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Old 07-18-2013, 12:08 PM   #1
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Duractrac CUT on sidewall, normal? dangerous?

Hi I just bought some duratrac tire 33" rated E load and after one rock trail I found that on one tire. there are 2 place that are cut. The tire are brand new is it dangerous. If it blow will it really BLOW or just leak.

I'm planning to use it on the back as my spare but I don't have the spare now (on order) can I still do trail with that ( I have one this weekend)


This one on the stud if I force it open really hard I can see one metal wire tip that I think is like the last layer of the tire band.











This one is 2.5 mm deep but I don't see any metal





I was wondering if it was gonna continue to open more with time and if I melt the tire at the cut if it would melt it back together to stop the crack from getting bigger, I was thinking of a soldering iron maybe.


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Do NOT melt your tire. Get rid of that idea permanently.

I'd want to replace the tire depending on depth, but it's up to you. If you choose not to, keep a close eye on it. From the photos it doesn't appear to be more than surface cuts which can occur easily on a trail. I lost a chunk of one of my MT cleats on a rock in a river last weekend. It's still fine though.

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Another option would be: talk to whomever you bought the tires from and see if a warranty applies... Its a long shot but asking never hurt anyone. I know one guy with Dick Cypec mud tires who posted on here and had a hell of a time with the warranty but he managed to get a replacement.
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"Do NOT melt your tire. Get rid of that idea permanently."

Its gonna be hard but I will try

any reason why, just curious, I really thought it would be ok at least just on the surface to remove stress on the cut
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sorry to hear that. i had to replace my toyo at2 tire too bcuz of the sidewall puncture. Although it lasted me 100+ miles on the trip home, the next day it couldn't hold air. got it replaced for 1/2 the price. they didn't even need any sort of information from me. I just called toyo customer service, told them what happened and they gave me an authorization number when they talked to my toyo dealer. You could probably do the same/better if your very influential. Hope that helps u out.
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Old 07-18-2013, 12:35 PM   #6
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I have similar cut on a goodyear silent armor, I understood there are multiple layers and one of them is some sort of special material that is there to prevent major damage and this cut is just surface cut and it cant be very deep .. Anyway I am driving like before and not that concerned but I am subscribed to see what others will say..
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If you see any metal at all on the sidewall I wouldn't trust the tire at all. Like stated check with your vendor and see if anything can be done, if not I would bite the bullet and get another tire. I worked at a shop that sold tires in high school and it was drilled into our minds that sidewall damage was not to be messed with. Now that said it might be ok for another 4 years but I personally wouldn't take the chance.
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Old 07-18-2013, 12:39 PM   #8
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I just got a set of Duratracs too. The sidewall doesn't feel super robust, but I guess that is part of what makes them lighter than most tires of a similar size. Since that isn't cut all the way through, you can probably have a shop hot patch that on the inside. It means a dismount, but will reinforce that area.

The only concern is that some shops may be funny about making repairs in a sidewall area.
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^yes even my wheeling buddy who works at a tire shop didn't wanna patch mine up. i went to 4 shops in one day... 2 shops in which i have strong rapport with refused. oh well.
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Interesting, this happened with a load range E tire. Goodyear supposedly enhanced the sidewall on the duratrac this past year because of it shredding or getting damaged easily. They may need to step up the sidewall protection still however a duratrac isn't a rock climbers tire of choice.

It's a hard call because if you wheel with duratracs and just catch a rock or two on the trail, it may tear even though rocks aren't your thing.
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"crabbing" on rocks is a big no no. i learned that first hand. at least i know what my tires (toyo at2) are capable of.
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Old 07-18-2013, 02:41 PM   #12
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I wouldn't trust the extent of the damage and would replace the tire. I don't know of any professional tire shop that will repair a side wall. I just wouldn't trust a side wall repair in general. Maybe you can be given some type of pro rated price. I guess it will depend on the shop and Goodyear.
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Hi I just bought some duratrac tire 33" rated E load and after one rock trail I found that on one tire. there are 2 place that are cut. The tire are brand new is it dangerous. If it blow will it really BLOW or just leak.

I'm planning to use it on the back as my spare but I don't have the spare now (on order) can I still do trail with that ( I have one this weekend)


This one on the stud if I force it open really hard I can see one metal wire tip that I think is like the last layer of the tire band.











This one is 2.5 mm deep but I don't see any metal





I was wondering if it was gonna continue to open more with time and if I melt the tire at the cut if it would melt it back together to stop the crack from getting bigger, I was thinking of a soldering iron maybe.


Thank you
Making it a spare is a good idea, the fact that you can see a band is not good. If there is no bulge or bubble it is still structurally sound. Keep your eye on it and if it stays the same it will probably be ok. First sign of deformity and I would ditch it. Just replaced a brand new 20 inch tire on my wifes enclave "Pirellis" had only 250 miles on it and she curbed it hard at the rim protector the heavy piece of tire by the rim. Took a 1 inch by 3/4 inch 1/8 deep chunk out of it. Tire guy said it was ok , but I bought another tire immediately. For a couple hundred I'm not risking my family. She effed up a $500 rim that I just sanded out a bit and also the front hub needed replacing because she tweaked the bearing. Things happen, I need peace of mind good luck.
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Old 07-18-2013, 04:06 PM   #14
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It is toast. If you are going to be around sharp rocks, the MTR Kevlar's 3-ply sidewall and the kevlar will give you a bit more protection. Well, usually a lot more protection. I would not be driving around on that tire, nor using it as a spare.
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So basically the answer to your question is...nobody really knows. I would do what you are comfortable with.
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Old 07-18-2013, 04:53 PM   #17
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Not sure where you bought them from but that is why I use Discount Tire. A lot of times I buy road hazard. When you pay $1000 for tires what's a little more. That way, when this kind of stuff pops up they take care of it.

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Every single one of my duratracs has 20+ cuts that look like that. They are fine, just surface cuts. Have a tire place patch,vulcanize if it's really bad. If your cut looks like this you need a new one:

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I had a set of duratracs and had to have them replaced in 1 year. They were "certed" out by Americas Tire. They were chunking out, cracking, and wearing really bad.

I told them the word "Dura" (as in Durable) should not be on a tire that literally falls apart after 2 wheeling trips and highway miles.

Maybe Goodyear should just call these "Tracs."

PS. The second set is holding up ALOT better that my first.
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Old 07-18-2013, 08:53 PM   #20
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Thanks for all the reply, I think I will keep it as the spare and see if the cut open more.

No more rock crawling I guess.

It was my first trail and it was an hardcore one (we didnt knew the trail) so it was probably realy hard on the tire.


I bought them with discount tire , the road hazard whould have cover that? I thought they would say it was abuse or something like that and not cover it.
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As far as melting a tire goes, try it on a tire that is being disposed of anyway. It wont work. It'll burn, not melt.

I dont see why discount tire's road hazard wouldnt cover that. running over nails is abuse too but they cover that. Just dont tell em what you did. It was a pothole!

dont know what the hell you guys are doing to your tires. Ive never had any problem with my duratracs.
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Discount's road hazard would have defiantly covered that. I know from experience. Love Discount Tire.
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A buddy I wheel with took his tire to DT even though he didn't buy it there. They sold him the warranty on all 5 tires and replaced the cut one!

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