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Old 11-19-2011, 09:27 PM   #121
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We are lucky down here, we get the Hella H4 E-code inserts as stock. Simply stuck some Phillips +50's in (couldnt find any +80's at the time) and they are just as bright as any other vehicle on the road.

Likewise, we can not run HID inserts in the standard headlights. Though a lot do, they are annoyingly bright and distracting and do get pulled over by the cops down here and booked. But then I currently cant run tyres more than 15mm larger diameter than stock nor can I run without doors - so some of our laws are pretty sucky!
No doors? man that blows

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We are lucky down here, we get the Hella H4 E-code inserts as stock. Simply stuck some Phillips +50's in (couldnt find any +80's at the time) and they are just as bright as any other vehicle on the road.

Likewise, we can not run HID inserts in the standard headlights. Though a lot do, they are annoyingly bright and distracting and do get pulled over by the cops down here and booked. But then I currently cant run tyres more than 15mm larger diameter than stock nor can I run without doors - so some of our laws are pretty sucky!
Sounds like y'all have light sense, but no tire or door sense. Are you allowed to run rock doors?

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Old 11-20-2011, 12:13 AM   #123
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Just saw this thread, thought I would pass this on. I used the H4 conversion kit in the thread linked below and it was a *dramatic* improvement. It includes a new harness, relays, capacitors, Hella reflectors, and I upgraded to the Phillips Xtreme bulbs as recommended.

For a couple hundred dollars, you end up with a plug-and-play upgrade that will make all the difference in the world, and be completely legal.

The link includes a write-up of the install by another member. It may have been linked elsewhere in this thread, but I didn't read it all, and IDGAF.

I do hope this helps. BTW: 2012 and up the install is a bit different because of battery placement next to the Jesus Motor™. You'll have to rig up a way to mount the relays. I let them sit in the battery tray for a while, it's not an issue.

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Installed my Philips +80's today. Will test them tonight and give feedback.
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OK, tested the new Philips +80's tonight. While a definite improvement, I don't think that it's 80% better. Probably more like 40%, but it is better, and it was cheap and easy to do.
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OK, tested the new Philips +80's tonight. While a definite improvement, I don't think that it's 80% better. Probably more like 40%, but it is better, and it was cheap and easy to do.
In a housing that doesn't suck.......it is probably much closer to an %80 improvement.
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OK, tested the new Philips +80's tonight. While a definite improvement, I don't think that it's 80% better. Probably more like 40%, but it is better, and it was cheap and easy to do.
Right. But, completely inadequate (stock) to quite adequate (Philips Extreme +80) is a big step forward..... IMO.
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Old 07-02-2012, 02:09 AM   #128
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I installed an HID kit, and 4 KC 130 watt slim lights, two on the windshield brackets, and two on the front tube bumper, got lots of light now, burn the paint off the guy in front of me, if I'm not careful. LOL
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OK, got them and seems that was a mistake as I can't retun them. What to do, scrap them and start over -- Better bulbs? Please advise, thanks much.
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Old 11-15-2012, 06:09 PM   #130
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Probably not.

There are legal HID retrofit kits available; some are good quality and some are very very bad.
This is a bad kit:
suvlights.com OSRAM Sylvania XENARC HID Sealed Beam X6024 (7" Round) Upgrade Kit HID headlight
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I'd check any kit on Candlpowerforums before buying it.

As for the illegal retrofits, if your OE lights are halogen projectors, an HID bulb won't be as dangerous or annoying as those installed in normal reflectors.

There are jurisdictions that are starting to target illegal HID installs. I would think that they'd go after retail shops that are selling them first but, it will hit the streets as well.
I get Legal, but most of our jeeps just get by inspection the way it is. We look for upgrades that border offroad use rather than on road.
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Here's a bi-xenon kit that works and is legal too.
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Wow, scicero1. Why did you drag up an 20 month old thread just to take a jab at Hilldweller?

Hilldweller has been extremely helpful regarding our Jeep lighting and has actual test data to back it up. I understand your comment about people with different budgets that might not be able to afford the recommended "legal" lights for their Jeep, but that isn't Hilldweller's fault. He is just telling people like it is, at least that is how I see it. I don't think any offense was intentionally directed at anyone.
Honestly, many of us are trying to find the quick fix. Hilldweller is correct, however we know how much our jeeps eat the pocket the way it is. I went hid, simple kit never had an issue. Im blind at night and off road if not for high lighting I should just be watching old re-runs. I never had an issue with HID, no police, no flashing passer bys, I make sure im not blinding people. But with this things being worth more than my house, i had to take a short cut.

