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Old 09-05-2010, 07:06 AM   #1
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Angry Dented drivers side cowl-How to fix\replace?

Yep I did it, apparently a lot of people have make this dumb a$$ mistake and I did too!!!
Took the door strap off and the wind caught the door and flung it all the way open and put a nice dent in the cowl that I can see from a mile away and ruined my day!!!!

I have seen people getting those cowl covers, which I think would look dumb on the rock red model and calling those paintless dent remover guys.

Is it possible to purchase a new cowl from Jeep already painted and just have it replaced or would it be cheaper to just have dent removed?

My Jeep is too new to just leave it and it's pi$$ing me off so I need to fix it.

Anyone know the cheapest way to fix or replace this dent?

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Old 09-05-2010, 07:22 AM   #2
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Is it metal or plastic? If metal go heat it with a hair dryer for a few mins on high heat then get a can of compressed air and spray the area..however if there are are any folds in the metal this will not work, dent should pop out. If plastic.. remove panel and press from the inside out, will not look 100% but better than a dent.

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It's metal and I dont see any folds, it looks like a pretty rounded dent.
I tried to remove this part yesterday to press it out but the cowl seems to be welded on the bottom to the side panel piece where the trail rated logo is, so I wasn't able to remove it.
I assume use compressed air with the can upside down or right side up? I thought upside down made it colder?

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Also would the hot to cold mess up the paint?
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Old 09-05-2010, 08:31 AM   #5
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Unless the Jeep paint is some sort of automotive anomoly, it should be ok with the hot and cold shift. I used to use dry ice to pull dents that didnt have a crease.

I think the body shops call it "Paintless dent removal"

And this is why they do it in a tent....so you cant see how easy it is.

In your case (and mine....grrr) the mirror dimple is on a curved part which complicates things a bit.

But I think the process will still work.

In my case.....the previous owner let the wind catch the door and it tore the strap mounting bracket off the door. Now I use an "engineered" concotion of mini bungee straps to keep it from swinging wild. That, and my lightning-fast left foot to catch the door. LOL
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Old 09-05-2010, 08:38 AM   #6
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Thanks! I'll look up how to use dry ice to do this and give it a try! Also have to find where the eff to get dry ice! Haha

I hope this works!!!! Thanks again!!!
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Sorry about the dent. Was at the Stealership the other day having a recall done and they were avertising the dent removal for $99.
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I got the same dent in mine. Gonna have the paintless dent removal guy take care of it.
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ok 1 more quetion...On the dry ice method, are you using it wrapped in a towel or applied directly to the dent with no towel wrapped around the dry ice?

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RIP,

I suggest NOT going to dry ice just yet.

Go with the Compressed Air Can (inverted) first. Its easier to control, easier to obtain, and less likely to do anything wierd to the finish.

Again, I've never had Dry Ice hurt anything I've worked on. But it makes sense to start with the Compressed air first and then go to dry ice if that doesnt work for ya.

Remember to HEAT it first.

I use a glove AND a towel between me and the ice and I apply the ice directly to the HEATED metal and hold it there. Trust me.....Its gonna "Scream", litterally. Thats the Carbon DiOxide sublimating (going from solid directly to gas) and vibrating against the metal in the process.
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ok thanks.
Gotta get a hold of a hairdryer first, so I run the hairdryer on it for a few minutes then spray the compressed air can inverted on the dent for how long?
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I do bodywork & mechanical repairs professionally and have owned several Wranglers now. No way dry ice and heat will magically pop that dent. PDR is the only way. I'm still learning how do perform PDR repairs after decades of old fashioned bodywork, i.e. grind it, pull it, fill, primer, paint, etc.... PDR is a delicate process and takes 100's of dents to become expert at it. So, the PDR guy that erects a tent around the repair area doesn't want to be disturbed by onlookers. $99 is about the going rate. But usually they will include a few more dents while they are there. If you have another car with a few dings, try bringing that into the equation.
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Thanks bob!
If the heat\cold doesn't work, which I'll give a shot first, since it's free and cant hurt to try, I'll go with the PDR route since $99 isn't much more than the $65 they charge for the cowel cover pieces they sell online to stick on and cover it up.
I'd rather have no dent than pay to cover it up with plastic!
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I'd be inclined to agree with Bob. I doubt the hot/cold will pop the mirror dimple.

Like I said, it's on a rounded section and that complicates things.....a lot.

I've even tried to find a black door "bumper" that I can stick on the cowl just in case my foot aint fast enough some day.

Yeah... it would look "custom" lol.
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Tj, jc Whitney has the cowel covers in silver and in black for $65 for a pair which was my next option if dent removal was too expensive.
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I say leave it, it gives it character. But if you really dont like it there are fix a dent repair kits at AZ, car quest, and Wally World. But that is a thick spot so I dont know....Good luck
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Yeah...

Chicks dig scars!

(at least thats what I keep telling myself)

If all goes well....you'll get more dints.....more dings....more scratches.....more scrapes....more "badges of experience"
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Lmao!!!!

Too new for these badges of experience, especially when this badge came from me being a dumb a$$!!! Haha

If the hot cold doesn't do it which I'm sure it won't, but I have to at least try, any recommendations on the best place to go for pdr?

Thanks again everyone for all the tips!!!!
Btw-I live at the jersey shore if that helps with pdr.
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Dryer and compressed Air didn't work. Just gonna buy the cowel covers.
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Cowl covers, hmmm? Are they self-adhesive? If so, think again. Anything that adheres by glue is prone to rusting. i.e. water gets in between. Jeeps rust bad enuf as it is, or it will sometday. Don't give it any additional excuse to form corrosion. $65 plus shipping is getting close to the PDR cost. Hey, you may find a cheaper PDR guy anyway. Just my 2 centavos.
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did the dryer and compressed air work??
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I do bodywork & mechanical repairs professionally and have owned several Wranglers now. No way dry ice and heat will magically pop that dent. PDR is the only way. I'm still learning how do perform PDR repairs after decades of old fashioned bodywork, i.e. grind it, pull it, fill, primer, paint, etc.... PDR is a delicate process and takes 100's of dents to become expert at it. So, the PDR guy that erects a tent around the repair area doesn't want to be disturbed by onlookers. $99 is about the going rate. But usually they will include a few more dents while they are there. If you have another car with a few dings, try bringing that into the equation.
I agree with this. Instead of driving yourself nuts with a new JK with dry ice, wet ice, air, gas or whatever, get it done the right way. Only one issue and I hope he's wrong. A PDR guy I've used on other vehicles with perfect results told me that the cowl piece on a JK can't be done with PDR because of the way it's attached/fabricated or something. He told me if I ever dented it, it would have to be replaced. Hopefully, he's not totally correct. I would get an opinion on PDR to have it repaired first instead of trying some nonsense diy.
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cowl dent

Hi sorry, I saw this so late I do pdr in Toms River NJ,, The methods the people are telling you about won't work on this dent. I have done over 30 of these repairs,, that should make you feel better about leaving the strap off and letting the mirror hit the cowl. They are deep and hard to do but I have been able to do alot worse than yours, if you haven't done anything with it yet give me a call. Mike
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Just have your local PDR take care of it. Its fairly cheap and you cant hardly tell when its done (providing you choose someone reputable).
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bahaha, I'm sorry, but this makes me laugh. there are just so many of these threads!! sorry about the ding!

it'll probably happen to me one day...(but I doubt it)
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Got mine fixed a few weeks ago from a PDR guy. $50 out the door.

I had the strap off to replace speakers. I had something propped between the door and jeep, well it fell.... doesn't take much at all to dent!

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