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Old 10-03-2013, 07:20 PM   #1
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Does Lifting/modifying your Wrangler void the warranty?

Just need to know before I do all these modifications. Will it void the warranty?


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Old 10-03-2013, 07:25 PM   #2
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Some stuff it will, some stuff it won't.

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Old 10-03-2013, 07:27 PM   #3
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It can only be voided if the modifications you made caused the part that needs warranty work to go bad.
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Old 10-03-2013, 07:44 PM   #4
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Well, I'm just doing a 2.5 BB and 33 inch tires. Head lights.....
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Old 10-03-2013, 07:45 PM   #5
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What has your research suggested?
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Old 10-03-2013, 07:51 PM   #6
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Its really iffy. I've heard some horror stories about how they flag your vehicle in the dealerships if you have modified your jeep. Then is makes it a long process, because they will connect the dots to see if the modification is directly connected to a faulty part. On the other hand, I've heard that some do not have any problems. Just thought i would put it out there to see how the masses has dealt with it.
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I have the Teraflex 2" keveling kit and 33" tires. Those are the only mechanical mods done. The service writer at dealership told me that the entire suspension and powertrain was no longer covered under warranty because of those mods. The mods were installed professionally.
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wow.....See....that's crazy!
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I have the Teraflex 2" keveling kit and 33" tires. Those are the only mechanical mods done. The service writer at dealership told me that the entire suspension and powertrain was no longer covered under warranty because of those mods. The mods were installed professionally.
Your dealer sucks lol plain and simple. I wouldnt leave my dealership until they installed my lift and tires. Very mod friendly. Just purchase or make friends with a dealer thats mod friendly.
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It can only be voided if the modifications you made caused the part that needs warranty work to go bad.
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Old 10-03-2013, 08:50 PM   #11
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That's why I am considering paying a small fee for the dealer to do labor on leveling if I need it. I think if they mod it they will be more receptive to coverage. Now after warranty no way.
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Old 10-03-2013, 08:51 PM   #12
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the only way to fully void a warranty is to surpass the mileage or time limit (or drive it into a lake or something). if you put your jeep on 40's with 60's front and rear and your sat radio goes out, they legally have to fix it.
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No, but if you have a shitty dealership, watch out. My dealership couldn't care less about mods. They sell modded Jeeps all the time and I've never been turned down for warranty work. Now the only caveat to this is if your mod directly caused the issue at hand or if you broke something on the trail. Then it can get iffy, but again, if your dealership is cool to modded Jeeps, most of the time they will take care of you.
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Old 10-03-2013, 09:00 PM   #14
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OK. I know a jeep dealer in my area that sells mod jeeps. So maybe i need to deal with them for repair issues....
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Old 10-03-2013, 09:05 PM   #15
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That is why it is smarter to play safe and wait till the warranty is over before starting to mod the jeep..... bigger tires over 5% of the biggest available size which means anything over33' will become a problem if your axles, transmission or engine have a problem because of the added stress to those parts to turn the bigger tires..... you can have a friendly dealership all you want, but show up there with a broken powertrain and get ready to not like them as much when you leave..... THEY can be friends, but the regional rep that gives the green light to go ahead and change those costly important parts under warranty doesn't know you...... even if the dealer says he knows the guy.... these guys rotate and change jobs... might be a different guy when you show up and they have all the arguments in the world to turn you away....... tons of guys modify new... very rarely does shit hit the fan..... question is.... do you want to gamble.???
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Well I run 35's on my Jeep with 3.5" of lift and had my outer tie rod ends pretty loose and worn after just 16k miles. I took it in and my dealer replaced everything no questions asked, under warranty. But I have a good dealer, so take it for what it is.
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No, but if you have a shitty dealership, watch out. My dealership couldn't care less about mods. They sell modded Jeeps all the time and I've never been turned down for warranty work. Now the only caveat to this is if your mod directly caused the issue at hand or if you broke something on the trail. Then it can get iffy, but again, if your dealership is cool to modded Jeeps, most of the time they will take care of you.
This. Look up Magnuson-Moss warranty act. From what I read a warranty cannot be voided at all.
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Sorry, but that's absolutely not the case. Read this article for some very good clarification on the purpose and real meaning of the Magnusson-Moss.

Don't Panic - The Warranty Voiding TSB Really Isn't That Big of a Deal

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But the main thing here is very simple: the manufacturer warranties the car as they produced it. Change the car, and the manufacturer is no longer responsible for the configuration of whatever you changed — you are. The Magnuson-Moss Act was not, and is not, intended to cover aftermarket parts that deviate from factory specification. Its intent then and now is to cover things like oil, filters, bulbs — common maintenance items — and preventing the OEM from requiring their captive brand of maintenance part in order to maintain warranty coverage (see §2302(c) for this section of the Act). You can use a Fram or Purolator or Mobil oil filter that’s equivalent to the OEM filter, for example. M-M does not, and has never intended that the OEM can’t void your powertrain warranty if you put a blower on it and pop the motor, or flash an aftermarket cal into the ECM that doesn’t have the OEM cal’s detonation protection strategy, leading to holes torched in piston tops.

