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Old 02-12-2013, 08:48 AM   #1
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deal or no deal?

So I just stopped by the dealership yesterday to talk to the parts guy. Been buggin' him for a couple weeks about getting a parts list and their cost (including labor) together before my new JKUR arrives. On my way thru the showroom I see the sales guy and ask if he can get a more specific update to where my jeep is... all I see online is "shipping." He says sure.
10 mins later as I wait in line at the parts area he comes up and says," found it. Its here, ya wanna go see it?" Oh hell yes! So we go and its nice...
I go back to the parts guy to see his bid and that is where I'm not thrilled or certain. I made a good deal on the jeep and I want to roll some of the cost for mods into the loan... less money out of pocket directly (I know I have to pay it all anyway) and that seems more favorable to the wife.
Here is the rub. They say they can't beat the price list I gave them for the parts from an online vendor - ok I guess I can believe that.
They say it will cost nearly $900 in freight but they got the supplier to agree to $300 flat - ok but as I was working it, I can get most of it here for less than $70.
Don't forget I have to pay tax (6%) if I buy it thru them and none online.
Their cost to install both new bumpers (Body Armor front, Highrock rear) is $240 and the 2.5 lift (TF w/shocks) labor is $700. That seems kinda high to me for swaping out springs and shocks.
Last thing that sits weird is the tire and wheel deal. They will mount and balance my new wheel/tire with pressure sensors and they are offering $500 credit for my new rubicon tires and wheels... is that really low?
So, what do you think. I'm in a rush now the jeep is here. We are doing the paperwork later today or tomorrow at the latest and I have to decide - role some, part or none of the mod costs into the loan.
Thanks for your thoughts.

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Old 02-12-2013, 09:07 AM   #2
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My dealer offered me $1000 for my Rubi tires and wheels.

That said, the other prices seem in line with what dealers charge.

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Old 02-12-2013, 09:08 AM   #3
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DON'T DO ANYTHING AT THE STEALERSHIP

Support your local 4x4 shop or order online to get the best deal, then install yourself. It's really easy and fun, and also a great way to make Jeep buddies. There are probably a bunch of guys online that would help out for just a couple beers

$500 is WAY low for new Rubi wheels and tires. I sold mine for $750 WITH ROCK RASH all over the face of 4 of them. Around here they fetch $1,000-1,200 for all 5 new. They also sell quite quickly.
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Also, I rolled mod money into my loan and am very happy with that decision.
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Old 02-12-2013, 09:17 AM   #5
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So pretty much the only benefit you'll get from getting the work done at the stealership is you can finance it as part of your loan.

Do you have cash in hand to get it done elsewhere? Do it yourself with some buddies?
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build it yourself. get a credit card just for jeep mods. put something on it. pay it off get something else. bumpers are retard proof to install. even a lift can be done in the drive way in an hour or two.
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build it yourself. get a credit card just for jeep mods. put something on it. pay it off get something else. bumpers are retard proof to install. even a lift can be done in the drive way in an hour or two.
I do something like this.
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Thanks for the input guys. I have built a couple trucks and a jeep before so that is my first thought... but the new job has me very busy so I'll have to take leave for a couple days to work on it. haha
I do have the money to do it seperately but that tips my hand to the Mrs about the thousands I spent on a brand new jeep... actually she knows me so that won't be a big shocker I guess. besides, she is behind me all the way on this purchase and build.

I guess I'll be posting some new Rubicon tires and wheels for sale in the near future.

thanks.
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240 bucks is 3 hours labor at 80 per - about the going rate around here. That's ridiculous to install a set of bumpers. And you're getting hooked up for 9 hours worth of labor on the lift. Again, ridiculous.

It sounds like they're looking to make up the lost profit on the parts by gouging you on the install. For reference, a Rally Pit Crew can do a complete swap of all suspension components, brakes, transmission, tires, wheels and essential fluids in about 30 minutes using but floor jacks, hand and impact tools - for a total of about three man hours (depending on the crew). Is your dealer going to be at the same level?

Clearly not, but the idea that they claim that much labor for what is a pretty basic install borders on a breach of integrity unless they are planning on doing a lot of fab work on your Jeep I am just unfamiliar with.

You'd really benefit from taking the opportunity to involve yourself as much in the install as possible - you'll learn a bunch. After all, what it really boils down to is removing a few bolts, disconnecting a few fasteners, lifting the Jeep and swapping a handful of parts that a direct fit replacement - then refasten and retorque. If you're anything like me, it'll take you a while to muddle through it on your own (hint: get friends to help), but you come away with a good understanding of your first Jeep.
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i and 2 friends can install a jk lift in 2 hours with a case a beer and just what i carry in my tool bag when we go wheeling.
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too bad GA is so far... I can afford a case (or even 2). ha
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So pretty much the only benefit you'll get from getting the work done at the stealership is you can finance it as part of your loan.

Do you have cash in hand to get it done elsewhere? Do it yourself with some buddies?
WAIT WAIT WAIT is this your reason for wanting to go thought the dealer?!?

Have the dealer write you a check for a few thousand and roll it into the loan! That's what mine did.... Added 3k to the "car price" and then handed me a check for 3k. Ordered my parts online and did the work myself. Whalah!
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2 cases would probably do it.
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Have the dealer write you a check for a few thousand and roll it into the loan! That's what mine did.... Added 3k to the "car price" and then handed me a check for 3k. Ordered my parts online and did the work myself. Whalah!

now we're thinking outside the box!

But I wonder how the dealer explained that to his tax attorney?
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ya I'm pretty sure that's illegal... good if you got away with it but that's the kind of stuff that could cost me my clearance and then my job. :-( Now that I've decided to buy on my own, I kinda psyched to do the work myself. That way I know its done right. That piece of mind is worth alot when it really counts in the mountains.
Going to pick it up tonight after son's b-ball game. kinda sad to see the ecoboost platinum go tho... and I'm over it! haha
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Dealers do cash back deals all the time. I used to remember commercials that say get a new ride for 0% interest or $1,500 cash back. I'm sure the amount can be tweaked to whatever.
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Old 02-12-2013, 03:30 PM   #17
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It's not shady at all. I doubt a dealer would risk doing an illegal transaction to sell one Jeep and risk much more serious problems legally if caught.

Ask the dealer. I'm sure you're not the first. I think mine was written up as "vehicle accessories" on the loan.... no lie there. Just a thought.
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VooDoo, congrats on the Jeep. Where are you located?
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Old 02-12-2013, 11:51 PM   #19
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she's home

Well its official... The new girlfriend is home safe and sound. The true blue is pretty nice. The deal went down just fine. I made out ok on it and have some $ left over to start ordering parts. I've built trucks and jeeps and motox bikes/sleds so this isn't a big deal AND I like pulling wrenches. Just have to take a couple days of leave to get it done.

The dealership is Larry H Miller in Boise ID. The sales guy is Chris and they treated me really well and we both got a fair deal, I think.

K off to look at parts and maybe make a couple late night orders. Thanks for the the words early on the thread. The common cents kicked in after reading your words and I knew the right thing to do.

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Congrat!

When i was shopping for wrangler, local dealer told me $5000 for aftermarket rims/tires and another 1k for lift. I was like hell no!

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