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Old 03-04-2014, 12:52 PM   #1
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Duratrac or Toyo?

I decided to go with the AEV 2" spacer lift and 1.5 spidertrax spacers on my 14 JKURX, but now I'm split on whether to go with the 285/70r17 DT or step up to the 285/75 Toyo AT2. The Toyo is a bit cheaper and not as aggressive looking, but I've been reading that it is a really great all around tire for Colorado weather and rocky terrain with its tough sidewalls.
I think my biggest issues at this point are rubbing of the Toyos due to their extra height, fitment of the Toyos on stock tire carrier, and the extra weight. Lastly, are the Toyo AT2s good enough that I should abandon the DT idea and go with he AT2 in 285/70?

I know I'll probably be happy with either tire but wanted to see what you all think.

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You should be fine height wise. I'd go with the Toyo's in your situation. I have DT's 315, and they are a great tire. But if the choice is between DT 285 and the Toyo AT2's at 285, I'd do the Toyo's.

I have a 35" on my stock spare, lots of people do. Although I'm looking into tire carriers this summer.

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Old 03-04-2014, 12:59 PM   #3
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Is mud an issue? If so, Duratrac. If not, Toyo.
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Old 03-04-2014, 01:02 PM   #4
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Is mud an issue? If so, Duratrac. If not, Toyo.
I've heard that the DT are not so good in mud, are you saying Toyos are worse?
Mud isn't a huge concern, although springtime here in CO we end up having to do some snow busting to get to the lakes so a little mud clearing can't hurt.
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Not a spacer fan but people run them. I have a 2.5 AEV lift with the the Toyo's. They are quite on the street and preform great off road. Been on several trail runs with them and I can say I barely have spun a wheel. 35Lbs and they ride like concrete. 26 to 28 and they smooth out nicely. Only have aired them down to 15lbs so far but they preformed better than expected in sand and rock. Float well in the sand. Had some rain last weekend and played a bit in the mud. They seem to pack up and like to carry lots of mud with them. I bit slow to clean out but in AZ it is not a problem. Have not had them in snow yet. I like the tire. I am also a fan of BFG AT and having them siped. Need new 35's for my Dodge truck and I will shop them both.
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Why not a 315/70/17 duratrac.
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Old 03-04-2014, 01:06 PM   #7
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Why not a 315/70/17 duratrac.
I'm actually a fan of pizza cutters but can't find a good AT tire in the 255/80r17 size, only KM2s. 315 is honestly too wide for my mainly highway, overland style uses of Jeeping.
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I like the BFG AT for snow. When siped they are unstopable in the snow. The truck only tows the sled trailer in snow country or the boat to the ramp.
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Not a spacer fan but people run them. I have a 2.5 AEV lift with the the Toyo's. They are quite on the street and preform great off road. Been on several trail runs with them and I can say I barely have spun a wheel. 35Lbs and they ride like concrete. 26 to 28 and they smooth out nicely. Only have aired them down to 15lbs so far but they preformed better than expected in sand and rock. Float well in the sand. Had some rain last weekend and played a bit in the mud. They seem to pack up and like to carry lots of mud with them. I bit slow to clean out but in AZ it is not a problem. Have not had them in snow yet. I like the tire. I am also a fan of BFG AT and having them siped. Need new 35's for my Dodge truck and I will shop them both.
I'd rather go with the 2.5 AEV lift but the cost is a bit prohibitive at the moment after dropping $40k on the Jeep. If you're referring to the wheel spacers I actually love the black wheels that come stock on the Rubi X that's why I'm not going to a different wheel.
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I have a 2014 jkur with AEV 2" spidertrax 1.5" and you guessed it Toyo OC at2 285/75-17 and just got back last night from Moab. Anything I had the balls to do they did without a hiccup. aired down 17psi for running trails and 35psi for the trip down and back. smooth as silk. It rained a bit so I had them in every condition possible, sand, mud, rocks, snow/ice (Im in Montana) never missed a beat. I posted several photos on a thread titled We rocked moab 2014 in the general JK section. here we took a wrong turn trying to take a short cut from Top of the World to Rose Garden Hill.


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I've heard that the DT are not so good in mud, are you saying Toyos are worse?
Mud isn't a huge concern, although springtime here in CO we end up having to do some snow busting to get to the lakes so a little mud clearing can't hurt.
The ability to clear mud is, more than anything, a function of the void size. The Duratracs have larger voids and, while they are not true mud tires, are going to be better than just about any all-terrain in serious mud.

I would venture to say most of us on here have had our all-terrains slick up in mud at some point, no? I don't know how much better the Duratrac would be, I just strongly suspect it would be noticeably better.

