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Old 01-13-2013, 07:54 AM   #1
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Deflate/Inflate tires

Just was up at Rausch Creek and they deflated our tires for the trail and then re inflated them when we left. Since all my trips won't be to Rausch Creek, I'm wondering what others use for doing this.

I'd like to make this the next thing I equip my Jeep.

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For deflating, I have the Smittybilt deflators. You set them to the desired pressure when you get them, then when you use them, just screw it on to the valve stem and it will deflate down to the pressure you set all on its own.

For inflating, I've done a couple things. I bought a small compressor at first. They are sold under various names such as Tsunami, Master-Flow, etc. I got it at Pep Boys for about $50, worked pretty well, just takes a bit. When I went up to 33's the compressor still worked but was taking much longer. At that point I got a Powertank, which works much better. I have the 10lb model, which gives me probably 4-5 refills of all 4 tires. It costs about $20 to get it filled at the local paintball place in Chantilly. The other advantage of the tank is that you can actually run air tools or reseat a bead if need be.

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After doing a bunch of research I bought the Staun set. A little more expensive but great reviews. I haven't had a chance to use them yet...

I like that I can just screw them in & they deflate to a set point. I dont have to keep checking on them, and I can do all 4 at once. I think they'll work nicely with my '13's TPMS.

And for inflating I'm usually with a crew that has a few people with on board air & will either air me back up or at least enough to get to a nearby gas station to do the rest. But I'd love OBA!
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As you can tell, there are allot of options out there.
Here's what works for me:

Deflation: Currie E-Z Tire Deflator (~$30 from various places)
Advantages: You can deflate to what ever pressure want at the time. It can also act as a pressure guage.
Disadvantages: You can only do one tire at a time.
Note: I'm thinking about going with a set of deflators to be able to air-down all the tires at once, but hey, I got my currie from a friend for free so you can't beat the price.



Inflation: Viar Heavy Duty air pump installed under the hood. (~$375 from Air Werkz, a vendor here)
Advantages: You always have an air pump available and because it's installed under the hood and you can't forget to take it on the trail.
Disadvantages: The installation and wiring took a little bit and it's not really fast (~3 min per tire)

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I use the Currie deflator pictured above. It is QUICK when airing down a tire. But as stated you can only do one at a time.

For airing up I bought a Master Flow MV1050 for $40 and it gets the job done. Takes about 3-4 mins per tire.
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The currie deflator is as good as it gets and they only run about 30 bucks.
For inflating, a lot of hard core guys run powertanks. Its a simple design, easily removable and no motors to worry about.
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I can't recommend the Smittybilt or Staun deflators, they're remarkably slow and inconsistent. Since I'm going from ~28psi down to 4psi, I remove the valve core to air down and just recheck it. I'll be going to tractor air valves pretty soon though [cheaper Monster Valves]. I use co2 to air up.
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The currie deflator is as good as it gets and they only run about 30 bucks.
For inflating, a lot of hard core guys run powertanks. Its a simple design, easily removable and no motors to worry about.
I was looking at the power tank. Do you really use co2?
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I don't run one yet, but it does use co2. On a full tank you can inflate a 35" tire somewhere in the range of 40 times, maybe more, which is impressive given the compact size. When I do add on board air I will go with a power tank.
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For deflating, I have the Smittybilt deflators. You set them to the desired pressure when you get them, then when you use them, just screw it on to the valve stem and it will deflate down to the pressure you set all on its own.

For inflating, I've done a couple things. I bought a small compressor at first. They are sold under various names such as Tsunami, Master-Flow, etc. I got it at Pep Boys for about $50, worked pretty well, just takes a bit. When I went up to 33's the compressor still worked but was taking much longer. At that point I got a Powertank, which works much better. I have the 10lb model, which gives me probably 4-5 refills of all 4 tires. It costs about $20 to get it filled at the local paintball place in Chantilly. The other advantage of the tank is that you can actually run air tools or reseat a bead if need be.
Any advantage to using CO2? This sounds like a good option. I'd rather have an onboard compressor, but it sounds like they are slow at refilling.

