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Old 01-23-2014, 09:59 AM   #61
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Who wants general motor parts in there jeep
I don't know if you have ever seen it but they put hemi s in jeep lol
Good luck with that dead end
Lol who swaps in a Hemi in anything but guys who think it HAS to be a mopar motor since it is a mopar vevehicle?

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Seriously? Are we still in grade school?

Whatever your opinion may be of wayalife there's no doubting that he knows his stuff and has quite a lot of experience in modifying a JK. Also, he has one badass rig.

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Lol who swaps in a Hemi in anything but guys who think it HAS to be a mopar motor since it is a mopar vevehicle?
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Seriously? Are we still in grade school?

Whatever your opinion may be of wayalife there's no doubting that he knows his stuff and has quite a lot of experience in modifying a JK. Also, he has one badass rig.
For everyone their own. Right? But intentionally flaming is annoying lol

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To me honestly. The big engine is mostly used for getting to and from the trail or if towing on the trail.
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To me honestly. The big engine is mostly used for getting to and from the trail or if towing on the trail.
"Big" engine = torque

Not in every scenario but typically Bigger than a 3.8L at least.
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No doubt there is no replacement for displacement. Torque can be generated by gearing also. Don't get me wrong, I'm with you on this. I already bought my 5.3 but living in the socialist republic of california I must first have a abortion and pay nine years of taxes in advance to have a cleaner, more efficient power plant installed not to mention I have to wait for the redwood trees to mature to harvest for the required paperwork. I must also have proof that I lived with a illegal alien and only vote democrat to get action from the state. I must also pay the unions for their dues lost because I'm doing it my self.
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No doubt there is no replacement for displacement. Torque can be generated by gearing also. Don't get me wrong, I'm with you on this. I already bought my 5.3 but living in the socialist republic of california I must first have a abortion and pay nine years of taxes in advance to have a cleaner, more efficient power plant installed not to mention I have to wait for the redwood trees to mature to harvest for the required paperwork. I must also have proof that I lived with a illegal alien and only vote democrat to get action from the state. I must also pay the unions for their dues lost because I'm doing it my self.
HE MAD!! I just Lol'd at your post! Truth is the truth!


Just make sure you build your motor in that back of a dark garage with no windows. Should be good then As for the abortion, well... ill let you handle that one
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Not only would I like to do this swap in my JK I would like to do one in my 71 Bronco.
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No doubt there is no replacement for displacement. Torque can be generated by gearing also. Don't get me wrong, I'm with you on this. I already bought my 5.3 but living in the socialist republic of california I must first have a abortion and pay nine years of taxes in advance to have a cleaner, more efficient power plant installed not to mention I have to wait for the redwood trees to mature to harvest for the required paperwork. I must also have proof that I lived with a illegal alien and only vote democrat to get action from the state. I must also pay the unions for their dues lost because I'm doing it my self.
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Just looking at the costs involved, I wonder if someone couldn't buy a JK with a blown 3.8, pay outright for an Ls swap (parts and labor), and come out about even vs buying a used jk that did not need an engine.
This happens more then you think. Look on sites like JKO or even Pirate. You look at their builds and say "WTF, wish I had the money for a build like that" Then you look at the details. 07-08 with 2wd and/or blown engine. Prob paid $8000-$10000 for the jeep. Think about what you can do with 20-30k..... Especially if you can fab yourself.'
All said and done ... Most likely paid less then a brand new 4 door loaded Rubi x would have cost.
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07-08 with 2wd and/or blown engine. Prob paid $8000-$10000 for the jeep. Think about what you can do with 20-30k..... Especially if you can fab yourself.'
$20-$30k and any JK would be a master piece lol! For half that it would be bad fu&%ing a$$!!
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$20-$30k and any JK would be a master piece lol! For half that it would be bad fu&%ing a$$!!
Trust me it doesn't go as far as you think it would.
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Trust me it doesn't go as far as you think it would.
Yeah i should prolly hold my tongue lol.
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Psh, 4k for a lift.. 3k for rims tires and brakes.
2k for winch, front, and rear bumper.
1k for trucklites and LED dog lights. That leaves you with 10k for an engine swap..
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Psh, 4k for a lift.. 3k for rims tires and brakes.
2k for winch, front, and rear bumper.
1k for trucklites and LED dog lights. That leaves you with 10k for an engine swap..
That's doing everything on the cheap. Then you still have to address the axles, and what about the tranny? Kinda pointless to make over double the power then leave everything else stock. Unless you were just going to drive it up and down the highway that is.

I love how you included the lights but didn't mention the drive train.....
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That's doing everything on the cheap. Then you still have to address the axles, and what about the tranny? Kinda pointless to make over double the power then leave everything else stock. Unless you were just going to drive it up and down the highway that is. I love how you included the lights but didn't mention the drive train.....
10k. If you spend 10k on just an engine, you have issues. Unless you're going everything brand spanking new, and you're paying to have it done, that budget is easy.

