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Old 07-04-2010, 11:41 PM   #1
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Emergency brake

Strange question, but I need to ask.

How far do you have to pull up on your E-brake for it to work? We have a pretty steep driveway and I always use the E-brake, but I have to pull ALL the way up on it to the point where it will not go any farther at all and then it will hold. Also when I pull it up all the way I always hear popping sound, is that normal? Is there a way of adjusting these?

The guy at the stealership told me it was self adjusting and was in normal working order...

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Old 07-05-2010, 12:01 AM   #2
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I've had a lot of vehicles with this type of brake. Even on my Caravan that had the one on the side, I have always manhandled the brake. I just give it a good yank. If the jeep rolls at all I give it another tug until it ratchets another click or two. And I have noticed it pop every once in a while. While it is under warranty if something goes pop AND it will not hold any more on a hill, back to the dealer it goes. That way when it is out of warranty, I know that when I give it a good yank, it is time tested and will behave as it usually does. That is my yank theory and I'm sticking to it!

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i have an 04 wrangler and have the same problem with my e-brake. the dealer said it was fine, and no need to adjust it, but with a little effort, one can push the jeep with the brake on. once of these days i need to crawl under my jeep and see if there might be a way of adjusting it manually.
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im not so sure about jks but on my tj i had that same problem so i went under it and near the back axle i saw where the e-brake cables connect to the brakes and i tightened that till i got the right feel in the e-brake lever.
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The e-brake shouldn't really be used at any point unless its pushed all the way in (or as far as you're able to push it) unless you lose your regular brakes. When parking the brake should be pressed to the floor (or wherever JK e-brakes are ) A local mechanic should be able to properly adjust it for little or no charge
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Old 07-05-2010, 07:39 AM   #6
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It is easy to adjust yourself like mentioned above. Right now, the dealer does my service and that is one of the items they take care of without me asking. The only time I would bring it to the dealer is if it is at the end of its travel and won't hold the jeep on a hill.

@Vaultzz...the ebrake on the JK is in the middle pull up type.

BTW, this is one of the first vehicles that I have owned that has disk brakes on the rear. I find that with disk brakes, the ebrake seems to hold better than with drum brakes. But the JK does need a little umph to pull that lever up to the point that the jeep will hold a hill. It has since it was new.
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How can the cable be adjusted. Can somone give me some instruction on a starting point on how to do it?

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Old 07-05-2010, 12:07 PM   #8
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When I pulled up tight, I thought I was OK. Stepped out and my dang JK started to roll downhill. Jumped in and pulled it super tight, Jeep stilled free rolled. Mechanic told me the 'pop' sound is the self adjuster doing it's job. But, it's not any better. Basically the e-brake on my JK is a joke. It's a design issue and problem by mfr. Anybody know of a fix that actually gives you a 'brake' that will hold on a JK on a hill???
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Old 07-05-2010, 12:19 PM   #10
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Yep, good idea... I had to use them on my both my FJ40s.
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BTW, this is one of the first vehicles that I have owned that has disk brakes on the rear. I find that with disk brakes, the ebrake seems to hold better than with drum brakes. But the JK does need a little umph to pull that lever up to the point that the jeep will hold a hill. It has since it was new.
The JK does not use the disk for the ebrake. It uses a normal drum, which is why it still sucks. There is a big thread elsewhere. I just adjusted mine last week and got it to just 3 clicks for super tight.
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Mechanic told me the 'pop' sound is the self adjuster doing it's job.
Your mechanic doesnt have a clue. There is no self adjuster on the JK rear e brake. The pop and slipping is the cable runs wearing out. You can solve that by tightening it so it only goes up 3-4 clicks at most. It stopped my popping for now. I have a new lever assembly and cables on order, but i wont be needing to use them now. I'll save them for the future.
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The JK does not use the disk for the ebrake. It uses a normal drum, which is why it still sucks. There is a big thread elsewhere. I just adjusted mine last week and got it to just 3 clicks for super tight.
Do you happen to have a link to this thread by chance?

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I'm glad to see its not just me having this problem, and having the service tech try to blow smoke. Is it really that hard for these dealerships to be honest with people?? Why all the lying and misinformation? It really ticks me off.
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Thanks plac! X2

Those pictures were awesome.

On the picture where he shows the rear end of the rotor which has the adjusting mechanism, is that a rubber cover to the right of the yellow spring that is used to remove for adjusting without removing the drum? As I recall the brake tool has an adjuster on one of the handles that would fit through the hole to turn the star adjuster?
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Thanks plac! X2

Those pictures were awesome.

On the picture where he shows the rear end of the rotor which has the adjusting mechanism, is that a rubber cover to the right of the yellow spring that is used to remove for adjusting without removing the drum? As I recall the brake tool has an adjuster on one of the handles that would fit through the hole to turn the star adjuster?
yes you can remove that rubber plug in the back and do it that way if you dont want to take off your rotor.
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BTW, I was wondering how they did the parking brake thing. A picture is worth a thousand words. I'll have a new appreciation for what I am looking at now that I have seen the inside of it. Thanks again.

Eventually I'll be doing my own service on the jeep.
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Dont forget the mega-detailed thread also..

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Thanks Plac... I thought that 'pop' didn't sound right.
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Great info. Another question, what direction will I need to turn the star adjustors to tighten them? Is it your standard "righty tighty" adjustment?

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Wow Plac... those pics are very impressive thanks. I like the idea of using an old brake adjustment tool to move the star adjuster. I assume that clock-wise will tighten the pads (less clicks pulled on brake handle)...? Does that make sense???
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Based on the photo that shows the yellow spring up close and also shows the star adjuster you can see just a bit of thread above the star. Looks to me like you would want to move the star to the rear on the side where the adjusting hole is.
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Thanks JK'n... that's clockwise or righty tighty and makes sense. Drum shoes need to be moved closer to the drum and increasing that viewed thread length would do the job. Many thanks...
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Thanks guys, thats kinda what I was thinking too. I will see if I can monkey around with it once the wife gets home from work with the vehicle.
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i didnt make those super fancy pics. i just made the normal ones.
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Thanks JK'n... that's clockwise or righty tighty and makes sense. Drum shoes need to be moved closer to the drum and increasing that viewed thread length would do the job. Many thanks...
you just move it any direction and decide if its getting longer or shorter. i take my rotor off to do it. then i lengthen it until i can just barely get my rotor back on. thats my perfect adjustment.
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i didnt make those super fancy pics. i just made the normal ones.
Thanks for pointing those threads out. That was a great education for me. I used to maintain my own car in my teens and 20s. Back then I did everything. As my nest empties, I anticipate a lot more time in my hands. This is one area I plan on revisiting. I've changed a few mufflers and pipes on various cars that I've owned to save money now and then. I am looking forward to turning wrenches on the jeep. I was going to order the repair manual on DVD as a getting started point. Anyway, thanks for the help.
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I was going to order the repair manual on DVD as a getting started point.
Where might a guy find one of the DVD's you speak of??

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