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Old 04-10-2014, 05:01 PM   #211
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The hardest part about the install was getting the gray plug pins from the lock pick harness to properly mess.
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Old 04-11-2014, 09:28 PM   #212
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The hardest part about the install was getting the gray plug pins from the lock pick harness to properly mess.
Looks great! Are you still planning to share your template for the spare tire bracket with us?

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This was a quick trace to printer paper just before I installed it, I got anxious and installed it without making a real pattern. The circle was traced from an empty flower pot and the mount dimension dictated by the opening in the rim.
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One could also use the template provided by AEV as a starting point for fab'ing your own bracket.

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Old 04-12-2014, 08:19 AM   #215
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I installed NAV-TV module with the Audiovox CMOS-2 backup camera. A straightforward installation, I spent about 5 hrs taking my time with a few breaks, and a rework of the hole on the backside of the rear bumper cover. A good learning experience on how the Jeep is put together.



Not interested in doing this mod, but that's one of the best DYI's I've ever seen. Just an awesome job!
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One could also use the template provided by AEV as a starting point for fab'ing your own bracket.

cool good find, thanks!
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Did you actually get the harness pictured on their website?

I didn't.

They sent me something somewhat similar, but the opposite. The harness pictured is to plug an aftermarket camera into a factory radio (what we need for a 430N/730N). The harness I received is to plug a factory camera into an aftermarket radio.

I emailed them, but they couldn't grasp the difference. I would not recommend buying the harness from this one vendor.

EDIT: Oh wait. They changed the picture on their website to the harness they are actually shipping; the harness for a factory camera to plug into an aftermarket radio.
That sucks, my harness plugged directly into the empty spot on back of factory 430n.
Clearly they shipped wrong item, did they correct it for you?
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Old 04-13-2014, 03:56 PM   #218
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Dmcent63,

What type of material did you use for the mount behind the wheel?
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Old 04-14-2014, 04:46 AM   #219
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Dmcent63, What type of material did you use for the mount behind the wheel?
I bought 1/8", 7"x14" Aluminum sheet. I had the sheet metal shop I bought the stock from bend an 1 1/2" hem on one end to mount the camera to.
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I bought 1/8", 7"x14" Aluminum sheet. I had the sheet metal shop I bought the stock from bend an 1 1/2" hem on one end to mount the camera to.
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Old 04-14-2014, 08:46 AM   #222
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There's some really good info you guys have provided on here. I'm pretty pampered from having a backup camera in my Durango the past few years. And I do have to echo that Jeep would be smart to add this as at least an option. However, they'll have to do so by 2018 to comply with new federal vehicle safety laws.
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And I do have to echo that Jeep would be smart to add this as at least an option. However, they'll have to do so by 2018 to comply with new federal vehicle safety laws.
The working date for the rear cameras to be required, was 1/1/2015 for a long time. So, I was anxiously waiting to see how Jeep solved this engineering/design problem, and such would showing up in the upcoming 2015 Wranglers. But you're right. The fed's have now delayed (yet again) this, way out to 2018.

In knowing the Wrangler's unique problems for this, I was expecting to see a design by Jeep that incorporates the cameras into the rear tail lights (eliminating the spare-tire-in-the-way problem). Appropriate software would then "stitch" the two images together, into one, kind of like the way photo software can build panoramic pictures. That stitched together image would be what was viewed up on the dash.

Anyway, enough wishful thinking. Unfortunately, there will now not be a government forced, Jeep solution for the JK's.
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Old 04-20-2014, 11:44 PM   #224
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I added a high mount LED brake light to my camera mount and am eliminating the stock high mount stop light.
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Update on installing cameras!

OK, my father-in-law just retired...he was the head electriction at a nuclear power plant....so he's pretty good with this kind of stuff.

I was out in the driveway installing my babycam when he peaked in. I told him I needed some wire so I could run power from the camera up the Lockpick unit. We were discussing some stuff, and we got to talking about the little extra wire that sticks out and the end of RCA line. I knew it was a power wire, but I never understood the point of it, since there was no ground.

Well, after hooking it up (RCA + that power line), there was a picture....and he explained to me that the ground is in the shielding of the RCA line...so you don't have to run a separate ground line! The camera draws so little power that a major ground wasn't needed.

What does that mean?

It means that for those that are installing cameras....if you want to tap a power source next to the head unit (or whever you plug the RCA input to), most of the line is already there.

I know I got some PM's recently on installing cameras....and I wanted to provide this update.
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Well, after hooking it up (RCA + that power line), there was a picture....and he explained to me that the ground is in the shielding of the RCA line...so you don't have to run a separate ground line! The camera draws so little power that a major ground wasn't needed.

What does that mean?

It means that for those that are installing cameras....if you want to tap a power source next to the head unit (or whever you plug the RCA input to), most of the line is already there.
My concern is that the factory radios have both a "camera return" and a separate "camera shield" (in addition to "camera signal").

I am not sure which, or both, of "camera return" and "camera shield" is actually body/chassis ground. It could very well be that one or the other is floating (AC coupled?) by intended design, and not actually ground.
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My concern is that the factory radios have both a "camera return" and a separate "camera shield" (in addition to "camera signal").

