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Old 12-02-2009, 06:39 AM   #1
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Do The Keys Have Chips in Them?

Hello Everyone,

I want to have an automatic starter put in my girlfriends 07 Wrangler for Christmas. My question is, do the keys have the little computer chips in them like other cars keys do? (I know with my 2000 Nissan Maxima I had to give up one of my spare keys so they could remove the computer chip from it for the automatic starter to be installed.)

The problem is, my girlfriend only has one main key and then her spare which I think looks different than the main key. (The top cap on the key is a different color right?) So if it would require giving up a key, then I would have to explain where the main key went - ya know?

Excuse me for being Jeep illiterate guys.

Thanks a lot, I appreciate any help.

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My 06 has the sentry key system, so I would bet that her 07 does as well. Your spare key should also be programmed with the chip. Test it out by starting the Jeep with the spare, if it continues running, then it is programmed as well. These keys are NOT cheap to have replaced.

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Old 12-02-2009, 07:38 AM   #3
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My 08 came with two identical keys. Both have chips in them. Dealer wants over $200.00 to make a new one.
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You can buy blanks cheap on Ebay & program them yourself if you have two good keys. The instructions are in the owner's manual.
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Old 12-03-2009, 06:48 AM   #5
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Hey Guys,

Thanks for the replies.

So is the other key that I am thinking about possibly just a door key? (Although I really think I've seen her use that key to run the car once or twice.) I guess it would really help if I dug up that key so I could be more specific.

Does anyone have any further knowledge on this? Is the truck supposed to have 2 main keys and then a spare/door key, or...? This is an '07 by the way.

As far as buying one off ebay and getting it programmed. How would I do that, would it cost more money to get it programmed? The key of course I don't need, just the chip inside for the installers to do whatever with. This is a very viable idea, I appreciate it.

The problem that occured was that one of the original keys was lost two years ago due to the loss a family member. My girlfriend works 70 hours a week (has for the last 3 years) and gets up at 5:00 am everyday to be there at 6:00. You can understand why I want to get her the remote starter. But - I'd like to still keep it a surprise if I can, shes got a kids heart for a 25 year old.

Thanks a lot. I appreciate any further opinions, explainations, advice.

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You could order the blank from e-bay and then talk to a locksmith about programming the chip for you. I have an 06 and had to have the dealer program my 2nd key, but I have read that if you have the original key, you can program the 2nd one yourself. I'm not sure if that would be the case in an 07, but I am sure that a locksmith can help you out with it or even the person who is installing the system for you.
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Old 12-03-2009, 10:17 AM   #7
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My local Ace hardware has a sign out front advertising cheap aftermarket vehicle keys and listed Jeeps on their application chart. Not sure what that is all about, but if they are cheap and effective backups, I may buy a couple before I lose one. Anyone else seen or heard about this? I will try to look into it and report back.
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From the '09 Owners Manual, I suspect other years in the JK would work similarly:
Customer Key Programming
If you have two valid Sentry Keys, you can program
new Sentry Keys to the system by performing the
following procedure:
1. Cut the additional Sentry Key Transponder blank(s)
to match the ignition switch lock cylinder key code.
2. Insert the first valid key into the ignition switch. Turn
the ignition switch to the ON position for at least three
seconds, but no longer than 15 seconds. Then, turn the
ignition switch to the LOCK position and remove the first
key.
3. Insert the second valid key into the ignition switch.
Turn the ignition switch to the ON position within
15 seconds. After 10 seconds, a chime will sound. In
addition, the Vehicle Security Light will begin to flash.
Turn the ignition switch to the LOCK position and
remove the second key.
4. Insert a blank Sentry Key into the ignition switch.
Turn the ignition switch to the ON position within
60 seconds. After 10 seconds, a single chime will sound.
In addition, the Vehicle Security Light will stop flashing.
To indicate that programming is complete, the Vehicle
Security Light will turn on again for three seconds and
then turn off.
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^ this right here is all you need to know if you still have 2 working keys. then you need to get a blank from either the web, i have heard, or pony up the big bucks at the dealer. if you only have one working key you will have to still get a blank or two if you want and have the dealer program it for you for some rediculously high amount.
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From the '09 Owners Manual, I suspect other years in the JK would work similarly:
Customer Key Programming
If you have two valid Sentry Keys, you can program
new Sentry Keys to the system by performing the
following procedure:
1. Cut the additional Sentry Key Transponder blank(s)
to match the ignition switch lock cylinder key code.
2. Insert the first valid key into the ignition switch. Turn
the ignition switch to the ON position for at least three
seconds, but no longer than 15 seconds. Then, turn the
ignition switch to the LOCK position and remove the first
key.
3. Insert the second valid key into the ignition switch.
Turn the ignition switch to the ON position within
15 seconds. After 10 seconds, a chime will sound. In
addition, the Vehicle Security Light will begin to flash.
Turn the ignition switch to the LOCK position and
remove the second key.
4. Insert a blank Sentry Key into the ignition switch.
Turn the ignition switch to the ON position within
60 seconds. After 10 seconds, a single chime will sound.
In addition, the Vehicle Security Light will stop flashing.
To indicate that programming is complete, the Vehicle
Security Light will turn on again for three seconds and
then turn off.
seems like it might be nice to sticky this, or put ^ that ^ bit in a new thread and sticky it so people can avoid having to spend butt loads of money to program new keys
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Old 12-10-2009, 11:39 AM   #11
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Thank you for the great reply. That information is very useful! With that in mind, that means I'm basically SOL with 1 key?

