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Old 06-14-2013, 08:53 AM   #1
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Does anyone know of a great shop in CT or MA area. Looking for a recommendation. Someone who really knows Jeep suspension, etc and someone you've had a great experience with.

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what exactly are you looking to have done? You have a problem? You need a lift? You want a new axle?

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Endangered in MA is good.

What do you need done? I am doing a lift on Sunday if you want to stop by.
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what exactly are you looking to have done? You have a problem? You need a lift? You want a new axle?
Lift. I'm doing my homework for a lift (2.5") for my JKUR. I have zero experience doing stuff like that...but would like to learn. I'm also a bit hesitant bc of the change to the suspension/drivetrain/steering geometry, even with a small lift. But I think I'd feel a lot better about it with a highly recommended shop that specializes in this stuff. Thanks for any feedback.
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Endangered in MA is good.

What do you need done? I am doing a lift on Sunday if you want to stop by.
Thanks man. I'd love to stop over. I'll PM you when I getta chance.
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Hi tech automotive in sterling ma is real good with jeeps he is also a member on this forum. He has built quite a bit of them also.
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Very easy stuff man. Gets hairy over 3" if the lift is not complete. Taking your time is key and even though its a smaller lift, loosening all the CA/TB bolts is important. You want the bushings to be set/torqued at the new ride height. What lift are you looking at ?
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Try drivers side in plainville MA great people to deal with and very knowledgeable!! They are out fitting jeeps all the time!!
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Very easy stuff man. Gets hairy over 3" if the lift is not complete. Taking your time is key and even though its a smaller lift, loosening all the CA/TB bolts is important. You want the bushings to be set/torqued at the new ride height. What lift are you looking at ?
Looking at AEV 2.5" and the Teraflex 2.5". I've read a bunch about both (mostly on this forum). Since its my daily driver and probably off-road once a month or so...I'm leaning towards AEV (but again, only bc I've heard that with the geometry brackets its the "best" on road).

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Yep... They will help a lot and enable you to keep the stock CA's.
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I have seen a number of really nice Jeeps in CT which have had their work done by Extreme Vehicle Builders in Danbury CT. I haven't had any personal dealings with them though.
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I really like the idea of installing a lift yourself. Getting to understand your suspension goes a long way if something goes wrong. There's always somebody on the forum who has knowledge and willing to jump at the opportunity to help.
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Sorry to slightly hijack, but since we're on the subject, can anyone recommend a mod-friendly Connecticut Jeep dealer? I purchased my JKU at Papa's in New Britain and although the purchase process was fine, when I eventually brought 'er in for warranty work I was very disappointed with their service. I don't even have any substantial mods but their service advisor kept asking me suspiciously about what I "had done" to the Jeep. It was clear that their primary mission over there is to establish that any defect is the customer's fault, so they can avoid doing warranty work.

I'm toying with the idea of eventually lifting, so I'd like it if I could go to a less fascist dealership in the state- even if someone could just recommend a dealer with good/friendly/polite/halfway-competent service, that would be a great step up from Papa's! Thanks.
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I bought my jeep there ^

Funny ... I remember asking if lifts will affect my warranty. I just wanted to see what they would say. They actually said NO.

They really can't deny you unless the lift directly affected what you're in for
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Sorry to slightly hijack, but since we're on the subject, can anyone recommend a mod-friendly Connecticut Jeep dealer? .
Valenti in mystic is an authorized AEV reseller. i know the manager of the service department there, i'm guessing they would be pretty mod friendly. they just sold a 60K+ AEV rig. I'm not saying buy AEV stuff from the dealer, but if they sell the stuff they should be levelheaded in repair of that sort of stuff.
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Sorry to slightly hijack, but since we're on the subject, can anyone recommend a mod-friendly Connecticut Jeep dealer? I purchased my JKU at Papa's in New Britain and although the purchase process was fine, when I eventually brought 'er in for warranty work I was very disappointed with their service. I don't even have any substantial mods but their service advisor kept asking me suspiciously about what I "had done" to the Jeep. It was clear that their primary mission over there is to establish that any defect is the customer's fault, so they can avoid doing warranty work.

I'm toying with the idea of eventually lifting, so I'd like it if I could go to a less fascist dealership in the state- even if someone could just recommend a dealer with good/friendly/polite/halfway-competent service, that would be a great step up from Papa's! Thanks.
I also just purchased my JKU at Papas, I also asked about a lift and they stated that if it was a Mopar lift, no warranty issues.

