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Old 05-06-2010, 11:36 AM   #31
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On a side note, I think people who use a bed cover, a bed liner, or Rhine line the bed of a truck are idiots. What are you protecting? That's what the bed is for? I throw cinder blocks in it, rocks, wood, anything.... It's beat to hell and back. Who are you saving it for, the next person that buys your truck? Is it gonna add value? NO!
Us it for what it's for, don't protect it. It amazes me, people will buy a brand new truck, buy a bed cover painted the same color, and buy a trailer to haul stuff on. Then, park the truck in the yard, and park their lawnmowers in the garage! Why? The truck is worth more! And also, go out and buy a brand new Jeep and beat it to hell while still trying to protect the bed of the truck!

Simply unbelievable!
now i cant speak for everyone, but we rhino lined out f150 cause both my kayak and some of the other stuff we carry on a regular basis would act like sand paper and tear down the paint on the bed. if your truck is used only for hailing stuff then its not really an issue, but our truck is our primary travel vehicle, and we did not feel like dealing with rust issues when we have our bags and other stuff in the back. not to mention, any bare metal around here will rust through in all of a year, and holes in the truck bed isnt something we are to fond of, especially on a newer truck.
we also got a folding cover to protect out belongings when they are in the bed from the elements. nice thing is it folds up, so we have no problem hauling brush and stuff.

some people who buy trucks and pamper then confuse the crap out of me, but products like rhino lining and bed covers do serve a pretty useful purpose for those of use who use and abuse our trucks, but dont want them rusting away and falling apart before the trucks time is up.

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heh Heh, thats funny, it's your vehicle-do what you want

I even WAX my jeep--HEAVY---

When I come back from --DIRT-- I just hose it off, I don't have to wash it

So it ain't dirty and it NEVER GETS MUDDY !!

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I've owned several trucks, and I've never had a bed rust through due to weather. None of my trucks have rusted holes in them, and I literally throw everything in the back of them. It has multiple dents and mostly exposed metal. If you are up north and worried about salty roads, then Rhino liner won't help that. That comes from under the vehicle. bed liners will cause a bed to rust out faster than leaving as is, already proven. As far as bags and protecting it, again, it's a truck, not a minivan, not an SUV, not a station wagon. I own a 00 minivan and a 99 Protege for shopping and getting around town. Bought them dirt cheap, great gas mileage, better than my Jeep or my trucks, and better than most of the new vehicles that are being sold new as "better on gas". you can pick up a used car for about as much as someone would pay for a bed cover painted to match the truck.
to each his own though....
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I've owned several trucks, and I've never had a bed rust through due to weather. None of my trucks have rusted holes in them, and I literally throw everything in the back of them. It has multiple dents and mostly exposed metal. If you are up north and worried about salty roads, then Rhino liner won't help that. That comes from under the vehicle. bed liners will cause a bed to rust out faster than leaving as is, already proven. As far as bags and protecting it, again, it's a truck, not a minivan, not an SUV, not a station wagon. I own a 00 minivan and a 99 Protege for shopping and getting around town. Bought them dirt cheap, great gas mileage, better than my Jeep or my trucks, and better than most of the new vehicles that are being sold new as "better on gas". you can pick up a used car for about as much as someone would pay for a bed cover painted to match the truck.
to each his own though....
humidity is a rust issue any where on the vehicle.
having cars to drive around for the day to day stuff is nice, but some people just dont have the room for 4 or 5 vehicles. for those who use a truck for things where only a truck will do, but cant have a bunch of different vehicles, stuff like rhino lining is actually a pretty good idea.
not trying to hate on what your doing, just different situations call for different solutions.
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your'e right, I guess I forget sometimes about where I am. I just got it on my mind of a few people I know. One bought a truck to haul a camper, he never put stuff in the back. never! We were loading some chairs once and he freaked because we scuffed the paint in the back. his truck finally broke down and sat for several months. I told him the bed sure looked good sitting there under those pines while it was waiting to be fixed.
Other situations is when I see a woman driving a F250 full cab with a bed cover to the grocery store and loading three bags in the back.

Or a coworker who has a brand new car that he washes every three days and gripes because he parks it under pine trees and it's got pine sap all over it. He can't park it in his garage, the one with a riding and push mower in it.
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I struck up a brief conversation with a lady in the parking lot at work the other day. She was driving a new 2 door Rubi . I told her that I'm shopping around for an Unlimited and she was very excited to show me her new Jeep and tell me all about it...likes and dislikes. She then asked what I'm driving now. I pointed across the parking lot to my 1997 Dodge Ram 1500.

