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Old 09-28-2012, 04:25 PM   #1
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Did the lift craze become the standard with JKs?

I am new to Wranglers and lately I have been playing around with the idea of a modest lift for my JK unlimited and started going through the history of Wranglers for ideas. On the other hand the 4x4ing I do does not require a lift.

When did the lift craze start? It appears to be a standard requirement on JKs in this forum.

I looked through the history of Jeep from the Willys through the years and don't have clear timeline when the Willy's height was considred not good enough for off roading.

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Did it happen shortly after monster truck shows began or off road racing events? Did off roaders find stock Jeeps inadequate? When researching my purchase I saw a motor trend article on a stock Jeep Rubicon completing the Rubicon trail. Would lifting improve that performance?

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I am not disparaging anyone, I find it curious how this came to be since the original Jeep never required lifting or large tires to go over all kinds of terrain.

When did this turn into this?
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as far back as i can remember,,, back in 1970 my neighbor had a really nice cj lifted on big tires thats like 34 years ago..

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I am new to Wranglers and lately I have been playing around with the idea of a modest lift for my JK unlimited and started going through the history of Wranglers for ideas. On the other hand the 4x4ing I do does not require a lift.

When did the lift craze start? It appears to be a standard requirement on JKs in this forum.

I looked through the history of Jeep from the Willys through the years and don't have clear timeline when the Willy's height was considred not good enough for off roading.

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Did it happen shortly after monster truck shows began or off road racing events? Did off roaders find stock Jeeps inadequate? When researching my purchase I saw a motor trend article on a stock Jeep Rubicon completing the Rubicon trail. Would lifting improve that performance?

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I am not disparaging anyone, I find it curious how this came to be since the original Jeep never required lifting or large tires.

When did this turn into this?
Your picture of the lifted jeep really wouldn't be the standard. Your tactic of using a ridiculous example to illustrate your disdain for the rest of us is pretty weak.
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Old 09-28-2012, 04:39 PM   #4
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as far back as i can remember,,, back in 1970 my neighbor had a really nice cj lifted on big tires thats like 34 years ago..
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Looking at some of the manufactures of lift kits, they say they have been in business for 35 years.

As a teen I used to watch the Dukes of Hazard and I can't remember if Daisy had a lifted Wrangler or not. Heck I barely remember seeing her jeep when she stood in front of it.

I am a bit of a history buff and seriously most of the Wranglers I remember seeing were stock suspension with larger tires.

I could be wrong however.

Also friends of mine that were in the Army and drove the older Jeeps before the Humvee came along swore those old rigs could drive through nearly all kind of terrain.
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Your picture of the lifted jeep really wouldn't be the standard. Your tactic of using a ridiculous example to illustrate your disdain for the rest of us is pretty weak.
...I think you are thinking of someone else.
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Old 09-28-2012, 04:42 PM   #6
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Your picture of the lifted jeep really wouldn't be the standard. Your tactic of using a ridiculous example to illustrate your disdain for the rest of us is pretty weak.

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As a teen I used to watch the Dukes of Hazard and I can't remember if Daisy had a lifted Wrangler or not. Heck I barely remember seeing her jeep when she stood in front of it.

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Mmmmmm...... Daisy.
Thinking it was on 31's.
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Old 09-28-2012, 05:00 PM   #8
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I think the JK may be a more popular platform for lifting because a very modest lift of a JK gives you the ability to fit serious rubber. If you look at what's required to bolt 37" tires on prior models compared to the JK you may have your answer.
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Actually, it seemed like a fairly polite question to me.

OP, folks have always lifted...including during the CJ days. Most don't, but the folks you see in these forums are not your average JK drivers...who only wheel around town. I still see mostly non-lifted JKs in my daily travels.

BTW, the M151 that I drove in the Army was not lifted (of course)...and I would have traded it in a heartbeat for my JKR. I got that beast stuck in mud more times than I would care to say. Of course, you get some pretty deep ruts when tracked vehicles are using the same trails.
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Actually, it seemed like a fairly polite question to me.

OP, folks have always lifted...including during the CJ days. Most don't, but the folks you see in these forums are not your average JK drivers...who only wheel around town. I still see mostly non-lifted JKs in my daily travels.

