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Old 08-29-2012, 12:14 AM   #61
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Promise......... If I win the lottery lol

But yes.... The RK coils are not 2/4 door specific.
I got almost 1.5" more height over the TF's.
The stock mod kit includes a front TB but 2 doors might need LCA's as well to keep caster in check.
Not true. I have the RK Stock Mod. Had an alighnment done at one month post install and everything was within specs, and damned near perfect at that.
First installed it was 3.5" front and 3" rear, has settled to 3" front and 2.5" rear after two months. I installed the Teraflex exhaust spacers, and then checked the droop of the front axle, and had no problems at all.
Paid $475 for the kit, and $285 for the Bilstein 5100s, for a total of $760. The only thing is the RK Stock Mod doesnt come with bump stops or extended brake lines....I run 33"s so the stops arent a big issue, and I just removed the brakeline bracket and zip tied the lines to the shock bodies.

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Lol. Ok guys. Not my rig, but I took the picture. Here is a 2.5" TF coil lift flexing out on a trail.

For the $$. Ain't nothing going to touch it.

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So, with stock wheels on 2013 JKUR, with 35" tires, which lift and what all will I NEED? I know driveshafts may be needed later on, but initially what will I need? Like spacers, etc? And recommendations are welcome like the original post. Looking for similar. Daily driver, some off roading, but mostly trails.... Budget friendly... Around $1k??
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^^^^ And I should mention no bumpers or winches for a while, at least until I can afford them, so I will be light.
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Bds has a lifetime warranty on all their parts. You break a part, they replace it . Out of cold water Michigan .
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I just had the Teraflex 2.5 inch lift installed on my 2012 Wrangler Sport S 2 Dr 3 weeks ago. Tereflex recommended this to me after I told them I wanted to keep the drive shaft angles changes to a min but still fit 35‘s. My lift has the Teraflex coils, Bilstein 5100SE shocks, and Teraflex swaybar disconnects. We went with Method Signature 8.5 inch wheels and LT315/70R-17 BF Goodrich All Terrain tires. The highway ride is very close to the stock ride and we are super happy with off road performance and the look.
My Sport came stock 1 inch lower in front. My shop said not to worry, the Teraflex normally raises the front about 3 inches and the rear about 2 inches. They were spot on since the new ride is level now.
Teraflex is one of the few companies I found that says their 2.5 inch lift is good for 35 inch tires. However, my BF's sometimes had a very slight front rub when backing at full left turn. My shop had seen this before on a few brands of 35 and had no trouble grinding the inside of the front plastic air dam a little at no charge. I can't even see where the grinding was. Off road we experienced no rubbing.
The shop also told me that I would have no trouble with the exhaust being to close to the drive shaft or CV boot for the 2.5 inch lift. After it was installed I climbed underneath and measured a 1.5 inch gap between them. I assume this is enough space for adequate cooling of the plastic protective boot. My shop said that they have to regularly do an exhaust modification for higher lifts than 2.5 inch and this is standard procedure for them on 2012s.
Lastly, don't hesitate to call the companies you are researching to answer your questions. I called Teraflex a number of times and each time they actually picked right up and gave an informative answer.
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I just had the Teraflex 2.5 inch lift installed on my 2012 Wrangler Sport S 2 Dr 3 weeks ago. Tereflex recommended this to me after I told them I wanted to keep the drive shaft angles changes to a min but still fit 35‘s. My lift has the Teraflex coils, Bilstein 5100SE shocks, and Teraflex swaybar disconnects. We went with Method Signature 8.5 inch wheels and LT315/70R-17 BF Goodrich All Terrain tires. The highway ride is very close to the stock ride and we are super happy with off road performance and the look.
My Sport came stock 1 inch lower in front. My shop said not to worry, the Teraflex normally raises the front about 3 inches and the rear about 2 inches. They were spot on since the new ride is level now.
Teraflex is one of the few companies I found that says their 2.5 inch lift is good for 35 inch tires. However, my BF's sometimes had a very slight front rub when backing at full left turn. My shop had seen this before on a few brands of 35 and had no trouble grinding the inside of the front plastic air dam a little at no charge. I can't even see where the grinding was. Off road we experienced no rubbing.
The shop also told me that I would have no trouble with the exhaust being to close to the drive shaft or CV boot for the 2.5 inch lift. After it was installed I climbed underneath and measured a 1.5 inch gap between them. I assume this is enough space for adequate cooling of the plastic protective boot. My shop said that they have to regularly do an exhaust modification for higher lifts than 2.5 inch and this is standard procedure for them on 2012s.
Lastly, don't hesitate to call the companies you are researching to answer your questions. I called Teraflex a number of times and each time they actually picked right up and gave an informative answer.
Attached are photos before and after. Good luck and have fun with whatever your final choice turns out to be!
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Old 09-02-2012, 07:59 PM   #68
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Lol. Ok guys. Not my rig, but I took the picture. Here is a 2.5" TF coil lift flexing out on a trail.



