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Old 07-24-2014, 10:39 AM   #1
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Question Do I deserve a Wrangler?

Hey,

I'm moving to Winnipeg, Canada around October time and I'm looking at cars (if you can call the Wrangler that).

I wondering what your opinion is on whether a Wrangler is just too much truck for what I actually need or whether that doesn't matter and owning a Wrangler is more about the fun factor (top down, high driving position, go anywhere mentality.. even if I don't).

I would like AWD/4WD for the inclement winters (to prevent me getting stuck not for safety reasons). But beyond that I'm fairly easy. It would be my sole vehicle. I can't foresee myself ever doing any hardcore rubicon style trails, just gravel off the beaten track roads but as I've read on this forum, once you own a Wrangler you can't help yourself.

I'd be purchasing on lease or finance and have I narrowed my choices down to the following:
  • Wrangler
  • Cherokee (new style)
  • Patriot
  • Ford Escape
  • Old (2008) Range Rover

What do you guys think? Would I be unwelcome/out of my depth in a Wrangler or does that just not matter.

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Get the wrangler. You know you want it

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Lots of people pick Wranglers 'just because'. They have no intention of off-roading or using the four wheel drive. They are affectionately known here as 'mall crawlers'.

I would think a Wrangler would be a great vehicle to own in Canada. You should research LSD vs. lockers for using in Canadian snow. Lots of people feel the LSD is better in those conditions.

A stock Wrangler can do more right off the lot that most people will ever subject it to. With the right driver, a stock jeep can go places a loaded/modded rubicon can't.

If you like the styling and understand that it's a Jeep and not a luxury sedan you'll fit right in.

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Old 07-24-2014, 10:48 AM   #4
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Get the wrangler. You know you want it
I have a sneaky suspicion that many of the answers will be similar
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Old 07-24-2014, 10:51 AM   #5
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If you have a pulse, then yes, get a Wrangler.
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Old 07-24-2014, 10:52 AM   #6
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Starbrite- Thanks for the welcome!

Mall crawler/soccer mum. In the UK its the yummy mummies in their range rovers.
Styling is great, it's something different too.
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  • Wrangler - Yes
  • Cherokee (new style) - Okay
  • Patriot - No
  • Ford Escape - No
  • Old (2008) Range Rover - Heck No
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"Wrangler - Yes"
Fair enough on this forum

"Cherokee (new style) - Okay"
I feel the same, new styling is not where near as nice as the other jeeps but bearable.

"Patriot - No"
How come?

"Ford Escape - No"
Too soft?

"Old (2008) Range Rover - Heck No"
This surprised me. In the UK they're highly sought after capable off-road and great on road.
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Old 07-24-2014, 11:07 AM   #9
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I think you have been bitten by the Jeep wrangler bug, you might be screwed, you may not cure yourself until you actually get one...
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I think you have been bitten by the Jeep wrangler bug, you might be screwed, you may not cure yourself until you actually get one...
I'm seriously worried that that might be the case. If my next car isn't a Jeep I'll always be thinking grass is greener
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Old 07-24-2014, 11:17 AM   #12
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Just remember:

OJCD - Obsessive Jeep Compulsive Disorder

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JEEP - Just Empty Every Pocket

First one - yes.
Second one, to confirm, is that the ease of entry for petty criminals?
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I'm seriously worried that that might be the case. If my next car isn't a Jeep I'll always be thinking grass is greener
I completely understand.
I have been thinking about buying a wrangler literally EVERY DAY for the past four months!
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First one - yes.
Second one, to confirm, is that the ease of entry for petty criminals?
No, that's what you'll be doing to anesthetize your compulsion.
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Being a previous Grand Cherokee owner I am very fond of them and would highly suggest one if you are only going to use it for the scenarios you have described and it will prove a much nicer daily driver than the Wrangler.

That being said I traded my fully loaded immaculate Grand Cherokee Limted in on my lifted/modded Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon. Why? Because I enjoy the off-road aspect and wheel the hell out of it whenever time permits. Mud, rocks, logs, snow, whatever my JKUR takes me through it.

There are a few threads out there about the JK's not being that good in the snow/ice which I have not been able to fully test yet as I made the trade right at the end of last years harsh Michigan snoapocolypse. But I can tell you my Grand Cherokee handled amazingly well in the snow and ice.

As for your other options. Forget them, they aren't real options.
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I'm seriously worried that that might be the case. If my next car isn't a Jeep I'll always be thinking grass is greener
Yes, you HAVE to get the Jeep Wrangler at this point or you will forever wonder what you missed. It could be so much stress that it could actually shorten your lifespan.