Of course, a KM or STT would walk all over a Duratrac in the mud, but might get you killed on the ice
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Old 03-04-2014, 01:26 PM   #12
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I have 28570R17 Toyo OC AT 2's and they are great in mud and snow...It's a no brainer for me..I think Duratracs are over rated. Toyo's are lighter and less expensive. Just my 2 cents.lol
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The ability to clear mud is, more than anything, a function of the void size. The Duratracs have larger voids and, while they are not true mud tires, are going to be better than just about any all-terrain in serious mud. I would venture to say most of us on here have had our all-terrains slick up in mud at some point, no? I don't know how much better the Duratrac would be, I just strongly suspect it would be noticeably better. Of course, a KM or STT would walk all over a Duratrac in the mud, but might get you killed on the ice
Yeah I've had BFG ATs I'm the past and was unimpressed in any particular scenario but they did a decent job in everything but mud. My favorite tire I've personally ran was the GY MTs, but now that I have a baby and a wife that will occasionally drive the Jeep (when I feel like having some beers) an AT seems like a better option.
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Yeah I've had BFG ATs I'm the past and was unimpressed in any particular scenario but they did a decent job in everything but mud. My favorite tire I've personally ran was the GY MTs, but now that I have a baby and a wife that will occasionally drive the Jeep (when I feel like having some beers) an AT seems like a better option.
I hear ya. I run AT's on my Jeep in the winter and the KM's in the summer. If I had it to do over again I'd probably just get Blizzak's for the winter. Got a 3 month old and priorities sure change fast when that baby shows up, don't they?

FWIW, by all accounts either tire is a solid daily driver choice so I don't think you are compromising safety in the same way you would if you chose to run an unsiped KM.
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I have 28570R17 Toyo OC AT 2's and they are great in mud and snow...It's a no brainer for me..I think Duratracs are over rated. Toyo's are lighter and less expensive. Just my 2 cents.lol
I'm starting to get the sense that AT2s can pretty much do anything the DTs can, with the possible exception of ice. I'm leaning more in that direction at the moment, but the aggressive look of the DTs still has me wavering. Yes I'm vain...
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The only advantage the AT2s would have over a DT is in the rocks. Everywhere else the DT are better period.....
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The only advantage the AT2s would have over a DT is in the rocks. Everywhere else the DT are better period.....
pretty bold claim. I would think the AT2's would wear better and be better on the highway, equal in sand when properly aired down and I know for a fact that they do excellent on snow and ice. I live in the snow/ice belt. I would give the edge to the DT in mud tho . Funny how different tires are popular in different regions. I just got back from Moab and saw every kind of condition and did not have any issues.
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Ive owned both and will stand by my opinion.The DT are a superior tire for all conditions except they tend to have softer sidewall which is not good in rocks.If I wanted a tire that would be strictly on road the AT2 would make a good one. But for a all around Jeep tire you cant beat the DT with a stick.
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but the aggressive look of the DTs still has me wavering. Yes I'm vain...
The Duratracs do look aggressive for an AT tire
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pretty bold claim. I would think the AT2's would wear better and be better on the highway, equal in sand when properly aired down and I know for a fact that they do excellent on snow and ice. I live in the snow/ice belt. I would give the edge to the DT in mud tho . Funny how different tires are popular in different regions. I just got back from Moab and saw every kind of condition and did not have any issues.
Agreed. The AT2's will definitely last longer as it has a harder compound than the DT.
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Toyo AT II look pretty aggressive to me. Sure a big mud tire looks even more so but how often are you axle deep in mud? Toyo looks very similar tread design to what you see the desert racers running. All depends where you live and what terrain you are running.
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What about ProComp Extreme AT?
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What about ProComp Extreme AT?
My dad has those on his f150 and they have already started to cup with about 7000 miles on them and they've been rotated every 2500.
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What about ProComp Extreme AT?
my good buddy has a set in 35's and he just mentioned to me that he did not like them. He is connected in the industry and got them free he can run pretty much what he wants and he wanted to try them as he thought they looked like they might work but for some reason he said he does not like them.
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I had my heart set on the duratracs but I went with the toyo's b/c they were so much cheaper at the time plus I kept reading the dt's aren't very true to size. The at2's have been a great tire both on the highway and offroad (including mud)
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Ive owned both and will stand by my opinion.The DT are a superior tire for all conditions except they tend to have softer sidewall which is not good in rocks.If I wanted a tire that would be strictly on road the AT2 would make a good one. But for a all around Jeep tire you cant beat the DT with a stick.
you owned the Toyo AT2 extremes? or the at2's or the at's they are all different.
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Have AT2s on sons TJ. For what he does (all highway)they are great. The DT are the best tires I have ever ran in the snow or rain and are dam fine in the mud as well as very smooth on the highway.I also ran a set of Nitto Terras on my Cummins and when new they were great tires but wore quick and lost most of their grip in the rain and snow. If I lived in the rock country I would probably pick something else as well.
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Have AT2s on sons TJ. For what he does (all highway)they are great. The DT are the best tires I have ever ran in the snow or rain and are dam fine in the mud as well as very smooth on the highway.I also ran a set of Nitto Terras on my Cummins and when new they were great tires but wore quick and lost most of their grip in the rain and snow.
OP was asking about the 285/75-17 Toyo which is an Extreme tread which is more aggressive then the regular AT2. I have had 2 sets of the AT2's and 1 set of the At2 extremes. I drive in the rain, snow and for 4 months a year and I will put them up against any non studded tire in snow and ice. Not saying I drive in those conditions more then you but my life in the winter is pretty much snow shoeing and back country skiing. I am surrounded on all sides by mountain passes. Heck just the other day there was an avalanche right in town that swept away a couple of houses and killed a person. (was actually neighbors of one of the buddies I just went to Moab with his sister who lives next door was evacuated)
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AT2 extremes in 35x12.5 and I am extremely happy with them, quieter then the KM2's I had stock on my 10A, better in wet weather, and although I never had the KM2's in snow the AT2's were perfect. They are plenty aggressive for my DD Jeep that will see limited off road use. Anything worth going off road for is a day trip at best from me so realistically I had no need for MT's.
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