I am not sure which, or both, of "camera return" and "camera shield" is actually body/chassis ground. It could very well be that one or the other is floating (AC coupled?) by intended design, and not actually ground.
That I don't know. The camera itself is desgned with a power and ground wire, along with an RCA cable that has an additional power wire at the end of the RCA. Given the low draw....vs the Chrysler system, I'm not sure what is necessary.

Luckily, both my cameras are running through Lockpick, and I believe Lockpick is connected to the factory ground via the harness. One is running a ground through Lockpick's ground wire, and the other is grounded (I assume) through the RCA cable.
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Old 04-22-2014, 07:53 AM   #228
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...just no nav-input while in motion for those of us with manual transmissions (>my2012). that is the one drawback i have had with my CHR550.
I realize this was posted in relation to the Lockpick 550, but is this going to be true of other installations as well?

I have a manual transmission and I'm thinking of putting in a camera. If there is no chance of me getting the input enabled while in motion, then I will go the 'easy' route of Starscan/harness/camera and be happy with a simple backup camera.

On the other hand, can anyone else with a manual transmission confirm if they have got the in-motion stuff working, please?

Thanks! And thanks to everyone for all the great info on this thread. Awesome stuff.
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I realize this was posted in relation to the Lockpick 550, but is this going to be true of other installations as well?

I have a manual transmission and I'm thinking of putting in a camera. If there is no chance of me getting the input enabled while in motion, then I will go the 'easy' route of Starscan/harness/camera and be happy with a simple backup camera.

On the other hand, can anyone else with a manual transmission confirm if they have got the in-motion stuff working, please?

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Have no idea, give them a call they maybe able to answer
Suprising easy install though wasn't it..?
I just found the time last night to install this harness and it was extremely easy to install. I had the dealership enable the rearview option as part of my purchase. They did that a few weeks ago, and was glad to find out that once the backup camera option was enabled there is a menu setting to turn it off so I didn't have to look at a black screen every time I put it in reverse until I could get the camera installed.

I did call the manufacture about the black wires and they said they were additional grounds that you may or may not need.

One thing I haven't been able to figure out: They were also supposed to enable the external screen option but I can't seem to find anything different in the head unit to direct video output to the external displays? I am missing something, otherwise I am thinking that maybe they missed or messed that one up?

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They did that a few weeks ago, and was glad to find out that once the backup camera option was enabled there is a menu setting to turn it off so I didn't have to look at a black screen every time I put it in reverse until I could get the camera installed.
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One thing I haven't been able to figure out: They were also supposed to enable the external screen option but I can't seem to find anything different in the head unit to direct video output to the external displays? I am missing something, otherwise I am thinking that maybe they missed or messed that one up?
If you go into the Owners section of Jeep.com, and log in, you will be able to get what's called here your "build sheet". In that, there is a section for Dealer Installed Options. I know for mine, I have that my dealer installed the Parkview Rear Camera option (or a name along those lines).

For the additional option you mention, I think there should also be listed that the dealer installed VES (or again a name along those lines). Can you check and let us know what you find?

BTW, the video output is on the same radio connector as camera in (probably you already know that).
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I actually had my local dealership enable it so it wouldn't be on the build sheet. I will have to check with an actually external monitor when the monitor arrives tomorrow night but I was expecting some menu items to show up in the radio itself.

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I actually had my local dealership enable it so it wouldn't be on the build sheet.
Like I said, it should be in the Dealer Installed Options section of your Build Sheet.

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Like I said, it should be in the Dealer Installed Options section of your Build Sheet.

Sorry after I hit Submit I realized what you said. Here is what it shows:



So it appears they did enable it.

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It would appear from the manual that something has to be connected in order for the VES to display the menu items.




I will post an update once my external monitor arrives.

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Extra grommet hole in tailgate

I finally got all the pieces together (figuratively and literally) to start installing my rear camera.

In reading thru all the various instructions available (yea, I am kind of OCD when it comes to such things), it seems that the two common ways of routing the wire from a tailgate mounted camera, inside, is to either put it thru with the center mount brake light wire, or snake it thru the air vent.

In looking at my 2014, there is the rubber grommet on the left (driver's) side of the spare tire carrier that the center mount brake light wire goes thru, and there is also a currently empty rubber grommet on the right (passenger's) side of the carrier.

I am wondering, why is no one using this other grommet? Seems the perfect choice to me! ! !

Is it that such is new for the 2014 models? Was Jeep actually anticipating the Feds to require a rear camera, and added this extra hole w/grommet just in case?
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I finally got all the pieces together (figuratively and literally) to start installing my rear camera.

In reading thru all the various instructions available (yea, I am kind of OCD when it comes to such things), it seems that the two common ways of routing the wire from a tailgate mounted camera, inside, is to either put it thru with the center mount brake light wire, or snake it thru the air vent.

In looking at my 2014, there is the rubber grommet on the left (driver's) side of the spare tire carrier that the center mount brake light wire goes thru, and there is also a currently empty rubber grommet on the right (passenger's) side of the carrier.

I am wondering, why is no one using this other grommet? Seems the perfect choice to me! ! !

Is it that such is new for the 2014 models? Was Jeep actually anticipating the Feds to require a rear camera, and added this extra hole w/grommet just in case?
I used the grommet on the left I had to shave the back to make it thinner so I could run the wiring.
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This one is for those that don't want to drill any holes in your tire mount bracket.
How about for those of us who want your solution, but don't want to make it ourselves? Are you selling?

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