The very first thing out of her mouth was that she used to have a full size pickup and that she really missed having the full size bed.

This got me thinking. Over the past 13 years with my truck, I've come to take it for granted that I can carry just about anything I want...dirtbikes, drywall, furniture, camping gear, dogs, whatever.

So, any of you guys/gals that came from pickup ownership miss having a full bed?
No, I bought a 4x8 flatbed trailer, sits in my back yard except for when I need it. And I have only used it twice in the last year, not sure I even need it. I use to ride dirt bikes and used it a lot then.
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i didnt own a fullsize but a tacoma 4dr with short bed and the only thing i miss will be hauling dirt or mulch, everything else i can put in the unlimited with seats down, so far.

and i need to convince the wife i need a utility trailer for just that but i would rarely use it except for 4x8 sheets and loose materials, everything else ill put in the jeep.
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your'e right, I guess I forget sometimes about where I am. I just got it on my mind of a few people I know. One bought a truck to haul a camper, he never put stuff in the back. never! We were loading some chairs once and he freaked because we scuffed the paint in the back. his truck finally broke down and sat for several months. I told him the bed sure looked good sitting there under those pines while it was waiting to be fixed.
Other situations is when I see a woman driving a F250 full cab with a bed cover to the grocery store and loading three bags in the back.

Or a coworker who has a brand new car that he washes every three days and gripes because he parks it under pine trees and it's got pine sap all over it. He can't park it in his garage, the one with a riding and push mower in it.
i definitely see where your coming from, ive seen a lot of people who buy trucks just to have that "image" and it does confuse me as to why they do some of the stuff they do. like lining the bed with carpet, that will always confuse the heck out of me.
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i definitely see where your coming from, ive seen a lot of people who buy trucks just to have that "image" and it does confuse me as to why they do some of the stuff they do. like lining the bed with carpet, that will always confuse the heck out of me.
When I had my S10 I took a sheet of half inch plywood and cut it to fit around the wheel wells, covered it in tan astro turf, and it looked great, was cheap and protected the bed quite well.
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I've owned many vehicles, and right now own several. One is a Ford Ranger. I do miss the full size bed of a full size truck , nothing like hauling stuff. Especially long stuff like 12 foot long.

On a side note, I think people who use a bed cover, a bed liner, or Rhine line the bed of a truck are idiots. What are you protecting? That's what the bed is for? I throw cinder blocks in it, rocks, wood, anything.... It's beat to hell and back. Who are you saving it for, the next person that buys your truck? Is it gonna add value? NO!
Us it for what it's for, don't protect it. It amazes me, people will buy a brand new truck, buy a bed cover painted the same color, and buy a trailer to haul stuff on. Then, park the truck in the yard, and park their lawnmowers in the garage! Why? The truck is worth more! And also, go out and buy a brand new Jeep and beat it to hell while still trying to protect the bed of the truck!

Simply unbelievable!
Ok, you pay me the $33,000.00 I paid for my new 2010 F-150 4X4 and I will pull the liner out of the bed of my truck and take the Xtang cover off it. Then I will toss bricks in to dent it up just to conform to your way of thinking!
Deal.....?
Thought: Maybe you should let others live like they want and not call them idiots if they don't think or live exactly like you do
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On a side note, I think people who use a bed cover, a bed liner, or Rhine line the bed of a truck are idiots.
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Wow, I just got called an idiot by someone who never met me! I have a bed liner and a cover. Would not be without either. It is a truck, and I use it as such, but love that cover to..., well I am not going to explain myself, I will just live with my idiot status

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Ok, you pay me the $33,000.00 I paid for my new 2010 F-150 4X4 and I will pull the liner out of the bed of my truck and take the Xtang cover off it. Then I will toss bricks in to dent it up just to conform to your way of thinking!
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You paid 33k for an F150?
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You paid 33k for an F150?
Actually, after discounts and trade in, it was less, but the sticker was over 33K as it is brand new 4X4 with the extended cab. Sweet truck. What was the sticker or list on your Unlimited? Bet that was not cheap either
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Wow, I just got called an idiot by someone who never met me! I have a bed liner and a cover. Would not be without either. It is a truck, and I use it as such, but love that cover to..., well I am not going to explain myself, I will just live with my idiot status

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Look at it this way Bob, we are both idiots with nice trucks with bed covers and bed liners. I bet you and I are the only ones in the world too with trucks like that...LOL!!!