Does you 09 have a key fab as well? I know my barbers 08 has a a key fab directly on the key because he has power doors and an alarm I beleive. My girlfriends truck does not FYI - no power doors or alarm so just the basic key.

So I guess my first order of business is ordering a couple spares off of Ebay and then talking to A) a couple installers to see if they can help, or B) the dealer I guess. Also, my landlord who also does business with my father owned a hardware store for 30 years before he retired. He's a very smart guy, he could potentially help as well.

I know this is a little too much information but this whole thing is a bit of a sad story. My girlfriend gave the spare to her father, who was battling cancer at the time. He was married to a women who was not so kind of a person and when he passed she didn't want to communicate with the lady anymore, let a lone ask for her car key. For all we know its probably in the landfill anyways. Her dad was a long time customer of the dealership so if all else, maybe they could be compassionate. Shouldn't the title holder have a key as well? But they are out in east-ja-bum*** somewhere so that wouldn't do me any good.

Thanks for all you help guys.

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Ed,

If you have one key, I think you can program a new key or new keys yourself. All keys to be programmed must be present even if only one key is being added. Without that one key already working for your jeep, the only way to get new keys is very expensive because it involves getting them from the dealer and having the dealer reprogram the key(s).

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For what it's worth, I have an '08 2 dr X with manual everything - windows, doors, tranny. I only got one key with the vehicle (bought used). My local Ace, though they advertised that they could duplicate chipped keys, couldn't duplicate mine. Had to go to Jeep dealer. I think they gave me a bit of a break since I bought the key there, don't remember exact cost but it was $50+, programming took about 5 min. and I was good to go.
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Ed,

If you have one key, I think you can program a new key or new keys yourself. All keys to be programmed must be present even if only one key is being added. Without that one key already working for your jeep, the only way to get new keys is very expensive because it involves getting them from the dealer and having the dealer reprogram the key(s).

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Thanks Jk'n,

I appreciate your input a lot. I'm going to order the blank keys right now and when they come in just try and do whatever I can to get things up in motion. Since you all helped me out so much I will post my results when I speak with the installers to see if they can help me out.

Assuming this whole transponder thing is universal, anyone with access to the right equipment, not just a Jeep specific dealer should be able to help me out.

FYI, as someone kindly alerted me to, they sell the blanks on ebay. One of the people on there has a seperate off ebay website. They sell the keys a bit cheaper off ebay because they can avoid the fees, of course I won't advertise for them on here, but if you need blanks and look on ebay I'm sure you'll find them. I think it saves me 3-4$ per key (I'm going to get 2) to buy off his website as opposed to ebay.

Thanks again,
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Liv, I must have been typing that day when you responded.

Thank you for that info. My landlords hardware store was actually an Ace, but I spoke with him and he said hes lost his contacts over the last few years. I am actually going to call a locksmith in a couple that I was refered to by a company I do work for. Fingers crossed.

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