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Old 10-04-2010, 10:39 AM   #1
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Driving Lights

Hello All - I just got my first jeep in November and am new to the forum. Anyway, I just swapped out the factory front bumper to a Rockhard Shorty with lowered winch plate (with the help of the forum) and had to remove the factory fog lights. I am looking to add some driving lights to the bumper, but have a couple questions since I am new to this.
1. Any recommendations on driving lights? I really can't spend more than $ 250-300 and am curious what the difference is in the IPF 968 and PIAA 540, besides $ 100.
2. Can I use the existing wiring harness for the recently removed fog lights?

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You have to pay attention to the wattage they draw. When I added new bumper, I went with the 4" Hella Optilux HIDS ($113 each on Amazon) to replace the fogs. They are labeled as driving lights, but have more of a fog pattern. Best part is they are 35W, same as stock, so you can use the factory wiring and retain factory controls. Very happy with the results, but also upgraded the dim yellow factory headlights for IPF H4s. The Hellas took maybe 45 minutes to install, including the two small holes drilled into the bumper. I used a splice kit so I could keep the factory plug ends, in case I ever went back.
If you go with more than 35W, then you will need to go through a relay and the wiring gets a little more complicated.

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Old 10-04-2010, 01:02 PM   #3
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Hellas are the way to go as far as I know, very powerful, and cheap.
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Old 10-04-2010, 01:56 PM   #4
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I just got the IPF 900 XS driving lights, and I think they look great. They are big, but REALLY light up the road. You can't use your stock harness with them though.
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Old 10-08-2010, 10:10 AM   #5
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Thanks all - any of these Hella's aboe to be submersed?
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Old 10-08-2010, 11:50 AM   #6
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Old 10-08-2010, 11:58 AM   #7
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Hey all,
I run the Hella Rallye 4000. I have them mounted on the bumper as a supplement to my headlights. I did have to run a relay for the higher wattage but it was well worth it. My friend describes my jeep as a 'mobile sun' at night
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In addition to lighting pattern and proper aiming, you have to be mindful of the output for highway safety. Most of the higher wattage options (some mentioned here) are for Off-road use only. If you drive on the streets with fogs on, you want at least quasi-legal lighting.
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Old 10-08-2010, 01:22 PM   #9
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Be sure if you head out West that you cover up them lights . . . whether they are on or not doesn't matter around here. I got a 135 dollar ticket for not having "opaque covers" on my lights, even though they were off and it was in broad day light.
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Old 10-08-2010, 02:52 PM   #10
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I have hella 500's mounted on the windshield mounts...I am also looking for an aftermarket solution to fill the holes in my rugged ridge xhd bumper since my 07 wrangler didn't come with factory fogs.
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Hey all,
I run the Hella Rallye 4000. I have them mounted on the bumper as a supplement to my headlights. I did have to run a relay for the higher wattage but it was well worth it.
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Hilldweller you're the man on a side note - if you plan on using the harnesses that IPF, Hella or PIAA send with their kits, make sure you plan your route under the hood very well. They DO NOT give you a whole lot of wire to work with so don't take the scenic route when fitting the wires.
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You have to pay attention to the wattage they draw. When I added new bumper, I went with the 4" Hella Optilux HIDS ($113 each on Amazon) to replace the fogs. They are labeled as driving lights, but have more of a fog pattern. Best part is they are 35W, same as stock, so you can use the factory wiring and retain factory controls. Very happy with the results, but also upgraded the dim yellow factory headlights for IPF H4s. The Hellas took maybe 45 minutes to install, including the two small holes drilled into the bumper. I used a splice kit so I could keep the factory plug ends, in case I ever went back.
If you go with more than 35W, then you will need to go through a relay and the wiring gets a little more complicated.
I thought the stocks were 24W from 2010? Did yours come with 35W and is that why you could switch without problems on the same harness? I'm worried that the CAN-BUS is gonna go nuts ...
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I thought the stocks were 24W from 2010? Did yours come with 35W and is that why you could switch without problems on the same harness? I'm worried that the CAN-BUS is gonna go nuts ...
It would be good to test.
I'm curious if the CANBUS is still sniffing for 45w like the earlier incarnations.
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I thought the stocks were 24W from 2010? Did yours come with 35W and is that why you could switch without problems on the same harness? I'm worried that the CAN-BUS is gonna go nuts ...
These were mounted on a 2009. My sons Sahara, where we replaced the factory bumper with one without fogs. My wife and I also each have 2010s. On hers we got lucky and it had the old style fogs so I simply swapped the bulbs for yellow. On mine I had the 24w so I just removed them and wired a new set of Hellas through an sPod on a new bumper.
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I'm pretty pleased with the IPF 968's I installed.



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