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Old 08-26-2013, 04:25 PM   #1
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Could this be DW?

Hit a small manhole and the steering wheel quickly went back and forth for about a sec. Is this a telltale sign that DW is on its way?

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No, death wobble is violent and usually doesn't stop until you completely stop the vehicle. What you experienced is bump steer. What are your Jeep's specs?

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Old 08-26-2013, 05:15 PM   #3
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No, death wobble is violent and usually doesn't stop until you completely stop the vehicle. What you experienced is bump steer. What are your Jeep's specs?

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Camber bolts are known to get sloppy. I would be following Planman's sticky to a "T"
Check all your bolts especially those cam bolt and front track bar for wear/slop or ovaled holes.
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4" lift and no corection for steering geomentry....probably should consider a drag link flip kit.
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4" lift and no corection for steering geomentry....probably should consider a drag link flip kit.
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its a start. do yourself a favor and change out those damn fully threaded bolts or you will be in my situation. my 2013 has ovaled upper track bar bolts, ovaled left lower control arm bolts, blown a stabilizer, and worn a drag link end at 19k miles. also when I pulled the bolt out of my right LCA the threads were completely full of rust, not from the bolt but from the bolt trapping water causing my RK LCA's to corrode in the joint. full on death wobble on 37's is no fun at all.

I patch up the ovaled holes only for another one to oval out. think I am at the end though, its the rear hole on the track bar frame side that is causing it. knocks on wood.

at 1400 miles it is highly unlikely that anything has worn to the point that it will be a problem to fix.
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I don't mean to hijack the thread but quick question...

I have bumpsteer over large pot holes and bridge join sections. I have 285/70/17 tires, bilstein HD shocks, and tiny 3/4" coil spacers. It's a '13 wrangler that did not have bumpsteer stock. Can I assume these small mods have caused normal bumpsteer or should I be looking for something actually being wrong?
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Is this still necessary with an Adjustable Drag Link?

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4" lift and no corection for steering geomentry....probably should consider a drag link flip kit.
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Is this still necessary with an Adjustable Drag Link?

Never heard of a adjustable draglink..do you mean adjustable Track bar?

This is what you would eliminate the bump steer with along with the TB drop bracket.

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I don't mean to hijack the thread but quick question...

I have bumpsteer over large pot holes and bridge join sections. I have 285/70/17 tires, bilstein HD shocks, and tiny 3/4" coil spacers. It's a '13 wrangler that did not have bumpsteer stock. Can I assume these small mods have caused normal bumpsteer or should I be looking for something actually being wrong?

So no lift? Just spacers on stock coils? That shouldnt alone give you bump steer. I had a steering stablizer leaking fluid once tho that gave me issues. Maybe check that and ensure everything is tight up front.
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Is this still necessary with an Adjustable Drag Link?
You will notice a huge improvement in steering with a drag link flip kit. Having an adjustable track bar doesn't solve the issue. Anything with a 3"+ lift will see a difference. The EVO flip kit is excellent.
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quick question here, seems it could be related. I just put 33`s on my 2011 2-dr. I have noticed my steering wheel moving at 49-53 MPH, before and after this speed no movement. Stabilizer bad? any ideas?
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quick question here, seems it could be related. I just put 33`s on my 2011 2-dr. I have noticed my steering wheel moving at 49-53 MPH, before and after this speed no movement. Stabilizer bad? any ideas?
what tire pressure are you running?
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Never heard of a adjustable draglink..do you mean adjustable Track bar?
all drag links are adjustable. it's how you center the steering wheel
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Mine only wobbled when hitting a manhole and lasted about a second. Steering wheel went back and forth quickly like 4-5 times and stopped.

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quick question here, seems it could be related. I just put 33`s on my 2011 2-dr. I have noticed my steering wheel moving at 49-53 MPH, before and after this speed no movement. Stabilizer bad? any ideas?
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Mine only wobbled when hitting a manhole and lasted about a second. Steering wheel went back and forth quickly like 4-5 times and stopped.
If you are lifted more than 2.5", I'd do it.
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with A 4' lift you should have an adjustable front trackbar or your front diff will be off center by 1 3/4-2". This will cause bumpsteer. The factory trackbar is light and flexes a fair bit under the strain of 35s.
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with A 4' lift you should have an adjustable front trackbar or your front diff will be off center by 1 3/4-2". This will cause bumpsteer. The factory trackbar is light and flexes a fair bit under the strain of 35s.
It will shift but not that much. 2.5 lift is around 3/8 so maybe 1/2 or so.
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