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Hi Bill
You have done an amazing job on your headlight reviews. The problem is that I'm not looking for the best of the best, money's no object type of headlight.
I'm on a tight budget, but I really need to do something about the junky OEM headlights on my JK.

I spent over an hour reading through your reviews on another site, and I was super impressed, but I didn't find what I was looking for.

If it were your jeep, and you had around $100 for an upgrade, What Would You Do?
Your opinion means a lot to most of us, and I know that there are a ton of owners that are in the same boat as I am.

Any thoughts?

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Is this the H4 kit suggested? I've had HID lights for 8 years so I'm already scared about the change to what is apparently god awful lights on my new Jeep.

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Is this the H4 kit suggested? I've had HID lights for 8 years so I'm already scared about the change to what is apparently god awful lights on my new Jeep.

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Any info on this kit? Looking to upgrade!
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^ Coming from the TJ world, that H4 kit looks a lot like what a bunch of the TJ guys would use and often recommended. I don't know how it translates over to a JK, but I would imagine it would be pretty good. I remember often seeing recommendations for the Hella E-code before, I don't know anyone running them in a JK though.
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I have been considering the set from Quadratec Delta H4 Conversion. Anyone used these?

Delta Tech 01-1148-50 - Delta H4 Hi/Lo 7" Halogen Headlight Kit for 07-13 Jeep® Wrangler & Wrangler Unlimited JK - Quadratec

Also considering the wiring harness even though it says you don't need it.

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Hello all,

My new 2010 Wrangler has the dimmest headlights I've ever seen.
My wife has a Toyota minivan and the headlights (not HIDs) totally blow away the Jeep.
I don't want to convert to HIDs (at least while it is still under warranty).
I was wondering if anyone knows if it is the reflector design, or just cheap oem bulbs.
If it is the bulbs, what are your recommendations for a replacement with the same wattage as oem - don't want to overheat anything - esspecially that integrated control unit thingy.

Thanks.

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I upgraded to the Philips X-Treme Vision headlights. They cost me about $31 from Amazon.com and they were well worth the money. They're not HIDs, but they most certainly make driving at night possible.
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Any info on this kit? Looking to upgrade!
From the reading and searching I did on the forums last night I landed on the above linked Susquehanna kit (rally sports) but will swap in a set of the Philips extremes, which is a better bulb and actually lowers the price if I understand things correctly. Should be fun!
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Ok. Forgive my ignorance. Ok coming from a TJ and used this with an upgraded 140/90 12 w bulb. I was very satisfied with their performance. What do I have to do to my 07 JKU to obtain the same output. I still have the h4 upgrade kit. Do I need a harness? Is it plug and play? And how much?

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Anyone know if there would be an improvement with silverstars on a 2014 model?
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Anyone know if there would be an improvement with silverstars on a 2014 model?
yes. I put Silver Star Ultra (the approx $50, only guaranteed for a year ones) on my 14, and it's brighter. I don't have any before and after photos. But noticeable difference.
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I've got a 2014 JKU and the head lights are decent ...
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Everyone always flashing their high beams at me cause they think mine are on but i cant see anything because these headlights are so terrible. And offroad? Wow.

The worst are people who simply turn their highbeams on, rather than flash. These people will be getting the lightbar treatment as soon as its hooked up.
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I've got a 2014 JKU and the head lights are decent ...
That's my confusion. I have a 14 and I think they are ok. Just wondering if they would improve with silverstars even more?
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I have been considering the set from Quadratec Delta H4 Conversion. Anyone used these?

Delta Tech 01-1148-50 - Delta H4 Hi/Lo 7" Halogen Headlight Kit for 07-13 Jeep® Wrangler & Wrangler Unlimited JK - Quadratec
I've been eyeing that setup also.

Now that the days are getting short, I remember how much the OEM units suck. This thing is only second to my '67 Cougar, which has the original non-halogen sealed beams.....
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Long term consensus is that the Phillips X-treme 80+ is the best bulb replacement upgrade: Amazon.com: Philips H13 9008 X-treme Power Headlight Bulb, Pack of 2: Automotive

Start with this old post: headlights

Click on the link provided in rics1997's post and read all you will ever need to know about JK headlight replacement options. Pay special attention to lighting expert Hilldweller's posts way back in this thread, and in the linked thread. The are lighting gospel!
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I think my '13 lights are ok..I upgraded the bulbs to Philips H13 9008 X-treme and though they were not much better...and now I get high beamed all the time..so, I dunno
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That's my confusion. I have a 14 and I think they are ok. Just wondering if they would improve with silverstars even more?
Mine did! Not huge increase. I'd guess about 25 - 35% brighter. (Big Guess)...But I'll replace them again with Silver Stars when they go out - Unless i hit the Lottery and can afford Truck Lights!

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