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Look at it this way Bob, we are both idiots with nice trucks with bed covers and bed liners. I bet you and I are the only ones in the world too with trucks like that...LOL!!!


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Oh yeah. I sold a 2005 Power Wagon before I got the Wrangler. We really missed the truck for hauling stuff so we sold the wife's Neon POS and bought her a 2009 Tacoma!

Oh and BTW - it came with a liner and we installed an UnderCover lid. I'm such an idiot.
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Oh yeah. I sold a 2005 Power Wagon before I got the Wrangler. We really missed the truck for hauling stuff so we sold the wife's Neon POS and bought her a 2009 Tacoma!

Oh and BTW - it came with a liner and we installed an UnderCover lid. I'm such an idiot.
Those Taco's are good trucks. I wouldn't mind having one.
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For those very large items you need to get a few times a year, Rent a big flat bed truck at Home Depot/Lowes for $19 for 75 minutes. At least down here.

Park your jeep there, buy your stuff, rent the truck, load it in the rented truck, take it home, unload it, take the truck back and get your vehicle.

Takes a little bit more time, but is easier than borrowing or renting from Uhaul/Rental agency.
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You paid 33k for an F150?
Extended cab, yeah they sure get a lot for an extra 16 inches of truck.

I paid right at $24k for my JK.
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Extended cab, yeah they sure get a lot for an extra 16 inches of truck.

I paid right at $24k for my JK.
Did you buy it brand new for that price? What was the sticker if you don't mind me asking if you bought it new? Seems the new 2010 JK Unlimited's I have seen sticker for around $29 to 30K plus....
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I had an F-250 that I replaced with a 2010 2 door Sport. I never used the Ford to it's full potential, no heavy towing or big loads so I figured why keep it.

I can get everything I need for a day's work in the JK with the rear seats removed and a platform storage area I built. It will haul an amazing amount of stuff with room left over for picking up a few pieces of firewood on the way home.

I also have a little utility trailer for trips to the dump.
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Wow.
My standard cab shortbed F150 was $13,200 out the door when I bought it in 2000.
I loved that truck; the only problem it ever had was the shift knob fell off. Got an F250 knob under warranty.
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Did you buy it brand new for that price? What was the sticker if you don't mind me asking if you bought it new? Seems the new 2010 JK Unlimited's I have seen sticker for around $29 to 30K plus....
Yup, brand new and that was sticker,, I did a build my own on the Jeep website and on the KBB site, then I shopped around until I found a dealer that would honor or better the website prices, the big "discount" dealer in my area wanted around $5K more for the same options. Funny the big dealer's stickers showed the $5k more????

If you go to KBB.com and do a price with options for an 09 JK X unlimited manual, with limited slip, and 3:73 gears (they don't seem to have a tow package option for manual trans in 09) MSRP is $25.3k Invoice is $23.8K and what they say consumers are actually paying is $24.0K.

I did the same thing when I bought my wife's Honda Element. What I enjoyed about that was - the wife went with me to the big dealer, really loved the Element and the salesman thought he had us hooked.,He actually ordered an Element with the options and color my wife wanted. Two weeks later I found a dealer that would honor the website prices, but he didn't have one in stock right color and options. So did a dealer trade with the big dealer for the one just ordered.
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I couldn't imagine my life without a truck. Furthermore I couldn't throw ANYTHING in the back without a bed liner. I don't understand why someone would damage there truck like that? I for damn sure wouldn't buy a truck that had a bed all banged up, so I would say it does depreciate the value. As for the cover? I don't have one but it would be nice to have the added security for the stuff I keep in the back on occasion.

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Those Taco's are good trucks. I wouldn't mind having one.
Here's the wife's:

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Needs a lift and bigger rubber but she likes it like it is and it is her truck. More money for the Jeep i guess.
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Here's the wife's:

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Needs a lift and bigger rubber but she likes it like it is and it is her truck. More money for the Jeep i guess.
Nice truck Gus, I miss my old Toyota.
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Thanks! I'll pass on the compliments to the wife. It will make her day since she loves her truck a lot. Sometimes she even let's me drive it. And wash it. And make the payments.

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