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Old 05-12-2011, 09:45 PM   #1
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Do you leave the sway bar connected?

Do you disconnect the sway bar when off roading or leave it connected?

I did a test I've done with every 4x4 I've ever owned. The double ramp test.

Take 2 of the red metal repair ramps. Put one in front of the right front tire and the other in front of the left rear. Select 4L and drive up the ramps. Does the vehicle have enough suspension articulation to make it to the top of the ramps?

91 Wrangler did not until I disconnected the sway bar.
71 Bronco did (non OEM suspension)
69 CJ-5 did
88 Isuzu Trooper did not
88 Toyota 4x4 truck did not
79 IH Scout did (4" lift helped)

2008 JKU did not. I assume if I disconnect the front sway bar it would.

So here's the question - Is the JK-X going to be as pathetic off-road as my 91 Wrangler (stock, 225x75R15 tires) was? Even with the sway bar disconnected, the 91 was nothing special. The JK has more clearance and much better tires though.

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.....according to most if not all reports the jk scores higher on the rti than ANY other previous jeep.....the rubi scores higher than the other jk's strictly due to the disco and spring rate(in most cases). I'll put a stock jk rubi or not against any other jeep(stock) as far as offroad capabilities goes, especially one with leaf-springs!

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Old 05-12-2011, 10:29 PM   #3
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91 Wrangler did not until I disconnected the sway bar.
71 Bronco did (non OEM suspension)
69 CJ-5 did
88 Isuzu Trooper did not
88 Toyota 4x4 truck did not
79 IH Scout did (4" lift helped)

2008 JKU did not. I assume if I disconnect the front sway bar it would.
So the only stockers that made it are wranglers or CJs. Nice. Disco your sways and try again with the JK.

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So here's the question - Is the JK-X going to be as pathetic off-road as my 91 Wrangler (stock, 225x75R15 tires) was? Even with the sway bar disconnected, the 91 was nothing special. The JK has more clearance and much better tires though.
Better tires, better axles, great 4 Lo, easy disco sway bars, great clearance, stock skid plates, removable doors/top for visibility, crazy room in the wheel wells for articulation . . . and that's not even the rubi, which adds selectable lockers, e-discos, even deeper t-case, even more HD front axle, stock rails, etc. And that doesn't even consider how easy they are to modify.

You're good dude--don't worry about it.
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So the only stockers that made it are wranglers or CJs. Nice. Disco your sways and try again with the JK.



Better tires, better axles, great 4 Lo, easy disco sway bars, great clearance, stock skid plates, removable doors/top for visibility, crazy room in the wheel wells for articulation . . . and that's not even the rubi, which adds selectable lockers, e-discos, even deeper t-case, even more HD front axle, stock rails, etc. And that doesn't even consider how easy they are to modify.

You're good dude--don't worry about it.
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I always push that button that says "Sway" ... Makes life so easy
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I always push that button that says "Sway" ... Makes life so easy
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The double ramp test with masking tape across the gap between the door and door jamb near the door handle is a neat test for body/frame twist or tightness.
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Related question.

How well does the JK handle on-road with the sway bar disconnected?

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How well does the JK handle on-road with the sway bar disconnected?

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Very poorly. Way too much body roll and float.

This is why for non-Rubis it's a good idea to pick up some "quick discos" if you like to disconnect while wheeling.
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Poorly and unnecessarily. That's what the button is for.....
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How well does the JK handle on-road with the sway bar disconnected?

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If you have a Death Wish it handles perfect. If you prefer to live then don't do it.
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Old 05-13-2011, 11:58 PM   #14
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The factory electric disco wont disconnect in 2WD anyways, only on 4WD and only below 40mph (or could even be 25mph, cant remember). I have manul front discos and only disconnect with on a trail, at the end of the trail straight back on. I did have stiffer springs in it for a while and on the road up to 80km/hr (50mph) it handled fine, but with softer springs back in I wouldnt risk it past 60km/hr (bout 35mph).
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Old 05-14-2011, 10:53 AM   #15
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Yea, I don't have a Rubicon so the magic button isn't there. If i want to disconnect my sway bar it will mean time on my knees hugging the front bumper.

Waaaay back when I had my brand new 91 Wrangler, I disconnected the sway bar and left it that way for a year. Reconnected it when I moved from NM to VT. The jeep was my DD and the only down side that I recall was more body lean in the corners - about equal to my 69 CJ-5. I slowed down on the turns and that was it.

In a week or so I'll have some time and plan on disconnecting the 'bar and seeing how the JKU handles.

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I've got QD's and I've driven it to the car wash several times disconnected after wheeling and never had a problem. There is more body roll but if you don't drive like a f'n idiot....

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