the deer like to jump out from.....

3. Philips Xtreme +80 H13 bulbs are a good, legal alternative with their much improved light spread, especially to the near right side of the road.
I could be mistaken...but I bet Hilldweller would say that the bright pool of light from the fogs actually DETRACTS from your vision when using high beams.
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I installed the Brite Box in my 2011 F250 and it will turn on ALL your lights (hi,low,fog) when on high beam. You can see great! I will be installing one on my '12 Sahara soon.

Check it: Innova Design & Distributing, Inc. - The Brite Box, Bulbzilla / Fogzilla, Diesel Turbo Lifesaver, Eclipse Sun Shade

As far as the OP question, the AEV procal module works great for turning your fogs into DRL
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I could be mistaken...but I bet Hilldweller would say that the bright pool of light from the fogs actually DETRACTS from your vision when using high beams.
It might, but the fact that that deer on the side of the road is now illuminated as opposed to hiding in the dark seems legitimate to me.

And I'd agree that jeepers may not be "normal" drivers but almost everyone who lives in new England and has fogs runs them ALL the time when their headlights are on regardless of whether there is fog. The way I see it, if "normal" drivers like fogs with low beams, they would probably like them with high beams too. More light, better Illumination
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I installed the Brite Box in my 2011 F250 and it will turn on ALL your lights (hi,low,fog) when on high beam. You can see great! I will be installing one on my '12 Sahara soon.

Check it: Innova Design & Distributing, Inc. - The Brite Box, Bulbzilla / Fogzilla, Diesel Turbo Lifesaver, Eclipse Sun Shade

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Is that even legal? And have you ever checked your rearview mirror and noticed enormous, smoking pileups in the oncoming lane in your wake?
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It might, but the fact that that deer on the side of the road is now illuminated as opposed to hiding in the dark seems legitimate to me.

And I'd agree that jeepers may not be "normal" drivers but almost everyone who lives in new England and has fogs runs them ALL the time when their headlights are on regardless of whether there is fog. The way I see it, if "normal" drivers like fogs with low beams, they would probably like them with high beams too. More light, better Illumination
I happen to agree with you, since I live in Wisconsin and know very few locals who have NOT hit deer. Just playing Devil's Advocate.

This place would be boring if everyone just agreed and moved on.
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Is that even legal? And have you ever checked your rearview mirror and noticed enormous, smoking pileups in the oncoming lane in your wake?
lol, No smoking pileups, but it defiantly helps with the deer and elk spotting at nite. Dont get me wrong, you still have to dim you lights to oncoming vehicles. After all...Its the LAW
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lol, No smoking pileups, but it defiantly helps with the deer and elk spotting at nite. Dont get me wrong, you still have to dim you lights to oncoming vehicles. After all...Its the LAW
Can you still dim the lights with the normal stalk controls, or is there a switch on the Brite Box? Looked at the link, but didn't read through it...
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Can you still dim the lights with the normal stalk controls, or is there a switch on the Brite Box? Looked at the link, but didn't read through it...
Yes the lights work as normal as far as the dimming and fog light controls on the stalk, but when you hit hi beam..BAM
It uses a seperate power source so the can bus doesnt even know its going on.
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As a motorcycle rider I hate DRLs and unplug on past vehicles my family has owned. People get use to seeing headlights in the day and then don't see them any longer thus endangering 2 wheelers. 1. If you're such a DA that you can't see a vehicle with out the aid of low watt DRLs, then you're license should be revoked. 2. If you want DRLs, turn on the headlight switch.
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It might, but the fact that that deer on the side of the road is now illuminated as opposed to hiding in the dark seems legitimate to me.

And I'd agree that jeepers may not be "normal" drivers but almost everyone who lives in new England and has fogs runs them ALL the time when their headlights are on regardless of whether there is fog. The way I see it, if "normal" drivers like fogs with low beams, they would probably like them with high beams too. More light, better Illumination
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Oh this works.

Hilldy did say something about running the fogs and something ..... Forget
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Fogs + high beams = ticket in CA, don't know about NC or other states.
DRL automatically switch off when the headlights are turned on, so I think the problem goes away by itself.
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Phone died what I miss?

Oh this works.

Hilldy did say something about running the fogs and something ..... Forget
A "splooge ball of light" he called the light from the fogs...I looked it up. Said it dilated your pupils and ruined your ability to see well beyond the edges of light.

Or something to that effect.
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A "splooge ball of light" he called the light from the fogs...I looked it up. Said it dilated your pupils and ruined your ability to see well beyond the edges of light.

Or something to that effect.
My pal GS bought the Phillips extremes. First thought was "ehhh" HW told him to stop using his fogs full time--he was used to doing so--it made a difference I guess.

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DRL automatically switch off when the headlights are turned on, so I think the problem goes away by itself.
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A "splooge ball of light" he called the light from the fogs...I looked it up. Said it dilated your pupils and ruined your ability to see well beyond the edges of light.

Or something to that effect.
Running Highs and fogs at the same time in a fog condition is counter productive. The high beams will just bounce back at you giving you zero visability. Foglights shoot low and flat to illuminate the area right in front of the vehicle. With highbeams on, you won't be able to see far enough to even see the road in front of you.
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Wonder if you can get the dealer to turn that on - fogs work with high beam here, great for twisty mountain runs at night. I should add that we are not allowed to use fogs unless visibility is poor - ie, fog! $125 on the spot fine for driving with the on in any other conditions, but since you cant use high beam with any other traffic around i cant see why it would be disabled anyways.
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Wonder if you can get the dealer to turn that on - fogs work with high beam here, great for twisty mountain runs at night. I should add that we are not allowed to use fogs unless visibility is poor - ie, fog! $125 on the spot fine for driving with the on in any other conditions, but since you cant use high beam with any other traffic around i cant see why it would be disabled anyways.
Yeah, that doesn't make a whole lotta sense. But you guys got some crazy laws.

Then again, you probably think we're all as retarded as our current crop of presidential candidates.
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Yeah, that doesn't make a whole lotta sense. But you guys got some crazy laws.

Then again, you probably think we're all as retarded as our current crop of presidential candidates.
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I prefer using fogs to determine the road surface conditions - seeing ice patches - while using high beams for long distance sight such as seeing deer. Guess the 55w fog lights may be bright but such a low pattern shouldn't affect oncoming drivers. And with our fogs being 24w they wouldn't blind anyone.

On mine if you keep the light stalk pulled forward in the flash to pass setting both high beams and fogs light but the computer takes over after a little bit and kills that usage until you restart the engine.
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The huge paper manual for the 2012's addresses DRL's. Says how to use them "if equipped". Anyone "equipped"?

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