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Old 09-26-2012, 09:39 AM   #1
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Duratrac vs Trail Grappler?

I know for some of you that may seem like an odd comparison, but here's my thoughts...

My Jeep is my DD, and my off-road is probably less than 5%. I do drive alot, but I hate my current tires and am ready to take the plunge. I'm looking to get a 2.5" lift, new wheels, and new tires. I know that MT's probably aren't the best for someone who's on the road alot, but I love the look, and it's MY Jeep! Up until now, I've been hooked on the Nitto Trail Grapplers.

I've seen alot on the forum about the Duratracs, pictures, etc. And to be honest, I actually thought they were MT's as well. Excuse my ignorance...

So, now I'm taking a hard look at a set of 295/65/18 Duratracs instead of the Trail Grapplers.

I've got 3.73's (FYI).....still like the Trail Grapplers a lot, but the Duratracs are gaining on me. In my situation, in which I drive 80+ miles a day in my commute, would I be crazy to NOT get Duratracs over the Trail Grapplers?

How would the two compare with tread life? How many miles should I get on each? Would my MPG be that different between the two? I know the Duratracs are lighter.

Looking at several vendors, they seem to be "comparable" in price......just wondering how much cheaper the Duratracs might be "down the road"....

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I have the Trail Grapplers on my 2012 JK. For only driving off-road 5% of the time - you should stay away from these.

Sure, the "look" is tough - and performance off-road is phenomenal - but - it comes at a cost. These tires are HEAVY. Balancing them is a royal PITA too. I have 16" steel wheels - and have attempted several balances at different shops, and, tried using Dyna Beads (which worked great in my motorcycle wheels over the years) - but the only thing that works "well enough" (far from perfect still) is to put wheel weights on both the inside & outside of the wheels.

The biggest item that has decreased the "power" of my vehicle is these tires - hands down.

Like I said - they are great off-road - but for mostly pavement driving - stick with the Duratracs which look darn near as aggressive, are MUCH lighter, have pretty good off-road performance & exceptional pavement performance (especialy in rain & snow), and, are less expensive.

My brother, who is a GM at a custom car/truck shop here in northease Ohio, talked me out of getting Duratracs because of how much he & his employees love the Nitto tires on their full size trucks - but I should've stuck with my gut.

As soon as these tires wear out - which I guess will be summer time next year (I have about 12k miles on the vehicle now & have to drive through a winter/spring soon) - I'll be getting a set of Duratracs (which also happens to be what almost everyone has on the trails over here).

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Old 09-26-2012, 10:06 AM   #3
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DD go with the Duratracs. I am not an expert by any means and sure others with more knowledge chime in. I have a 2012 with 3:21's with. 2.5 AEV. The Nittos are very heavy compared with the Duratracs and the GY look aggressive too! Mine is a DD too.
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Duratracs I can speak for trail grapplers were only a short run and sold.
The duratracs is a nice in between a/t and mud tire its more durable than people think, amazing wet control and snow ice....wears well good and even.
I bought mine and go back and forth between San Diego and Idaho northern so I needed a tire that was up to the task.

The only downside and its not bad is if you live where its hot they wear a smidge faster as they are a bit softer compound but tires wear amazing on jeeps so its not really an issue.

Can't recommend them enough, love that tire. I don't go back and forth anymore really so I'm on 37 km2s now and see mainly LOTS of rocks and crawling of I wasn't primarily here or wasn't on the rocks every 2-3 weeks I'd be on duratracs...great tire...
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The ONLY problem I have with the Duratracs is that they don't come anywhere near their rated size once they're mounted at 32 or 33 psi. I just wish they had a 325 or 37" version so that they'd at least be 35" once mounted.

That said, I still plan to use their 315 size once my '13 JKUR arrives...
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For 80+ miles a day of commuting, I would not recommend any MT tire.

You can do it of course, but your mpgs are going to take an unnecessary hit, your ride will be take an unnecessary hit, and the MTs will likely wear quickly and need to be replaced soon. So you can plan on expensive and uncomfortable.

That may not matter to you. There are guys who do it.

