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Old 08-27-2012, 10:35 PM   #1
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ESC or ESP? for Beach Driving

I've read several archival threads advising to turn off the ESP and go with 4H when driving on the Beach. Is ESP now known as ESC in the 2012 model? If so, where is the button located to turn it off on the 2012.

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Old 08-27-2012, 11:27 PM   #2
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It should be the button with the picture of a vehicle with squiggly lines under it, below you climate controls I think. Put it in 4H and hold that button for 5 seconds unitl you hear a eep and your display reads ESP off.

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Old 08-28-2012, 01:41 PM   #3
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I do not see anything in the 12 owners manual about holding the button for 5 seconds. I just push mine and it reads off on the dash.
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Old 08-28-2012, 02:12 PM   #4
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From Wrangler Owner Manual

The ESC system has three available operating modes in
4H range. The system has one operating mode in 4L
range. Two-wheel drive vehicles and four-wheel drive
vehicles in 2H range have two operating modes.
4H Range (4WD Models)
On
This is the normal operating mode for ESC in 4H range.
Partial Off
This mode is entered by momentarily pressing the ESC
OFF switch.
ESC Off
This mode is entered by pressing and holding momentarily
pressing the ESC OFF switch for 5 seconds.

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NOTE: To improve the vehicle’s traction when driving
with snow chains, or starting off in deep snow, sand, or
gravel, it may be desirable to switch to the “Partial Off”
mode by pressing the ESC OFF switch. Once the situation
requiring ESC to be switched to the “Partial Off” mode is
overcome, turn ESC back on by momentarily pressing the
ESC OFF switch. This may be done while the vehicle is in
motion.
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Old 08-28-2012, 02:43 PM   #5
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I will take your word for it and try it. But like i said the actual owners manual on my 2012 Rubi states everything that you did except it does not mention holding the button for 5 seconds for full off in 4 hi. The only mention of full off is in 4 low although it does say 4 hi has three operating modes but does not go into any explanation of full off in 4 hi. Thanks.
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The ESC system has three available operating modes in
4H range. The system has one operating mode in 4L
range. Two-wheel drive vehicles and four-wheel drive
vehicles in 2H range have two operating modes.
4H Range (4WD Models)
On
This is the normal operating mode for ESC in 4H range.
Partial Off
This mode is entered by momentarily pressing the ESC
OFF switch.
ESC Off
This mode is entered by pressing and holding momentarily
pressing the ESC OFF switch for 5 seconds.

.....................................

NOTE: To improve the vehicle’s traction when driving
with snow chains, or starting off in deep snow, sand, or
gravel, it may be desirable to switch to the “Partial Off”
mode by pressing the ESC OFF switch. Once the situation
requiring ESC to be switched to the “Partial Off” mode is
overcome, turn ESC back on by momentarily pressing the
ESC OFF switch. This may be done while the vehicle is in
motion.
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Old 08-28-2012, 02:52 PM   #6
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I will take your word for it and try it. But like i said the actual owners manual on my 2012 Rubi states everything that you did except it does not mention holding the button for 5 seconds for full off in 4 hi. The only mention of full off is in 4 low although it does say 4 hi has three operating modes but does not go into any explanation of full off in 4 hi. Thanks.
Tell you what, put it in 4h, hold the button for 5 seconds and report back to us. I'm thinking you will hear a beep and your display will read esp off. The 2012 om is on the DVD not the quick guide. The system has not changed for 2012.
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Old 08-28-2012, 02:57 PM   #7
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I go to the beach every weekend and never use 4wd at all, are you driving in deep sand?
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Ok here's your confirmation: (2012 JKUR 6sp manual)

2H: press the ESC button momentarily and ESC off will illuminate on the dash

4H: press the ESC button momentarily and ESC off will illuminate on the dash, Press and Hold the ESC button for approx 5 seconds and the ESC off will illuminate on the dash as well as a "chime" sound and ESC OFF will replate the odometer reading on your dash.
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I will take your word for it and try it. But like i said the actual owners manual on my 2012 Rubi states everything that you did except it does not mention holding the button for 5 seconds for full off in 4 hi. The only mention of full off is in 4 low although it does say 4 hi has three operating modes but does not go into any explanation of full off in 4 hi. Thanks.
I just checked and you are CORRECT, the 2012 manual omits the explanation of FULL OFF engagement in 4WHi. The 2013 clears this up and is what I posted. They goofed on the 2012.
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I go to the beach every weekend and never use 4wd at all, are you driving in deep sand?
Florida beaches don't count. Cars drive on the beach at Daytona.
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Yep, its works and thanks for the tip guys. So much for ordering the actual owners manual since it does not include all the info.
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Old 08-28-2012, 10:00 PM   #12
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Thank you gents. I plan to try it out this weekend at Assateague.
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Old 08-30-2012, 09:38 AM   #13
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I go to the beach every weekend and never use 4wd at all, are you driving in deep sand?
If you want to experience beach driving in Florida where you actually need 4x4, go to either the Crescent Beach area south of St. Augustine or Vilano Beach to the north. In fact, there are portions of the beach where only 4X4 vehicles are allowed. 4H and ESC Off recommended.
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One day you will learn that Daggo has memorized the owner's manual. He reads it like the Bible. Don't question him!
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If you want to experience beach driving in Florida where you actually need 4x4, go to either the Crescent Beach area south of St. Augustine or Vilano Beach to the north. In fact, there are portions of the beach where only 4X4 vehicles are allowed. 4H and ESC Off recommended.
Same for Peter's Point and American beach on Amelia Island. We go to PP regularly throughout the summer and 4WD is a must in all but the very beginning of the beach.
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Same for Peter's Point and American beach on Amelia Island. We go to PP regularly throughout the summer and 4WD is a must in all but the very beginning of the beach.
hmm...sounds like a road trip is in order. Are there restrictions outside the summer season (e.g. sea turtles)?
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hmm...sounds like a road trip is in order. Are there restrictions outside the summer season (e.g. sea turtles)?
No. Year-round access. We've been at least 14-15 times this year. Just a short 45 minute drive for us. My parents live up there and we take their '99 TJ. Soon we'll be taking our '13 JKUR to the beach.
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One day you will learn that Daggo has memorized the owner's manual. He reads it like the Bible. Don't question him!
True story. A pm to him is always quicker than trying to look up the info.
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True story. A pm to him is always quicker than trying to look up the info.

It's not memorized, but it is downloaded to my laptop. Clicking on a subject in the index brings it right up. It's way faster than flipping pages.
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If you want to experience beach driving in Florida where you actually need 4x4, go to either the Crescent Beach area south of St. Augustine or Vilano Beach to the north. In fact, there are portions of the beach where only 4X4 vehicles are allowed. 4H and ESC Off recommended.
I agree. Just above the high tide line south of Dondanville road (St. Augustine beach) the sand is loose and I have pulled my share of vehicles out. Moving back home next spring.
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Old 08-25-2013, 03:34 AM   #21
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Hey Guys,

Don't forget the most important thing to do while driving in sand. AIR DOWN!!!! We pulled a Rubicon out of the sand after he was buried up to his frame because he just knew he could go any where with it. Wrong!!!!!
You can probably get away without airing down in some places, but not here in Delaware.

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