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Old 06-17-2011, 06:37 AM   #1
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Daniel stern and cibie headlights

I just put in my new Cibie headlight setup after getting the packages in the mail the other day. Minor problem with the wiring harness, but no big issues otherwise. Had a couple of smart friends who helped me out in that regard. Thanks guys. Wow, what a difference over stock! Who needs hid? The whole setup went in pretty much without a hitch. Very impressive and happy with my purchase. Thanks Daniel!!

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Old 06-17-2011, 07:38 AM   #2
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Good choice on getting these lights and the wiring harness. I have the same setup and am very happy with it. Initially I had some issues with the new bulbs burining out too quickly, but I contacted Daniel and he resolved them very quickly.

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[snip] Initially I had some issues with the new bulbs burining out too quickly, but I contacted Daniel and he resolved them very quickly.
What caused the bulbs to burn out prematurely?
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pics of the light output?
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pics link and price please
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What caused the bulbs to burn out prematurely?
I am not 100% sure what caused it in my case, but Daniel Stern said it would likely be caused by a couple of reasons -

1. Offroad use that causes the bulbs to shake excessively, thereby breaking the filaments. This was not an issue for me since I had not yet taken my Jeep offroad at that point. I have taken it offroad more recently though and the bulbs have held up fine.

2. Leaving the headlights on while turning on or shutting off the engine. This may have been a factor since the factory setup turns the headlights on
when using the key fob to remotely unlock the doors. I had the dealer disable this feature so that only the parking lights flash when unlocking the door and the headlights do not come on. Now I make sure the lights are off before shutting off or turning on the engine.

To Daniel's credit, he was very responsive over email and sent out new bulbs to replace the ones that prematurely burnt out. Good customer service.

Also keep in mind since these bulbs are so bright, their life expectancy will be much shorter than the factory bulbs. So I try not to leave the lights on unless I really need them. Overall I'm very pleased with the setup.
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I don't have any pics yet because I just put them in and would like to aim them properly first. Prices vary because there is no "kit". He will custom design a set up based on your needs and wants. It's best to talk to him in person. He's a great guy and very knowledgeable. Prices for the housings are about 75 each (150/pair). Bulbs from 9 to 22. Wiring harness if you choose varies in price depending on if you do the work yourself or not. But, talk to Daniel, he'll help you out.
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The stock headlight circuit is pulsing the lights from 4.6v to 12.68v; they last a long time.
Hotter bulbs with jazzy filiments burning at a full 13.8v can't last as long. Simple physics.
But you sure can see now, can't you? There's no other single safety improvement that matches this one for the JK. I'd rather change my bulbs twice a year than hit another deer.
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I just put in my new Cibie headlight setup after getting the packages in the mail the other day. Minor problem with the wiring harness, but no big issues otherwise. Had a couple of smart friends who helped me out in that regard. Thanks guys. Wow, what a difference over stock! Who needs hid? The whole setup went in pretty much without a hitch. Very impressive and happy with my purchase. Thanks Daniel!!
what was the problem with the wiring harness?

I've got this same setup but I haven't had time to install yet.
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One of the terminal points in the low beam block had come loose and wasn't making contact with one of the blades on the relay. This was giving me high beams, but no low beams. After a bunch of trouble shooting, we figured this out and reassembled everything. Now it works just fine. :0)
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Danielsternlighting.com. A schwack of reading, but well worth it.
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One of the terminal points in the low beam block had come loose and wasn't making contact with one of the blades on the relay. This was giving me high beams, but no low beams. After a bunch of trouble shooting, we figured this out and reassembled everything. Now it works just fine. :0)
Thanks, I'll make sure to check that out if I have any probs.

Also, I'm assuming that the light pattern will be different than stock so re-aiming using the normal 25' technique will have to be done?
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There's no other single safety improvement that matches this one for the JK.
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Thanks, I'll make sure to check that out if I have any probs.

Also, I'm assuming that the light pattern will be different than stock so re-aiming using the normal 25' technique will have to be done?
The email Daniel stern sends you has a suggestion of getting them aligned electronically at a shop, but he also gives instruction on the best way to do them manually too. I haven't aimed mine yet, but they're pretty close to bang on as it is.
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The email Daniel stern sends you has a suggestion of getting them aligned electronically at a shop, but he also gives instruction on the best way to do them manually too. I haven't aimed mine yet, but they're pretty close to bang on as it is.
In all honesty, if a shop aims them, it won't work any better in practice than the 25' white wall technique. It would for a Camry or something, but Jeeps have lots of suspension travel and our loads change almost every time we're out. It's just about impossible to get it perfect for every situation.
Put a load in the Jeep that's about average, 1/2 tank of gas, your sweetie in the shotgun seat, and put some tape on a wall like it says on Dan Stern's website. Fiddle around with it from there and you'll be good.

The Cibies are wonderful once they're aimed. The Hella kits out-shine them in a straight line but lack the side-to-side range. The Hellas are also a little annoying, providing too much foreground light on lowbeam and aiming a bit too high on highbeam.
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Finally installed these tonight with Philips X-Treme Power H4 bulbs. The wiring harness and headlight install was straightforward. One minor issue, on the wiring harness, the trigger wire wouldn't snap properly into the factory headlight plug, no matter how many times I tried. I ended up using some electrical tape to make sure they wouldn't come loose.

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The email Daniel stern sends you has a suggestion of getting them aligned electronically at a shop, but he also gives instruction on the best way to do them manually too. I haven't aimed mine yet, but they're pretty close to bang on as it is.
I aimed using the e-code bulb specs, compared to factory these had to come down quite a bit.

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