But for me, there's no way. I'd go with an AT, and the DuraTracs are a good choice for that. There are others too.
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The ONLY problem I have with the Duratracs is that they don't come anywhere near their rated size once they're mounted at 32 or 33 psi. I just wish they had a 325 or 37" version so that they'd at least be 35" once mounted.

That said, I still plan to use their 315 size once my '13 JKUR arrives...
So, what would the 295/65/18's measure out to? That's the size I'm looking at. I was thinking it'd wind up around 34"??

Also, any idea what MPG would be for that size tire in a Duratrac?
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For 80+ miles a day of commuting, I would not recommend any MT tire.

You can do it of course, but your mpgs are going to take an unnecessary hit, your ride will be take an unnecessary hit, and the MTs will likely wear quickly and need to be replaced soon. So you can plan on expensive and uncomfortable.

That may not matter to you. There are guys who do it.

But for me, there's no way. I'd go with an AT, and the DuraTracs are a good choice for that. There are others too.

Sounds like the Duratracs are a good choice for those who want the look of an aggressive MT, but need the on-road performance of an AT?
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Yep... MT's suck for DD but will have it no other way
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Sounds like the Duratracs are a good choice for those who want the look of an aggressive MT, but need the on-road performance of an AT?
It's a great "compromise" tire. Decent off road for an "AT", decent on road, wear like iron, and decent in the snow. Load rating is a little high in the 285/70-17 for a wrangler so the ride is a little stiffer but running them @ 28-30 PSI helps in this regard.
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Sounds like the Duratracs are a good choice for those who want the look of an aggressive MT, but need the on-road performance of an AT?
Right. They're a good compromise, so they're very popular. The principal caveat I've heard is that their sidewalls aren't particularly sturdy when compared against heavier duty MTs, so if you wheel a lot around sharp rocks or tree roots, take extra care.
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So, what would the 295/65/18's measure out to? That's the size I'm looking at. I was thinking it'd wind up around 34"??

Also, any idea what MPG would be for that size tire in a Duratrac?
Even the 315's have been known to be less than 34", so you'll be lucky to get 33" with the 295's when they're aired properly.
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I was debating this same thing for awhile and have decided on the Duratracs. In all honesty my Jeep is on the road more then off so it just makes sense.
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Even the 315's have been known to be less than 34", so you'll be lucky to get 33" with the 295's when they're aired properly.
I was just looking at that. When comparing the sizes of the Duratrac and Nitto in the 295, the Dura shows 33.1" and the Nitto shows 34.57".

Do most people with 33" Duratracs go with the 295's or the 315's?

Well, actually for 18" wheels, it looks like the next size up in the Dura's are 325's, which are listed at 34.6".

Hmmm.....wanted a tad bigger than 33", but the 34.6" may be too close to 35" for me and my 3.73 gears.
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33's look fine to me
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I keep coming back to DuraTracs myself, as I also want something bigger than 33" but smaller than 35"; doesn't seem like there are better choices out there for a daily driver. In the 16" sizes, the 305/70R16 is "only" 33.1, while the 315/75R16 is 34.6"; I'm also concerned that the latter size will eventually mess up my front axle, not to mention fuel economy. There's also a 315/70R17 DuraTrac that comes in at 34.4", but 17"s get a bit more expensive in both tires and wheels. I'm sure 18"s are even worse.

Anyway, I'll keep following these threads until I finally make up my mind...

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I was just looking at that. When comparing the sizes of the Duratrac and Nitto in the 295, the Dura shows 33.1" and the Nitto shows 34.57".

Do most people with 33" Duratracs go with the 295's or the 315's?

Well, actually for 18" wheels, it looks like the next size up in the Dura's are 325's, which are listed at 34.6".

Hmmm.....wanted a tad bigger than 33", but the 34.6" may be too close to 35" for me and my 3.73 gears.
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mine is a DD with about 10-15% on the trails, in the mud or in snow here in Michigan. I must say, after two years with the duratracs that this statement "amazing wet control and snow ice...." is very, very true.

I knew coming up on hills on my dirt rd. that something was wrong when cars were parked in the gully and no one could make it up the hill as it was a solid sheet of ice like a skating rink. I figured I'd give it a go, at about 3-5 mph in 2h I went right up with NO tire spin at all. I thought I'd at least spin my way up but nope. It was like I had ghecko feet lol.

