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Old 09-02-2010, 09:51 AM   #1
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Diesel swap-in

I hear a lot about people swapping Hemi, but what about a diesel?

Here's a page about challenges of swapping a diesel in a Toyota truck:
Toyota Truck Diesel Conversion FAQ and Guide

I think some of that is generally applicable, e.g. that engines have to match mount points even if we're talking about a BOF truck, and the regulatory issues. So in particular I'm thinking about a diesel from Liberty.

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I'd love to swap a Cummins 4BT into mine.

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I'd love to swap a Cummins 4BT into mine.
Better plan on buying a 60 front and some stought springs
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Old 09-02-2010, 10:04 AM   #4
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Nope, not worth it !!


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I hear a lot about people swapping Hemi, but what about a diesel?

Here's a page about challenges of swapping a diesel in a Toyota truck:
Toyota Truck Diesel Conversion FAQ and Guide

I think some of that is generally applicable, e.g. that engines have to match mount points even if we're talking about a BOF truck, and the regulatory issues. So in particular I'm thinking about a diesel from Liberty.

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Oh, the Diesel itself would be worth it, but the "piggyback" programming of the Chrysler Auto computers (ECM) is WAY to much trouble--

You could make you own motor mounts, but thats it--State emission/fed legality/ECM programming/transmission cooling/mounting/driveshafting/interior accessories--Way to much trouble-

The only reason the HEMI is easy now is because AEV has worked on this "swap" for over 6 years and they have the "piggyback" ECM programs fixed-for the 5.7/6.1 HEMI and 5 spd auto-transfer--tp jeeps, especially the JK's

There ain't no reason forit, it's just the way we doit !!

All it takes is "MONEY" !!

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For 20K I could build an entire jeep from scratch that would smoke that hemi rig...way way overpriced.
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Nope, not worth it !!




Oh, the Diesel itself would be worth it, but the "piggyback" programming of the Chrysler Auto computers (ECM) is WAY to much trouble--

You could make you own motor mounts, but thats it--State emission/fed legality/ECM programming/transmission cooling/mounting/driveshafting/interior accessories--Way to much trouble-

The only reason the HEMI is easy now is because AEV has worked on this "swap" for over 6 years and they have the "piggyback" ECM programs fixed-for the 5.7/6.1 HEMI and 5 spd auto-transfer--tp jeeps, especially the JK's

There ain't no reason forit, it's just the way we doit !!

All it takes is "MONEY" !!

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Why not use the ECM that comes with the motor you are using? If you found a donor vehicle with the drivetrain and related components all in working order, it woudln't be as hard as your talking.

Its not a diesel into a Wrangler, but my buddie is looking for cracked up sports bikes to pull apart and put into a go-cart or mini buggy. Same concept. Just use all the gear from the donor vehicle.
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Well, if it's THAT simple--why don't you doit--


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Why not use the ECM that comes with the motor you are using? If you found a donor vehicle with the drivetrain and related components all in working order, it woudln't be as hard as your talking.

Its not a diesel into a Wrangler, but my buddie is looking for cracked up sports bikes to pull apart and put into a go-cart or mini buggy. Same concept. Just use all the gear from the donor vehicle.
You could become a millionaire and every body will call you for your "Good price" warranty's/parts/customer service/insurance/payroll/state tax/ union laws

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But a diesel Wrangler does exist in foreign markets. There must be someone who's dedicated enough to find a way to do it. Basically I'm asking if anyone knows of someone who has done it and perhaps has the relevant experience.
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whats the point in that?
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maybe it was a way to make the YJ cool
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You could become a millionaire and every body will call you for your "Good price" warranty's/parts/customer service/insurance/payroll/state tax/ union laws

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Don't worry I will have a build thread very shorty ...but I'm not into mass production lol....and anti union
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OK, since this is the JK forum, I'm sure your build thread is going to be for state legal, 2007 thru 2011 JK's right ??

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Nah, I'm not a JK guy....just making a point that a 20K hemi swap is a total waste of money when you could have so much more for less
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well, I'm sorry ol buddy, but since you're not a JK guy, then the point has no merit !!

A 5.7L HEMI/5 spd auto with complete ECM/(good)Cooling/shifting/state legal/emission legal and all JK computer reqiurements met--is a good deal !!

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With money, time, tools and ideas you can put anything on anything.

For all I care you could put a Jet-Turbine on a Jeep. But yes, diesel conversion have and will continue to happen. You cant beat the low end torque with a stock diesel. Especially if mated with a allisons and a atlas 4 way xcase
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But yes, diesel conversion have and will continue to happen. You cant beat the low end torque with a stock diesel. Especially if mated with a allisons and a atlas 4 way xcase
Do you have any links to write-ups, or know any names?

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Well, if it's THAT simple--why don't you doit--




You could become a millionaire and every body will call you for your "Good price" warranty's/parts/customer service/insurance/payroll/state tax/ union laws

Good luck

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Sorry, I didn't realize we were discussing JKs only. The OP didn't state it was for a JK, and I didn't bother to look at what sub-forum it was posted in.

As for your becoming a millionaire comment, I have no clue what your talking about. It makes no sense, sorry.

Now, going back to what I was saying, as long as you weren't trying to pass emissions, it could be done that easy. Just get the donor parts and learn to custom fabricate. I'm not saying its gonna cost less than $50, but it could be done for less than the 20K hemi swap. A hell of a lot less.
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Sorry, I didn't realize we were discussing JKs only. The OP didn't state it was for a JK, and I didn't bother to look at what sub-forum it was posted in.

As for your becoming a millionaire comment, I have no clue what your talking about. It makes no sense, sorry.

Now, going back to what I was saying, as long as you weren't trying to pass emissions, it could be done that easy. Just get the donor parts and learn to custom fabricate. I'm not saying its gonna cost less than $50, but it could be done for less than the 20K hemi swap. A hell of a lot less.
You and I are on the same page Gee
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With money, time, tools and ideas you can put anything on anything.

For all I care you could put a Jet-Turbine on a Jeep.
But yes, diesel conversion have and will continue to happen. You cant beat the low end torque with a stock diesel. Especially if mated with a allisons and a atlas 4 way xcase
Something inside me just had to Google it ...

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Wish i had a jk to do a diesel swap....im looking

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