Lots of aftermarket hot-rod companies hide behind Magnuson-Moss. They’re wrong. The better aftermarket companies warranty their product. The best warranty the downstream systems on the car from the consequences of using the product, effectively replacing the now-voided OEM warranty. They do it in writing, up front.

I ran into this all the time with the 4.6L 4V crowd, and the PowerStroke crowd. Folks just couldn’t grokk why Ford wouldn’t warranty their blowed-up engines and driveline parts after they’d increased power output by at least 50%, and often 100% or more over the stock value. They’d trot out Magnuson-Moss like it was some kind of magic shield.

Um, no.

Take a look at US Code Title 15, Chapter 50, § 2304(c). That tells you how an OEM can deny a warranty claim or outright void the related warranty, in the event of modification or abuse of the product, damage caused by the consumer, or failure of the consumer to properly maintain the product.
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This. Look up Magnuson-Moss warranty act. From what I read a warranty cannot be voided at all.
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Old 10-03-2013, 10:12 PM   #19
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Cliffs: be sure you buy your Jeep from a cool dealership.
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Old 10-03-2013, 10:43 PM   #20
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I have 4" lift with 35's...month after I did modifications passenger rear tire axle seal sprung a leak... dealer fixed with no questions asked or comments made...they were very nice and friendly...

I also took couple of bottles of cold original Russian Beer to the guy who did the paperwork and mechanic...they both were happy... a little appreciation goes a long way...
Best $10 I spend if you ask me...lol

And I bought a Jeep from out of town...
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Old 10-03-2013, 10:52 PM   #21
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JDoes Lifting/modifying your Wrangler void the warranty?
It probably won't affect anything to do with your radio but there's no guarantee about some other things.
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Old 10-04-2013, 05:54 AM   #22
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Just remember that dealerships have a certain play and right of judgement for small uncostly part that fails, cause the company warranty rep cannot show-up at all the dealers all the time for little stuff..... break anything major however like powertrain parts and your dealer cannot perform the repair without the approval of the rep.... they have absolutely no saying on wether it will be fixed or not.... the first thing rhe guy does is sesrch for a reason for the failure....
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It can only be voided if the modifications you made caused the part that needs warranty work to go bad.
Or if the modifications can be reasonably seen as evidence of abuse (such as off-roading or racing). Manufacturers can legally, unfortunately, completely void your warranty for any abuse.
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Old 10-04-2013, 06:41 AM   #24
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NO,A good jeep dealer like the one I have now will cover almost everything. He has even covered drive shafts 1 time on jeeps lifted to high without driveshaft kits.
The dealer told us he is one of the smallest jeep dealers in our area and now sells more jeep's than all of the other 3 huge dealerships combined.
I didn't buy my jeep from this dealer but he is my dealer forever now
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Sorry, but that's absolutely not the case. Read this article for some very good clarification on the purpose and real meaning of the Magnusson-Moss.

Don't Panic - The Warranty Voiding TSB Really Isn't That Big of a Deal

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I fail to see how what I quoted was not the case. In fact your article supported exactly the post above mine that I quoted. If you break it, they can deny work on the vehicle. They cant void your cars warranty. For instance you blow up you engine running nitrous, they are not going to warranty the engine aka refusing warranty. But if my window motor doesnt work and i just blew up the engine on my car with nitrous, i still have a warranty for the car and they will replace the defective window motor. Each state is different as well since the federal laws only give you some protections. My state is consumer friendly, but not all are. Like others have said make friends with a mod friendly dealer and they may even work with you. I have had dealers tell me they would even cover aftermarket parts (only that specific dealer) if I had them install it (gears and such). Although I would make sure to get that in writing.
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NO,A good jeep dealer like the one I have now will cover almost everything. He has even covered drive shafts 1 time on jeeps lifted to high without driveshaft kits.
The dealer told us he is one of the smallest jeep dealers in our area and now sells more jeep's than all of the other 3 huge dealerships combined.
I didn't buy my jeep from this dealer but he is my dealer forever now
It seems Jeep/Chrysler dealerships are all different and are not consistent in how they warranty vehicles. I have read plenty of dealership horror stories. I found a dealer that is fine with modding my Jeep. In fact they sell Jeeps lifted with bigger tires and custom wheels. Before I added any mods to my Jeep, I asked what their policy is in regards to after market parts and modifications. There response was " no repair under warranty can be refused unless the mod directly caused the failure." This dealership actually offers to take "new" Jeep Wrangler owners out once a month and shows you what your Jeep is capable of off road. Hopefully you live in an area that has multiple Jeep dealerships. Good luck.
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My Moab came with an AEV winch ready bumper. Bwalla a Warn Zeon. Dealer said it would stress the electrical system. My response : winch ready bumper....
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My Moab came with an AEV winch ready bumper. Bwalla a Warn Zeon. Dealer said it would stress the electrical system. My response : winch ready bumper....
from what I hear that bumper isnt winch ready, it needs a mounting plate that doesnt exist. that may have changed though.

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