Wonder what they are going to say when I install my plow this winter? I asked,
'No issues" we have a lot of Jeeps with plow come in here"
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I also just purchased my JKU at Papas, I also asked about a lift and they stated that if it was a Mopar lift, no warranty issues.

Wonder what they are going to say when I install my plow this winter? I asked,
'No issues" we have a lot of Jeeps with plow come in here"
That's the biggest misconception on lifting and a outright lie by the dealership.
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Thanks for the replies. Maybe I caught Papa's on a bad day, but their attitude in the service department was markedly less friendly than in sales. Like I said, I don't even have major modifications but the service advisor seemed to be hunting for every single change I might have made- in areas that could not possibly have affected the issue I brought it in for.

I understand that they can only refuse warranty work where a modification caused a defect, but my concern with lifting is that a dealer can blame an awful lot of expensive issues on a lift. I have a lifetime power train warranty and I'm worried that a dealer will blame the lift and flag me if my transmission starts slipping/rear end gearing craps out/four wheel drive malfunctions in any way (all of these are problems I've had with previous Jeeps and other Chrysler vehicles).

I really only want a 2.5" lift and 33s, so I don't think that these sorts of problems would likely arise from my lift, but that doesn't mean that an especially jerky service dept (like Papa's seems to have) wouldn't try their best to blame the lift. If you read some of the horror stories on here about getting "flagged" by a dealer, it can really be a nightmare- even if the dealer is wrong.

Thanks for the tip about the place in Mystic. I am interested in an AEV lift so maybe I could get some assurance from them that they would honor my power train warranty if they installed it...
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I bought my jeep there ^

Funny ... I remember asking if lifts will affect my warranty. I just wanted to see what they would say. They actually said NO.

They really can't deny you unless the lift directly affected what you're in for
KJeeper, what part of Connecticut are you from? I'm in western Hartford County (Farmington/Avon/Canton/Simsbury/New Hartford area)
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Lift. I'm doing my homework for a lift (2.5") for my JKUR. I have zero experience doing stuff like that...but would like to learn. I'm also a bit hesitant bc of the change to the suspension/drivetrain/steering geometry, even with a small lift. But I think I'd feel a lot better about it with a highly recommended shop that specializes in this stuff. Thanks for any feedback.
Do yourself a BIG favor....do you have a garage at home? Post in the MA section, and cater a Jeep party...a few pizzas, some beers, maybe some BBQ ribs, and watch Jeepers crawl out of the woodwork. Im sure there will be a number of guys that will be glad to help you, and you can actually learn how to do things on your own right, not to mention, save a ton of money. Jeeps are very easy to work on, all you need is patience and some brute force. Jeepers run on beer and pizza, so when they smell some free pizza, they come-a-runnin.
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Sorry to slightly hijack, but since we're on the subject, can anyone recommend a mod-friendly Connecticut Jeep dealer? I purchased my JKU at Papa's in New Britain and although the purchase process was fine, when I eventually brought 'er in for warranty work I was very disappointed with their service. I don't even have any substantial mods but their service advisor kept asking me suspiciously about what I "had done" to the Jeep. It was clear that their primary mission over there is to establish that any defect is the customer's fault, so they can avoid doing warranty work.