Where is the paintball shop in Chantilly? Do they refill or exchange? I have a 20lb CO2 tank I fill for my beer kegs. Would like to find a closer place to refill.
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I can't recommend the Smittybilt or Staun deflators, they're remarkably slow and inconsistent. Since I'm going from ~28psi down to 4psi, I remove the valve core to air down and just recheck it. I'll be going to tractor air valves pretty soon though [cheaper Monster Valves]. I use co2 to air up.
do you have a link to these? is the install the same as monsters (having to drill and tap?) i have the cheap smitty tire deflators. they work in terms of they let air out, but i still do a walk around to check the psi since they are never consistant or accurate. not really the end of the world, in a race against guys with the ARB i am always aired down first, but still. the monster valves seem awesome.

for inflating, if I went back in time and did it all over again, I would go co2. a nice 15 or 20# tank would fit nicely in the 4door. I think the only issue I see with co2 is that before doing anything, you need to find a place that will refill/tank exchange with you, and make sure you dont get ripped off. I like my viair setup alot, but it still takes like 10-20 minutes to air up. In the end, it doesnt matter since we are always shooting the shit after a run anyways, but it would be nice to just get aired up instantly.

a york setup would also be amazing
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Any advantage to using CO2? This sounds like a good option. I'd rather have an onboard compressor, but it sounds like they are slow at refilling.

Where is the paintball shop in Chantilly? Do they refill or exchange? I have a 20lb CO2 tank I fill for my beer kegs. Would like to find a closer place to refill.
They will refill. It's Check-It Paintball. They are in the shopping center where Subway and Minerva is on Rt. 50 between Lee Rd and Avion Parkway.

The CO2 is really fast at refilling. One thing to think about is the main dealio costwise on the Powertank is the regulator. If you already have a CO2 tank, you could just get the regulator and take it with you wheeling. Just a thought.
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do you have a link to these? is the install the same as monsters (having to drill and tap?) i have the cheap smitty tire deflators. they work in terms of they let air out, but i still do a walk around to check the psi since they are never consistant or accurate. not really the end of the world, in a race against guys with the ARB i am always aired down first, but still. the monster valves seem awesome.

for inflating, if I went back in time and did it all over again, I would go co2. a nice 15 or 20# tank would fit nicely in the 4door. I think the only issue I see with co2 is that before doing anything, you need to find a place that will refill/tank exchange with you, and make sure you dont get ripped off. I like my viair setup alot, but it still takes like 10-20 minutes to air up. In the end, it doesnt matter since we are always shooting the shit after a run anyways, but it would be nice to just get aired up instantly.

a york setup would also be amazing
I have no link as of yet, we are still piecing together a system. Yes there will be drilling into the wheel. After we get done with the little project, that ARB will be much slower
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Any advantage to using CO2? This sounds like a good option. I'd rather have an onboard compressor, but it sounds like they are slow at refilling.

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Its like most everything else, you get what younpay for. A cheap compressor takes a while and most of the more expensive ones do a way better job. I am running the ARB duel setup and it takes about a min and a half to air up a 37 from 8lb to 27ld without a tank.

As far as airing down goes I just pull the valve and be done with it. Wayyy faster then anything else.

I haul way to much crap around in my jeep to even think about having a co2 tank to worry about.
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They will refill. It's Check-It Paintball. They are in the shopping center where Subway and Minerva is on Rt. 50 between Lee Rd and Avion Parkway.

The CO2 is really fast at refilling. One thing to think about is the main dealio costwise on the Powertank is the regulator. If you already have a CO2 tank, you could just get the regulator and take it with you wheeling. Just a thought.
Wouldn't want my beer to go flat. Interesting thought though.
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Its like most everything else, you get what younpay for. A cheap compressor takes a while and most of the more expensive ones do a way better job. I am running the ARB duel setup and it takes about a min and a half to air up a 37 from 8lb to 27ld without a tank.

As far as airing down goes I just pull the valve and be done with it. Wayyy faster then anything else.
I was looking at the ARB dual setup. Where does it mount? The 2013 jk engine bay is limited on space
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I was looking at the ARB dual setup. Where does it mount? The 2013 jk engine bay is limited on space
I have seen people run mount them under the front seat and it works great . I couldn't go this rought since I have a battery under one and stoor stuff under the other You can also mount them under the jeep somewhere but this didnt work for me eather since I only have room to mount a tank when I get around to it.

I ended up mounting mine on the fender well and it just has a quick connect for now. I keep my hose and chuck in the cubby in the back.
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A simple set of screw in tyre deflators works fine as long as you have a gauge to check them as they go down. For reflating I use an ARB - not the fastest but had it for years and still going
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Trailready deflators. Come as a set of 4, work well, easy to adjust, accurate and cheap.
Viair (pretty sure it's the 450p) 1.66 cfm continuos duty. Fills 37 from 12 to 22 in about 5-6 minutes, usually takes about 20 mins to air up.
CO2 is nice, fast, dry and better at running air tools but you need a good place to fill it that is cheap and open when you are available. Plus you can't top up a tank, so some folks take a compressor anyway, if they aren't comfortable with the reserve they have in the tank.
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Just was up at Rausch Creek and they deflated our tires for the trail and then re inflated them when we left. Since all my trips won't be to Rausch Creek, I'm wondering what others use for doing this.

