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Old 08-15-2014, 08:55 PM   #1
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Smile Did the 19/60 Spring Swap. Few pics and small how-to.

My stock springs on my Willys were 14/56. I found the 19/60s online. About $175 shipped. The two fronts are brand new and the rear set had 100 miles on them. You could probably find a little cheaper if you tried and are patient for them to show up somewhere online. The front set cost twice as much as the rears since I had to buy them new. Couldn't find 19s anywhere.

I netted 1.75" in front and 1.25" in the rear. After install everything is fine. Did a nice long test drive on the highway, bumpy roads, big speed bumps, etc. Everything is good. The steering wheel is still straight, camber looks good along with the toe. Im gonna wait a few days for it to settle then have an alignment shop just do a double check for me.

The install was really easy. Took exactly 2 hours and 15 minutes including cleanup and smoke breaks (need to quit). Did it by myself in my driveway with a floor jack, jack stands, 18mm wrench, 18mm socket, socket extension, 10mm socket, needle nose pliers, and standard wheel removal tools. Pretty sure I didn't miss anything there.

Its super easy.

1) Jack up the jeep. I used the center of each axle.
2) Put jack stands just behind the lower control arm brackets on frame.
3) Remove wheels.
4) Lower axle.
5) Remove bolts holding brake lines in place. (There are two. One on the frame, one next to the shock bracket)
6) Remove lower sway bar link bolt and lower shock bolt on both sides. This is easier if you just lower the axle into full droop. They slide right off and right back in when your done.
7) Lower the axle again until you have enough room to take springs out and put new springs in. (You MIGHT need to jack up the ends of the axles to get the springs in, also a slim chance you might have to remove the track bar bolt on the axle). If doing just the 19/60 springs you should not need to do anything with the track bar. I just pushed down on the axle ends and that gave me enough room to get the new springs in.

**Important** When putting everything back together. DO NOT tighten the sway bar bolts or shock bolts. Put the bolts in, tighten them to where there is still just a smidge of play. Get all the wheels back on and torqued. Lower the jeep on the ground. Push up and down on the front and rear of the jeep. I got in the back and pretty much jumped up and down and did the same on the front bumper. Now get under the jeep and torque the bolts down. Theres PLENTY of room to get down there. Should do this every time you replace anything suspension wise. Could cause damage to bushings/brackets if you don't.

This process works with the fronts and rears. Only difference with the rears is removing the parking brake bracket (above the axle pumpkin on the bottom of the jeep, 10mm deep socket) and use a pair of needle nose pliers to pull out the ABS/Speed sensor wiring (pretty sure thats what that wiring is for??). They are just held it with push clips, only need to pull one clip. Also watch the breather line to the axle. It will be a little tight when you get into a far enough droop to remove the rear springs.

The ride difference is barely noticeable. Its just a tiny bit rougher (I think thats too strong of a word). I doubt my wife will even notice when she is in it.

Heres some comparison shots of the springs and before & afters of the jeep.

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Umm.. Crap, I meant to put this is the tech section.

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Nice job, it looks great!!!!!!!!

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Looks great, and thanks for the helpful post about the install.

Here's what I can't figure out. Attached is a picture of the front end of my Jeep I just took. Maybe my eye is off (I've had a couple Deep Eddy Ruby Red cocktails for you Austin, TX folks!), but looks consistent with your after picture. The weird thing is my stock springs at 13/56. I've noticed from the day I picked it up that the front end seemed higher than other stock JK Willys. Is it possible they mislabeled my front springs?
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Looks great, and thanks for the helpful post about the install.

Here's what I can't figure out. Attached is a picture of the front end of my Jeep I just took. Maybe my eye is off (I've had a couple Deep Eddy Ruby Red cocktails for you Austin, TX folks!), but looks consistent with your after picture. The weird thing is my stock springs at 13/56. I've noticed from the day I picked it up that the front end seemed higher than other stock JK Willys. Is it possible they mislabeled my front springs?
You lost about 200 pounds with your doors and top off. Does it look like that fully assembled?

I'm gonna take more pictures and measurements of mine when's it's naked. Supposed to rain for the next few days though.
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I went from 14/56 to 17/59. My results were almost identical to yours re: gains. So, I ended up with a leveled out front end. I purchased the TF 1" rear spacers and now it looks just the way I like it. I'm one of those crazy guys that prefers the factory rake and i also tow a bit so it is nice to have it settle leveled out when loaded down. Yours looks great!
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I just did my fronts again today.originals where 14's then i went to 17's got an inch .then new bumper and winch lost half an inch put the 19's on and got 1 1/2 net its nice and level
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Umm.. Crap, I meant to put this is the tech section.
I'm glad you put it here. I have the original springs from my wife's '14 (17/59) and I have been kicking it around to replace my '08's (13/55). Your write-up here has convinced me to do this project. Now all I need to do is decide on keeping the budget boost on. Thanks.
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I'm glad you put it here. I have the original springs from my wife's '14 (17/59) and I have been kicking it around to replace my '08's (13/55). Your write-up here has convinced me to do this project. Now all I need to do is decide on keeping the budget boost on. Thanks.
What size budget boost? Remember if you go too high you will have start replacing other parts too. Track bars, control arms, shocks or extensions, etc. if it's a small budget boost might be able to keep the front part to offset bumper/winch weight if you have those.
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What size budget boost? Remember if you go too high you will have start replacing other parts too. Track bars, control arms, shocks or extensions, etc. if it's a small budget boost might be able to keep the front part to offset bumper/winch weight if you have those.
2" pucks.
I have already replaced my track bar with an adjustable one and I already replaced my shocks with longer shocks. I have replaced both bumpers and I do have a winch. That is why I thought I might be able to keep the pucks in place. If it don't work out that is fine. As long as the JKU springs can give as much as the budget boost has given. I wouldn't mind a little stiffer ride. It seems mine is a little spongy.
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I forgot to measure the before and after height so I put together a before and after composite pic from the swap on my Jeep to give a good shot of the difference the swap makes.

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I can't waiting till mine arrives. I already have springs and shocks from a Rubicon ready.
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Have anyone needed an alignment after doing this?
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I didn't need an aliginment went from 13/54 to 18/59 and got 2"
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Ironically I just asked this question in an old thread today lol but since yall are active in this thread, I'll ask here too. Thanks in advance!

I have 14/55 with 2.5 bb spacers. I just added a front bumper and I now it has a slight rake look again. I found a set of 18AC springs for a good price, but my question is, will the rear look like its sagging if I just change out the fronts, or should I get 59 or 60 rear springs as well?

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