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Old 06-11-2012, 10:02 PM   #31
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Not knocking Dyna-Beads, but have heard they don't get along well with TPMS sensors.

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Another vid on how they work for those following the thread.


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There are alternatives like Balancemasters and Centramatics. Pretty common on larger commercial tires. They look like a Frisbee with the rim filled with an oily fluid or steel shot. Dynamically balancers, work well.
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How easy is it to remove the stick on flat weights that tire shops use in static balancing? Can you just peel them off with something?
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How easy is it to remove the stick on flat weights that tire shops use in static balancing? Can you just peel them off with something?
Just scrap them off with a flat head screw driver. They come right off.
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Ok ^

How much noise are we talking about here when coming to a stop or starting up? Also the info on their site says the beads begin to work at 25-35 mph. What if a vibration is present prior to these speeds? All of the vibes I've had happen around 45-55 but I'm curious about this.
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Ok ^

How much noise are we talking about here when coming to a stop or starting up? Also the info on their site says the beads begin to work at 25-35 mph. What if a vibration is present prior to these speeds? All of the vibes I've had happen around 45-55 but I'm curious about this.
Nothing I notice. Mud tires rumble a bit at slow speeds anyways.
The only time I heard the beads is when I rolled the tire to the jeep, engine off.
Now... If you choose the bigger "off road" beads or another brand it may be different.
I can't hear them with the jeep running.

And yes they only work as you gain speed.but your not going to feel a imbalance at low speeds anyways.
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How did you install yours? Did you take each tire off the jeep, deflate, install beads, then inflate and re mount or did you do it some other way. It seems that you can install these while the tires are still on the jeep. Is this true?
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How did you install yours? Did you take each tire off the jeep, deflate, install beads, then inflate and re mount or did you do it some other way. It seems that you can install these while the tires are still on the jeep. Is this true?
(stretch) ahhh

Um.... Yes I dismounted the tire, leaned it an a angle so the valve was straight up.
Let me see what the instructions say.
You might be able to install the beads with the tire still on.... Dunn :confused
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So what happens if and when you take the tire off the wheel kjeeper? Do the beads run out all over the ground? Could they be re-used again if so? I'm thinking of doing this.

Could you give me a link to where and what I would need to buy to do this on my 33x12.5R15s?
the beads go all over the place, you best tell the tire shop there in there, they dont want 10,000 beads all over the place ,, same with tire slim or fix a flat,,, that crap makes a mess.
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They are tiny. I dumped 1/4 of my last bag al over the place good thing I bought 1 extra.

I just blew them outside of the garage. They disappeared
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When you deflate the tire by removing the valve stem piece that lets all the air out quickly, does the tire come apart from the wheel? Any worry about that happening? It all sounds easy enough though to install. I think I'm gonna order some. I know you did all five tires but do some people just run them in troubled ones and not all of them? I guess I could order a few and try them in the front two tires and see if they make a difference for me.
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When you deflate the tire by removing the valve stem piece that lets all the air out quickly, does the tire come apart from the wheel? Any worry about that happening? It all sounds easy enough though to install. I think I'm gonna order some. I know you did all five tires but do some people just run them in troubled ones and not all of them? I guess I could order a few and try them in the front two tires and see if they make a difference for me.
Nope the tire bead stays put.

One of the main reasons is to not have to balance. I would do all of them and be done.
Mark the locations where the weights stuck in case you need to put back.
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Does this look like everything I would need?

5x Dynabead 8 oz standard bags
5x Filter valve core
1x Applicator w/spout
1x Valve core removal tool
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Does this look like everything I would need?

5x Dynabead 8 oz standard bags
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Yep. You have the sticky weights so don't need the remover tool thingy.

Pick up a cheap engraver or vibro peen to help with installing them.
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Pick up a cheap engraver or vibro peen to help with installing them.
cant we just borrow the wifes\GF..... oh crap PG-13 forum.
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cant we just borrow the wifes\GF..... oh crap PG-13 forum.
Or that will work
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Ordered a set of em looking forward to installing. I don't really trust the stock scissor jack I have with my lift anymore. I wonder if anyone near by has a floor jack and jack stand I could use this weekend.
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I agree with your comments to my post ESP - just iterating what I was told & went through. At this stage of the game, I'm wearing these tires down pretty quickly anyway - so I'm just going to live with them as they are & move to the DuraTrecs next time around.

IRT to the DynaBeads & TPMS sensors, they're not "supposed" to cause any problems - BUT, I will tell you that at one point, when I went to take some air out of my tires - my TPMS sensor got stuck ON. I'm pretty sure some beads got sucked into the TPMS gizmo and stuck. I verified my tire pressure in all tires - so it was definitely a false positive. Only when I had the beads removed and cleaned out did the TPMS indicator cleared. Granted, I let a good 15psi out of each tire when this happened - but it's not "supposed" to happen, according to the DB folks.

Also - yes, those beads can go all over the floor when pulling a tire with them installed. A good tire guy will have his vacuum hose handy & carefully break the bead in order to suck up the beads if he knows they're in the tires.

I can tell you I never heard my beads while driving - even going slow with doors off and trying to listen for them. The only time I heard them was when I pulled a tire and spun it (ie, on a balancing machine).
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Ordered a set of em looking forward to installing. I don't really trust the stock scissor jack I have with my lift anymore. I wonder if anyone near by has a floor jack and jack stand I could use this weekend.
Gotta Harbor Freight near you?
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I agree with your comments to my post ESP - just iterating what I was told & went through. At this stage of the game, I'm wearing these tires down pretty quickly anyway - so I'm just going to live with them as they are & move to the DuraTrecs next time around.