Also, owning a Jeep is such a passion that you will come to realize that every time someone calls a Jeep a car, a kitten dies... it's that bad!
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Old 07-24-2014, 11:31 AM   #17
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Good advice, thank you!
GC over plain old Cherokee? any particular reason or just from personal experience?
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Old 07-24-2014, 11:31 AM   #18
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Hey man! No question about it. Get the Wrangler. I went from a honda fit to the the Wrangler and haven't looked back. Not bad on gas, I average 9.7ish-10 L/100 km hwy. Not terrible. the Fit was like, 6-7 hwy.

The roads here are absolute horse crap too.
What else.. there's some good offroading too, here in the prairies. What else do we have to do, we dont have mountains.

When you do move and eventually buy your Wrangler, don't forget to look up and subscribe to the Manitoba thread! This way if you have any questions about your new jeep or want to get together for some riding you can bring it up there.

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"Wrangler - Yes"
Fair enough on this forum

"Cherokee (new style) - Okay"
I feel the same, new styling is not where near as nice as the other jeeps but bearable.

"Patriot - No"
How come?

"Ford Escape - No"
Too soft?

"Old (2008) Range Rover - Heck No"
This surprised me. In the UK they're highly sought after capable off-road and great on road.
Key word "Maintenance"
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Old 07-24-2014, 11:32 AM   #20
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Oh no! I better start a cattery.
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Old 07-24-2014, 11:33 AM   #21
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I live in Canada. I found that the wrangler is the perfect car for this country. With all the different terrain and weather awd is a must, my choices came to the jeep or a subaru.

Wrangler beats a cherokee by the fun factor. Both are roughly starting in the same price range.

Patriot is obsolete in a couple years

Ford is for those concerned about has prices

And range rover ive never been to fond of.


End result getting a wrangler gets the final nod because you will spend hundreds of thousands of km smiling anf loving every minute of it
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The Grand Cherokee is the Cherokee on steroids. Creature comforts as well as performance. Again Grand Cherokee or Wrangler are the only two choices I would recommend IMO.
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Hey man! No question about it. Get the Wrangler. I went from a honda fit to the the Wrangler and haven't looked back. Not bad on gas, I average 9.7ish-10 L/100 km hwy. Not terrible. the Fit was like, 6-7 hwy.

The roads here are absolute horse crap too.
What else.. there's some good offroading too, here in the prairies. What else do we have to do, we dont have mountains.

When you do move and eventually buy your Wrangler, don't forget to look up and subscribe to the Manitoba thread! This way if you have any questions about your new jeep or want to get together for some riding you can bring it up there.

Manitoba!! Whats going on!?
So your offloading is just driving the city's potholes
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End result getting a wrangler gets the final nod because you will spend hundreds of thousands of km smiling anf loving every minute of it
This is the exact reason why the Wrangler is top of the list! All of the other options are arguably capable in snow, but none of them have the smile factor as far as i'm aware
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This is the exact reason why the Wrangler is top of the list! All of the other options are arguably capable in snow, but none of them have the smile factor as far as i'm aware
Then you know what to do, sounsa like our work here is done lol
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The Grand Cherokee is the Cherokee on steroids. Creature comforts as well as performance. Again Grand Cherokee or Wrangler are the only two choices I would recommend IMO.
We traded in a 2012 GC AWD for one of the new Acura MDX with the SH-AWD. Don't know how the MDX will hold up against the GC because the GC was amazing on snow and ice. The GC is great, but doesn't have the JK fun factor. You can do so much more with a JK. It also comes with a standard 15 to 20 years of age reduction.
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Then you know what to do, sounsa like our work here is done lol
Alternative now is a Cherokee/Grand Cherokee with a sun roof
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This stupid phone app is being troublesome or I would post a pic of my jeep with no roof or doors
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IMHO people buy a vehicle for 3 reasons:
Performance - speed, mileage or off road performance. These are usually younger buyers
Prestige - what other people think of you for owning it. This can be high end models like a BWM or on certain circles having a tricked out off road macine.
Luxury - how good it feels inside and the options it has (these are usually older drivers)
These are the somewhat rational reasons and it fits for most vehicles.

The fun factor is something that defies all these. You can try to define it but you can't really put it in something that doesnt fit the above reasons (except maybe top/doors off). I hear people say all the time you need a GC or some other 4wd if you don't off road heavy and that way of thinking completely misses the fun factor. A wrangler simply is FUN and very few other autos have ever really had that factor. To me it is what brings the smile to my face every day. Its why I love my Jeep despite the fact its slow, doesnt allow me to show off to people I am around and it really isn't as luxurious as other vehicles I have owned have been. But it is still something I never want to be without...
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Life is too short for "what ifs?" and regrets. Get the Wrangler and don't look back. Unless you have the top and doors off and need to change lanes.



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