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Old 02-14-2012, 06:05 PM   #1
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Does a MOPAR 2012 2-way remote start module exist?

Hey all,

I got my first jeep today and am already looking at doing a quick upgrade. I have the factory remote start in my 2012 JK, but I'd like to add a 2-way module if one exists.

I see there is a kit for the 2010 model, but was wondering if it exists yet for the 2011-2012s?

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Hey all,

I got my first jeep today and am already looking at doing a quick upgrade. I have the factory remote start in my 2012 JK, but I'd like to add a 2-way module if one exists.

I see there is a kit for the 2010 model, but was wondering if it exists yet for the 2011-2012s?


none that i am aware of, however, you can add a "T" harness to the factory wiring at the ignition and transponder unit, and a DBALL (see below) module for RSR (remote start ready) vehicles and use the factory remote to control it, and if you'd like you can add the Viper Smart Start module and control it from your smart phone.

Or if you would like you could just install a higher end 2 way remote start unit.

DBALL is DEI's interface module for canbus systems. (XpressKit.com - Interfacing the Past, Present and Future.)
The new Chrysler vehicles are completely computer controlled starting systems, so all you need is the correct data interface installed and the vehicle is good to go.

9 years experience installing remote start systems, and 2012 JKU owner with a 2 way system and Smart Start addon for my phone.

if you have questions on any of it, hit me up




-edit ... I'll ask my tech support people at work to see if they have a recommendation for you (i just noticed you said you already have factory remote start) ... (sorry i skipped right over that )

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Yeah another issue is I really don't want to use cell phone controls. I cannot bring a cell phone into work so wouldn't help hehe.
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i'm using the viper 5902 / 2 way with screen / works up to a mile away (within reason/limits) some buildings and structures reduce its range...

i honestly doubt you are going to find any sort of 2 way system to integrate with your factory system... you may just need to look into a quality 2 way aftermarket system to go along side the factory one.

but like i said, i will be more than happy to look into it at work on thursday (off tomorrow)
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9 years experience installing remote start systems, and 2012 JKU owner with a 2 way system and Smart Start addon for my phone.

if you have questions on any of it, hit me up
AHHH so happy i found this user!!!!
i just picked up my 2012 jku
i want to put my old python 990 in via my friend (best buy installer of approx 6 years)

he said he doesnt know much about the new wranglers and python 990

question 1 (haha i am SO happy i found you on this forum)
my biggest concern, by far, is voiding my warranty... the dealership said they may if i install it (they were on the fence).
thoughts on this

question 2
how do you feel about a 990 in a wrangler jku 12.... would you feel secure with it in there? again i am just super worried about the warranty

question 3
can you link me to the appropriate harness on quadratec or amazon or best buy or something (any one will do)
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Old 06-01-2012, 10:48 AM   #6
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AHHH so happy i found this user!!!!
i just picked up my 2012 jku
i want to put my old python 990 in via my friend (best buy installer of approx 6 years)

he said he doesnt know much about the new wranglers and python 990

question 1 (haha i am SO happy i found you on this forum)
my biggest concern, by far, is voiding my warranty... the dealership said they may if i install it (they were on the fence).
thoughts on this

question 2
how do you feel about a 990 in a wrangler jku 12.... would you feel secure with it in there? again i am just super worried about the warranty

question 3
can you link me to the appropriate harness on quadratec or amazon or best buy or something (any one will do)

1 - Your warranty is fine, companies like Best Buy would not install alarm and remote start systems if they knowingly installed things that voided your warranty. Myself and other installers do this for a living on daily basis on 2012 and already some 2013 vehicles. Sure things can go wrong during the install, and if something does, Best Buy is fully insured to get the vehicle fixed... even if that means having the vehicle serviced by a Jeep dealer with Jeep parts. A lot of people are confused and have been misled about vehicle warranties and are quick to throw that in your face when you want to explore your options... (dealers do this a lot). check out the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act in place by the Federal Trade Commission. You can read most of it here: A Businessperson's Guide to Federal Warranty Law | BCP Business Center, or to understand how it would apply to something like an air filter change on your vehicle K&N's website does a great job of this here: Letter from K&N CEO - Automotive Dealers Voiding a Warranty due to a K&N Replacement Filter

2 - The Python 990 is a fantastic alarm remote starter unit. I have personally insalled many of these and had one of these on 2 vehicles I've owned over the years. The 990 is a few years old but it does the same thing as a new model Viper with the exception of a few minor things. The 990 does NOT have a manual transmission mode option. New model Viper systems such as the 5901, 5902, 5904 all have these manual transmission mode features. If you have a stick shift there is no fail safe built in the 990 to prevent starting in gear. Yes, the 990 can be installed on a manual transmission with a couple relays and tricks, but from my understanding this is against Best Buy's policies to do this because of liability and DEI (manufacturer of Viper, Python, and other alarm systems) tech support will not even talk to you about a remote start on a manual transmission unless it is a newer unit that supports this feature. The Python 990 is VERY similar to a Viper 791xv. So tell your friend the wiring and brain and everything else is almost identical. If he's a BB installer he has access to the Viper and Python install manuals from his dealer log-in on the Directechs page.

3 - Links to some of the modules you might want to check out are listed below. I did not use the "T" harness on mine, But it will make the install go a lot quicker. The "T" harness model is CHTHD2. The other part you will need is called a DBALL. The DBALL is a data box that reads and sends codes to and from the factory CANBUS system. This little box does a lot of things for you and your installer to make the install a lot easier. It controls the Jeep's locks, arms and disarms the factory alarm system, senses all the door triggers, overrides the factory chip key immobilizer to allow the remote start portion to happen, monitors brake shut down, monitors the tach signal of the vehicle, and even allows you to control the aftermarket viper/python from the factory remote (the python remote will be the recommended option though).

DEI's listing of parts - XpressKit.com - Compatibility Search Results

DBALL - Databus All Interface Module

DBALL on sale - http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...SearchClickout[query_id]=10066173&SearchClickout[Ignore]=1

CHTHD2 - CHTHD2

CHTHD2 on sale - http://www.amazon.com/Directed-Elect.../dp/B006J393IC

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Bobby - just bought a 2013 JK automatic with power and Uconnect, but without remote start. Is it possible to add the OEM version at reasonable cost?
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What does a "2-way" system do?
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7ekken i have a couple of questions if you don't mind

I have a 2012 JK with factory remote start. Living in the Arctic, you can appreciate the need for a good remote starter. I find Mopar's factor starter is not this.

I'd like to add Smart Start from DEI to my system. Can I do this by the following

The DBALL, T Harness and then DEI's smart start module? Is it that easy?

Thanks for your information so far

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