IRT to the DynaBeads & TPMS sensors, they're not "supposed" to cause any problems - BUT, I will tell you that at one point, when I went to take some air out of my tires - my TPMS sensor got stuck ON. I'm pretty sure some beads got sucked into the TPMS gizmo and stuck. I verified my tire pressure in all tires - so it was definitely a false positive. Only when I had the beads removed and cleaned out did the TPMS indicator cleared. Granted, I let a good 15psi out of each tire when this happened - but it's not "supposed" to happen, according to the DB folks.

Also - yes, those beads can go all over the floor when pulling a tire with them installed. A good tire guy will have his vacuum hose handy & carefully break the bead in order to suck up the beads if he knows they're in the tires.

I can tell you I never heard my beads while driving - even going slow with doors off and trying to listen for them. The only time I heard them was when I pulled a tire and spun it (ie, on a balancing machine).
Just disable TPMS using a Procal?
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Yep. You have the sticky weights so don't need the remover tool thingy.

Pick up a cheap engraver or vibro peen to help with installing them.
The removal tool is for the air valve not to pry the weights off. I'll just use my smallest pry bar for that. I'm gonna see if I can get my hands on a good floor jack and jack stand and do the install this weekend if they come before Friday. I've got a place too to do it right in front of a tire air system in the neighboring apartment complex. Think I'll do just the front right first if in any case I mess up the valve or anything happens once all the air is out, I can just throw on the spare and and drive to get another valve etc. Wish me luck -
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The removal tool is for the air valve not to pry the weights off. I'll just use my smallest pry bar for that. I'm gonna see if I can get my hands on a good floor jack and jack stand and do the install this weekend if they come before Friday. I've got a place too to do it right in front of a tire air system in the neighboring apartment complex. Think I'll do just the front right first if in any case I mess up the valve or anything happens once all the air is out, I can just throw on the spare and and drive to get another valve etc. Wish me luck -
I was referring to the tool to remove the non sticky weights.

You have 5 in case one is messed up. Obviously do the spare last.

I saw this thing at Tractor supply. It's a jackstand with a built in jack.

Tell me that's not cool as fudge.

Would be perfect for changing 1 tire at a time. I might buy it
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Installed these today. 8 oz bag worth of beads in each 33x12.5R15 MTZ tires. Works like advertised so far and all is well. No noise at all while driving or slowing. Very comfortable and 99% of highway vibes or tire balancing steering wheel shimmy has disappeared.
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Installed these today. 8 oz bag worth of beads in each 33x12.5R15 MTZ tires. Works like advertised so far and all is well. No noise at all while driving or slowing. Very comfortable and 99% of highway vibes or tire balancing steering wheel shimmy has disappeared.
Glad they are working for ya. Mia yesterday, figured you either said "F these beads and Kjeep" or loving life, cruising the malls enjoying the sun
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It's good and they work well. I think that sometimes there is a little vibe but it goes away pretty quick because the beads are getting to where they need to be once moving. You have this experience too? Not sure how much driving around your doing right now because of your shaft.
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It's good and they work well. I think that sometimes there is a little vibe but it goes away pretty quick because the beads are getting to where they need to be once moving. You have this experience too? Not sure how much driving around your doing right now because of your shaft.
Well I always have a "wobbly" ride up to 40 because of the bad tires but the highway is working better than before .

One thing I just noticed the beads are getting stuck in the tire and not moving around freely.
I just put a jack under the jeep-lifted- and spun each tire. Until I pounded on each tire the beads fell free.
I don't know if they used that lube stuff and if it stays wet inside the tires.
Who knows, the beads might be stuck in the "right" place ?
I think the best bet for anybody wanting to do this is the big "off road" beads. Can't be good they are sticking.
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ESP, I know this thread is pretty old, but I have 33x12.5r15 DuraTracs on 15" MB72 wheels.

When I tried to get my tires balanced, the tire guy told me that they were unable to zero the tires, but were able to get them pretty close. This is due to only using stick weights on the inside, which he told me the MB72 wheels barely cleared the brake calipers, which interfered with the amount of stick weight needed.

Anyway, the tires have only a very slight shake starting at 65-70 MPH. I don't feel anything under normal driving conditions.

I just want to know, how have the Dynabeads worked out for you in the past few months?

Its either the beads or I ask to add weight on the outside.

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ESP, I know this thread is pretty old, but I have 33x12.5r15 DuraTracs on 15" MB72 wheels.

When I tried to get my tires balanced, the tire guy told me that they were unable to zero the tires, but were able to get them pretty close. This is due to only using stick weights on the inside, which he told me the MB72 wheels barely cleared the brake calipers, which interfered with the amount of stick weight needed.

Anyway, the tires have only a very slight shake starting at 65-70 MPH. I don't feel anything under normal driving conditions.

I just want to know, how have the Dynabeads worked out for you in the past few months?

Its either the beads or I ask to add weight on the outside.

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ESP and I both had our run with Dyna beads. We ran the smaller ones, and with me they clumped because of moisture in the tire. This made things worse.

You should try another tire shop. They shouldn't be putting weights down the middle.
clip on weights on the inside lip and sticky weights stuck outward of the caliper nearest to the front face.
If they still can't get to balance, the tire can be broken down on the wheel and spun 180*
A good road force balancing machine (and Tech) will be able to match the highs and lows to better balance the tire.
A road force machine will also determine if the tire and/or wheel is bad and has excessive runout. In this case it will need to be replaced.

If you are feeling it is the steering wheel, rotate that tire to the rear.

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