I'm toying with the idea of eventually lifting, so I'd like it if I could go to a less fascist dealership in the state- even if someone could just recommend a dealer with good/friendly/polite/halfway-competent service, that would be a great step up from Papa's! Thanks.
My advice...keep your mouth shut. If they are asking, that means they don't know squat. Tell them you didn't do anything and keep it moving.
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KJeeper, what part of Connecticut are you from? I'm in western Hartford County (Farmington/Avon/Canton/Simsbury/New Hartford area)
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Do yourself a BIG favor....do you have a garage at home? Post in the MA section, and cater a Jeep party...a few pizzas, some beers, maybe some BBQ ribs, and watch Jeepers crawl out of the woodwork. Im sure there will be a number of guys that will be glad to help you, and you can actually learn how to do things on your own right, not to mention, save a ton of money. Jeeps are very easy to work on, all you need is patience and some brute force. Jeepers run on beer and pizza, so when they smell some free pizza, they come-a-runnin.
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Do yourself a BIG favor....do you have a garage at home? Post in the MA section, and cater a Jeep party...a few pizzas, some beers, maybe some BBQ ribs, and watch Jeepers crawl out of the woodwork. Im sure there will be a number of guys that will be glad to help you, and you can actually learn how to do things on your own right, not to mention, save a ton of money. Jeeps are very easy to work on, all you need is patience and some brute force. Jeepers run on beer and pizza, so when they smell some free pizza, they come-a-runnin.
Thanks for the info. I do have a 2 car garage...where the beer flows like wine and pizza is abundant. From your experience, is a 2.5" lift a long day...or a two day project?
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i'll come help, dibs on stock shocks? i can't say as far as time needed. i suppose it would depend on what kit you're interested in. i haven't had my jk apart yet.
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Thanks for the info. I do have a 2 car garage...where the beer flows like wine and pizza is abundant. From your experience, is a 2.5" lift a long day...or a two day project?
If you have two extra peeps helping you, assuming you don't drink a case of beer each, it is EASILY a one day project....provided you don't get any kit that requires cutting, welding, whatever. A bolt on kit should take about 6-8 hours if everyone is a noob. If you have a guy that knows what they are doing, they can do it in 4. Having the proper tools will speed things up, as will some extra assistance things...like 2 extra jacks.

I can (by myself) strip and droop both axles in under an hour. Having two floorjacks will obviously help since you can strip both axles at the same time. 4 jackstands to pick the rig up. A good set of ratchets (2 sets will speed things up as you can work on both axles at the same time), a breaker bar (use the top half of the jack handle), and the appropriate sockets will prevent you from having to do Home Depot runs, which eat 1 hour each. One guy that knows what they are doing to guide the entire process will speed it up considerably...telling the other two under each axle "remove this bolt, take this off, pry that off, etc. If anyone has a good powerful impact driver that will help speed things along as well.
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My advice...keep your mouth shut. If they are asking, that means they don't know squat. Tell them you didn't do anything and keep it moving.
Haha thanks but I think if I roll in with a 2.5" AEV lift and 33" duratracs it won't help much to keep my mouth shut!
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Haha thanks but I think if I roll in with a 2.5" AEV lift and 33" duratracs it won't help much to keep my mouth shut!
you would be VERY VERY surprised. The lift they won't notice. I rolled into my dealership with my 2" and the didn't notice squat. They did try to blame my duratracs on a problem that didn't actually exist, but I then quickly made them feel stupid by telling them that they are the same diameter and weight of the OEM Rubicon setup, but they look bigger because it's a 15" wheel rather than a 17", and there is more rubber on the profile. They quickly understood that they can't BS me, and finished what they were doing. Im not going to hijack this thread, but just so you understand the incompetence of modern mechanics (that don't know anything and rely solely on computers to spit out a code to tell them the problem)...I had a noise coming from my front end...like a rubbing metal noise...sort of like a bearing/shearing noise between 40-60mph. Here is the chronology...

1) Mechanic 1 takes it out...doesn't hear anything. He drove it around the parking lot and I specifically told him to take it on the road and above 40.

2) Mechanic 1 grabs Mechanic 2 and they go for a ride....they come back and they "hear the noise."

3) Mechanic 1, 2, 3, and shop manager take a ride again. They hear the noise.

4) They bring it back, put it on the lift, and run it dangling in the air....no noise since there is no load on anything....they claim they still hear the noise...from the REAR.

5) Mechanics 1,2,3,4 and manager come and tell me that it's my rear diff. Keep in mind, I just put on a cover a week ago, and changed the fluid, so I KNEW the diff is perfect.

6) Manager proceeds to blame my tires. I tell him he's full of sh!t and call him out on it.

7) He pretends that he's gonna do me a favor and just this once fix my problem. They ordered a brand new axle assembly...$3000 worth.

8) Leave my jeep. A week later, I pick it up. Take it out, noise is still there. Pop a u turn, bring it back, flip out. Mechanic 1,2,3,4,5, and manager all baffled. I had a Moab trip in 2 days, I told them to forget it, and left on my 6000 mile roadtrip. Came back from Moab, all is well. Dealership wasted $3000 of chrysler's money for absolutely no reason.

Trust me, the dealers do not have a clue about anything.
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We can tackle a lift in less then a day (6 hours)

I had my RK rear coils in in less then 45 minutes
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Just make sure it's good pizza. The quality of pizza is directly related to the quality of the install. I hear Frank Pepe's is good. Domino's ain't gonna cut it.

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