I'd like to make this the next thing I equip my Jeep.
Dan what did you air down to?
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Trailready deflators. Come as a set of 4, work well, easy to adjust, accurate and cheap.
Viair (pretty sure it's the 450p) 1.66 cfm continuos duty. Fills 37 from 12 to 22 in about 5-6 minutes, usually takes about 20 mins to air up.
CO2 is nice, fast, dry and better at running air tools but you need a good place to fill it that is cheap and open when you are available. Plus you can't top up a tank, so some folks take a compressor anyway, if they aren't comfortable with the reserve they have in the tank.
Which ever way I go. Definitely some sort or redundancy for inflating is a must. So I'm gonna get one of those cheap inflators and either a tank or compressor.

The ability to bring air tools also seems like a good idea. The one thing I figured out from the trip yesterday is that tires and lift are not as important right now as being prepared. My JKUR went everywhere with little trouble. Tools and more armor are my priorities before looks and height.
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Dan what did you air down to?
They dropped all our tires to 15 lbs.
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One cost that seems to be forgotten with co2 is the price of having the tank inspected and certified every few years. Without that they cannot be legally filled.
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One cost that seems to be forgotten with co2 is the price of having the tank inspected and certified every few years. Without that they cannot be legally filled.
Price is pretty negligable unless you're going out every weekend. $14 gets me 20# of co2 and will fill up nearly flat 37s 3-4 times. I think tank recert is $24 every 5 years....so $5 per year. So if I go out once every 2 months, it'll cost me $33 per year [$5.50 per trip] to run co2. I have the volume to run air tools, set beads and take the system completely out when not going to the trails. I have about $100 invested in the entire system.

To me, it's worth having the volume of a co2 tank and not having air leaks, storing an air tank to still have a crappy electric OBA system. co2 will beat out any OBA unless it's a York setup and you don't have to haul/store the OBA 24/7.

Just my opinion however..
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Price is pretty negligable unless you're going out every weekend. $14 gets me 20# of co2 and will fill up nearly flat 37s 3-4 times. I think tank recert is $24 every 5 years....so $5 per year. So if I go out once every 2 months, it'll cost me $33 per year [$5.50 per trip] to run co2. I have the volume to run air tools, set beads and take the system completely out when not going to the trails. I have about $100 invested in the entire system.

To me, it's worth having the volume of a co2 tank and not having air leaks, storing an air tank to still have a crappy electric OBA system. co2 will beat out any OBA unless it's a York setup and you don't have to haul/store the OBA 24/7.

Just my opinion however..
$100? The powertanks are about $500. Did you put your own system together?
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"I think tank recert is $24 every 5 years....so $5 per year."

Good price on a recert!
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$100? The powertanks are about $500. Did you put your own system together?
Good lord, they must have gone up. I paid about $300 for my 10 lb setup with hose and tank boot. Of course that was 5 years and 3 Jeeps ago...
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Good lord, they must have gone up. I paid about $300 for my 10 lb setup with hose and tank boot. Of course that was 5 years and 3 Jeeps ago...
10lb basic setup is $379. You add all the other goodies you're looking at abou $500. I do like their regulator, less chance of me banging it loose and losing all the C02. Also their mounting hardware is unique.

Ever use it with air tools? Seems like you could go through a 10lb tank pretty fast, but I'm sure it would be very handy.
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10lb basic setup is $379. You add all the other goodies you're looking at abou $500. I do like their regulator, less chance of me banging it loose and losing all the C02. Also their mounting hardware is unique.

Ever use it with air tools? Seems like you could go through a 10lb tank pretty fast, but I'm sure it would be very handy.
I haven't used it on the trail for air tools, I have used it around the house. Came in handy for doing trim work while finishing my basement.
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$100? The powertanks are about $500. Did you put your own system together?
Yes, 20# beverage aluminum co2 tank and a static 150psi regulator. Used tank of course...

I wouldn't bother with a 10# tank personally. I'd go through that like nothing, I like having a couple uses and still not be concerned if I had to reset a bead or something ..

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