If lifts cost 4k for a jk, then that's outrageous. If you can't get rims and tires for 2k, you aren't looking to save money, you're just blowing it.
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Kinda pointless to make over double the power then leave everything else stock. Unless you were just going to drive it up and down the highway that is.
Truth is truth. Stock tranny is already out the door. Havent finalized the tcase though.

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10k. If you spend 10k on just an engine.
Im pretty confident i can finish my motor for around half that. But that's just the motor. Then you start addressing the rest of the drivetrain Like watchthis mentioned.

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A reliable lift for a JK really does cost around 4K. It's a little rediculous but thats what i get for driving an 09. My buddy owns a tire and wheel shop so I wont have any issue "blowing" money here.
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10k. If you spend 10k on just an engine, you have issues. Unless you're going everything brand spanking new, and you're paying to have it done, that budget is easy.

If lifts cost 4k for a jk, then that's outrageous. If you can't get rims and tires for 2k, you aren't looking to save money, you're just blowing it.
Some people run good reliable parts, and some people buy stuff at places like AutoZone and run the cheapest tires they can get......

I have LOTS of time tied up in researching a LS swap in a JK and know what cost what.

And by your comment about spending the 10k that you "budgeted" for the swap on the motor alone tells me everything I need to know. Go blow smoke up someone else's ass.
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This happens more then you think. Look on sites like JKO or even Pirate. You look at their builds and say "WTF, wish I had the money for a build like that" Then you look at the details. 07-08 with 2wd and/or blown engine. Prob paid $8000-$10000 for the jeep. Think about what you can do with 20-30k..... Especially if you can fab yourself.'
All said and done ... Most likely paid less then a brand new 4 door loaded Rubi x would have cost.
The old time-money equation. If you have the time and the skills, I definitely think an LS-equipped JK is a very cool project. Maybe the power isn't quite what you'd get out of a Hemi but the LS engines have proven to be VERY reliable. If it weren't for emissions concerns, I'd say just grab an old TBI 350 and be done with it for very cheap, or hell even something with a Quadrajet on it. I assume the LS swap and Hemi swaps can be done in an emissions-compliant manner and that is why they are so common.

I mean if you could put just ANYTHING you wanted into a JK, there'd have to be at least one of these on the forum ...

632 Big Dawg Big Chief Big Block Chevrolet Pump Gas Crate Engine

I know it's probably got a pretty big cam in it, but I betcha it's still got enough low-end torque to get a JK up a steep hill ...
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Maybe the power isn't quite what you'd get out of a Hemi but the LS engines have proven to be VERY reliable. .
Actually the aftermarket support is huge for the LS platform so you can make biger power(500/700 hp) way cheaper then with a Hemi. That's why LS swaps are so popular in everything now days, and why you see them in so many race car/buggies.
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The old time-money equation. If you have the time and the skills, I definitely think an LS-equipped JK is a very cool project. Maybe the power isn't quite what you'd get out of a Hemi but the LS engines have proven to be VERY reliable. If it weren't for emissions concerns, I'd say just grab an old TBI 350 and be done with it for very cheap, or hell even something with a Quadrajet on it. I assume the LS swap and Hemi swaps can be done in an emissions-compliant manner and that is why they are so common.

I mean if you could put just ANYTHING you wanted into a JK, there'd have to be at least one of these on the forum ...

632 Big Dawg Big Chief Big Block Chevrolet Pump Gas Crate Engine

I know it's probably got a pretty big cam in it, but I betcha it's still got enough low-end torque to get a JK up a steep hill ...
Not all states have smog checks. If I had the money I could put any motor I wanted in. But I think the bigger limitation besides smog is getting the motor to work with the electronics of the JK.

Also a carbureted motor would be a horrible rock crawler.
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I am selling my home in California. I'm looking to relocate in Idaho. There I can install my efficient, cleaner burning engine with no hassle from the state thugs.
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Some people run good reliable parts, and some people buy stuff at places like AutoZone and run the cheapest tires they can get...... I have LOTS of time tied up in researching a LS swap in a JK and know what cost what. And by your comment about spending the 10k that you "budgeted" for the swap on the motor alone tells me everything I need to know. Go blow smoke up someone else's ass.
I won't clutter his build thread anymore. You have your opinion and I have mine.
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An LS swap is very common in many arenas these days. A hemi is fine but there is not even close to as much aftermarket support as with LS. Obviously, with unlimited $ a person could put a nuclear reactor in a mail jeep (even in California). This dude wants help, advice and (possibly) opinions regarding an LS swap. I hope your project turns out just the way you want. Looking forward to seeing it do some hard core wheelin. If you are like me, part of the fun is just conquering the mechanical challenges. Good luck!
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If you are like me, part of the fun is just conquering the mechanical challenges. Good luck!
This is a big part of the project! For me, learning a new trade or something new and useful is more rewarding than having fun with the finished product. I can't wait. Little by little
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I got the printout schematic for the vortec out of a 1/2 ton. Let me know if you need them. I can email them to you sometime tomorrow?
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Voice your opinion dude... Thats why were here right? To discuss ideas...

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