BTW, the M151 that I drove in the Army was not lifted (of course)...and I would have traded it in a heartbeat for my JKR. I got that beast stuck in mud more times than I would care to say. Of course, you get some pretty deep ruts when tracked vehicles are using the same trails.
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Now that you mention it, the Humvess that replaced them have greater ground clearance and larger tires.

You are correct about my lack of seeing lifted Jeeps in the past could be because I was not going to off road events and only seeing only daily drivers.
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Old 09-28-2012, 05:13 PM   #11
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I think the JK may be a more popular platform for lifting because a very modest lift of a JK gives you the ability to fit serious rubber. If you look at what's required to bolt 37" tires on prior models compared to the JK you may have your answer.
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Old 09-28-2012, 05:18 PM   #12
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There's always been a mix of lifted/non-lifted Jeeps in the rural area I live.

Seems like often there's an age break of both the rig as well as the driver.

I'm in the geezer group that don't need the additional excitement and expense in my life. I like being able to step into & out of my Wrangler without climbing.

In the early 60s none of the group I knew had anything but skinny tires and some kind of WW2 surplus rolling stock. Keeping it running was hard enough.
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Old 09-28-2012, 05:34 PM   #14
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Anyone got pics of lifted Jeeps from the 60s, 70s, 80s, or 90s?
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Look at the CJ, YJ and TJ forums. That might help.
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People focus too much on the word "lift" and the concept of "lifting" without instead focusing on the more important aspects of suspension, drivetrain durability, and other things of actual value.

That's what I notice.

This is my definition of a lift
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Old 09-28-2012, 05:50 PM   #17
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People focus too much on the word "lift" and the concept of "lifting" without instead focusing on the more important aspects of suspension, drivetrain durability, and other things of actual value.

That's what I notice.

This is my definition of a lift
LOL! If only you could take one of these with you on the trail to get you out of sticky situations.
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Old 09-28-2012, 05:57 PM   #18
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here's a JK with a decent lift.....spectacular driving and difficult terrain

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I wouldn't characterize it as a craze. Here in Colorado Jeeps are thicker than fleas on a dog. Approx 50% are not lifted.
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Old 09-28-2012, 06:12 PM   #20
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Mmmmmm...... Daisy.
Thinking it was on 31's.
I think she was on at least 36's......C probably

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Old 09-28-2012, 06:16 PM   #21
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Well, a lifted JK is alot more mangeable than the lifted jeeps of old. That is probally part of what you see. It is easier than ever to slap on a lift and still have great drivability. Plus I think wrangler sales in general are way up with the new pentastar.
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call me a poser, but i have always had lowered cars slammed on the ground... i got my jeep and always said i was going to do a 4 inch and 35's.... ill i flex it in extreme crawling? no... will i take it offroad? if i go camping or want to play in the mud... would a set off 33 duratracs do the job? sure. but i wanted to have a lifted jeep so thats what i did
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After I got my Jeep, my Dad's best friend was telling me how he had a Jeep back in 1971 that he lifted. There weren't any kits, per-se, so he had to cannibalize other vehicles for the parts that would work and do what he needed. The big thing that stuck out was he had the centers cut out of the Jeep rims and welded them into semi rims, and ran some off-road semi tires. He showed me a couple pics, if I run into him anytime soon I will try to borrow them and post.
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Old 09-28-2012, 07:04 PM   #24
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Old 09-28-2012, 08:19 PM   #25
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Well I've owned CJs that were lifted, CJs that were not lifted, YJs that were lifted, YJs that were not lifted, TJs that were lifted, JKs that were lifted, and now own a JK that is not lifted. Suspension lifts really became poplular when I was a teenager. 1977 is the year that stands out.
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Nice Find The Golden Eagle I mean........


"I think she was on at least 36's......C probably "

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Very Nice Cass!!!

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Yah, I'm not sure if Daisy's CJ was lifted, but Daisy definitely was.
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I think over the years Jeep's have evolved in ways that allow them to do much more than they were originally designed to do. On top of this, Jeep owners have evolved too, they want to do more with their Jeep. Because of this you see more owners modifying their Jeeps in ways that allow them to tackle very difficult terrain.

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