I went with a 4" lift and 33x12.5x15 8" wide rims instead of 10" wide to get more sidewall flex on rocks without blowing beads.
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I keep coming back to DuraTracs myself, as I also want something bigger than 33" but smaller than 35"; doesn't seem like there are better choices out there for a daily driver. In the 16" sizes, the 305/70R16 is "only" 33.1, while the 315/75R16 is 34.6"; I'm also concerned that the latter size will eventually mess up my front axle, not to mention fuel economy. There's also a 315/70R17 DuraTrac that comes in at 34.4", but 17"s get a bit more expensive in both tires and wheels. I'm sure 18"s are even worse.

Anyway, I'll keep following these threads until I finally make up my mind...

I'm with you. Just when I think I've made a decision, my mind goes in a different direction. I've been focusing on the 18" wheels, and I'm worried that the 295's won't be big enough for my liking. There are just too many options and I'm way too indecisive.

I'd love to see a picture of 325/65/18's on a Jeep with a 2.5" lift.

Starting to wonder if I should bump down to 17" wheels...
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subscribed. I have 33's on a 3 1/2" lift and want to go with 35s next. I've had my mind set on Nitto TGs but everyone seems to run the duratracs.
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So, what would the 295/65/18's measure out to? That's the size I'm looking at. I was thinking it'd wind up around 34"??

Also, any idea what MPG would be for that size tire in a Duratrac?
Below is the specifications chart for the Duratracs:

Goodyear Wrangler DuraTrac.pdf
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Duratracs are the swiss army knife of tires. For an AT tire they are exceptional in the snow and rain and very good in mud.You wont find a better all around tire for a DD .
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Durateacs all the way!!!
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Can't wait to get mine. Tire shop called to say my 5 GY DT tires are in (285/75R16). Custom shop said rims will be in tomorrow (Procomp 7069 16X8 with 4" BS). I have to pick up the rims and bring them to Tire shop.

I'm having the Duratracs studded for winter use. I know they will be noisier but I got the "Premium" sound system in my jeep to compensate.

Probably won't actually put them on the jeep till late November or early December... If I can wait that long.

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Duratracs are the swiss army knife of tires. For an AT tire they are exceptional in the snow and rain and very good in mud.You wont find a better all around tire for a DD .
Boom. Great way to put it. They are great in ALL categories, the best in none. THe Nittos are the best offroad, but they are terrible on the road, in the snow, ice, and heavy rain. They are also made of weapons grade lead, so they are heavy. For the 5% of offroading you do, you will be very happy with the duratracs. I have yet to be let down by them, and I have wheeled in every possible scenario (rock, snow, ice, dirt, sand, mud, tarmac, gravel, rain.)
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I have 33/12.5/15 Duratracs on my DD. These tires are light years better than some others I've tried. They may not be the best off road, but most of the time I'm headed to work, not a trail.
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I just wish they made a true 37" version of the Duratracs...
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I just wish they made a true 37" version of the Duratracs...
From a marketing perspective, it doesn't make sense. They believe that guys that run 37" tires are in the "hardcore" crowd, and hardcore guys use MTs, which is why they have the 37" MTRs.
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I just wish they made a true 37" version of the Duratracs...
me to although my 37 mtrs have been great so far
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I too was in the exact same quandry. I love the look of the Nitto's but wanted the versatility of the Duratrac. I ended up purchasing the 315/75R16 Duratracs. The tires look great. They are lighter than most tires. With MG TKO's, weights, and TPMS they weigh 91lbs a piece. The road noise is very acceptable. They handle and track great. I just took mine up into the mountains, and played in the mud, snow and some rocks, and they performed flawlessly. Mine measure out to about 34.5".

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I was just looking at that. When comparing the sizes of the Duratrac and Nitto in the 295, the Dura shows 33.1" and the Nitto shows 34.57".

Do most people with 33" Duratracs go with the 295's or the 315's?

Well, actually for 18" wheels, it looks like the next size up in the Dura's are 325's, which are listed at 34.6".

Hmmm.....wanted a tad bigger than 33", but the 34.6" may be too close to 35" for me and my 3.73 gears.
The 325's work fine with 3:73 gears, 3.6 liter.

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