For the $$. Ain't nothing going to touch it.
Wow!!! That is a lot of flex for a 2.5 inch lift. We have the TF coil 2.5 inch lift and swaybar disconnects, I just printed your picture and showed it to my wife who shouted, "Don't even think about it"!! lol

Back to the exhaust/drive shaft clearance issue, the attached photo below shows the clearance in my 2 door after the Teraflex 2.5 inch lift/coil install. As mentioned, it is a 1.5 inch separation at rest. After your photo, I wonder what it will be during full extension. I assume the shaft distance will open away from the exhaust pipe in that case. If the coils compresses all the way to the stop at the far front end of the shaft, that will probably close the distance a little for the short time it is compressed. Again, Teraflex Tech Support said I did not have a problem with only a 2.5 inch lift, so I would like to believe they have done their homework.

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Wow!!! That is a lot of flex for a 2.5 inch lift. We have the TF coil 2.5 inch lift and swaybar disconnects, I just printed your picture and showed it to my wife who shouted, "Don't even think about it"!! lol

Back to the exhaust/drive shaft clearance issue, the attached photo below shows the clearance in my 2 door after the Teraflex 2.5 inch lift/coil install. As mentioned, it is a 1.5 inch separation at rest. After your photo, I wonder what it will be during full extension. I assume the shaft distance will open away from the exhaust pipe in that case. If the coils compresses all the way to the stop at the far front end of the shaft, that will probably close the distance a little for the short time it is compressed. Again, Teraflex Tech Support said I did not have a problem with only a 2.5 inch lift, so I would like to believe they have done their homework.

Thanks for submitting that photo!!
Depends on shock length and downward droop. What size shocks you running?
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The photo above looked like the rubber boot touched the pipe..

Looks like a dirty spot on the top of the pipe?

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Wait. Since my photo was taken from the right side of the Jeep towards the left side, and the front axle is extending off to the right of the picture towards the front of the Jeep, then my logic in the last post must be backwards. As the suspension in front drops, the driveshaft and boot will draw NEARER to the hot exhaust pipe below. So clearance when at rest is nice, but obviously the clearance at full extension is also a concern. I'm very sorry about that.

I'm not sure what my Bilstein 5400SE shock length is so I will try to get it Tuesday from the shop. Not sure what the spot is on the top of the pipe but it may be from my hand and fingers getting in there to measure the distance between it and the boot.

I'm going to do a few of things Tuesday. I will check in with Teraflex Tech Support to find out what there position is about what happens at full extension (especially since I have installed their swaybar disconnects). I'll also check in with my shop. I'm pretty tight with them and may be able to get the Jeep back on a lift ((with the front wheels at full extension) for some experimentation and at least some better pictures. I'll examine the boot and get a better feel for what the spot is on the pipe and if it was actually rubbing. I'll find out what I can.

I don't want to get too far off the purpose of this thread, or raise to many questions we cant answer. But I guess being sure the exhaust/driveshaft spacing is good through the whole range of possible suspension movement is a valid consideration even for 2.5 inch lifts. Since I am driving around a unit that is supposed to work, it's worth some extra questions to the installer and manufacturer who sold me the stuff. I'll report back after they get back from Labor Day.
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Wait. Since my photo was taken from the right side of the Jeep towards the left side, and the front axle is extending off to the right of the picture towards the front of the Jeep, then my logic in the last post must be backwards. As the suspension in front drops, the driveshaft and boot will draw NEARER to the hot exhaust pipe below. So clearance when at rest is nice, but obviously the clearance at full extension is also a concern. I'm very sorry about that.

I'm not sure what my Bilstein 5400SE shock length is so I will try to get it Tuesday from the shop. Not sure what the spot is on the top of the pipe but it may be from my hand and fingers getting in there to measure the distance between it and the boot.

I'm going to do a few of things Tuesday. I will check in with Teraflex Tech Support to find out what there position is about what happens at full extension (especially since I have installed their swaybar disconnects). I'll also check in with my shop. I'm pretty tight with them and may be able to get the Jeep back on a lift ((with the front wheels at full extension) for some experimentation and at least some better pictures. I'll examine the boot and get a better feel for what the spot is on the pipe and if it was actually rubbing. I'll find out what I can.

I don't want to get too far off the purpose of this thread, or raise to many questions we cant answer. But I guess being sure the exhaust/driveshaft spacing is good through the whole range of possible suspension movement is a valid consideration even for 2.5 inch lifts. Since I am driving around a unit that is supposed to work, it's worth some extra questions to the installer and manufacturer who sold me the stuff. I'll report back after they get back from Labor Day.
It's easy to check to see if your drive shaft will make contact with the exhaust crossover during offroad articulation. On a level surface, jack the Jeep up and place jack stands under the frame rails behind the front tires. Disconnect your front sway bar links and let the front axle fully droop without the tires touching the ground. If the front drive shaft doesn't hit...great. If it rests on the exhaust crossover, modifications will be needed.
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Great post! I will take your advice and do it. Thanks!
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Will the Rubicon swaybar disconnect work with the Terraflex 2.5 installed, or will further mods be required?
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Yes, the stock Rubi ESD will work with the TF 2.5" coil lift. I have the same setup and no problems, nothing else required.
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Any of the 2.5'' Rock Krawler lifts would be great. I have the 2.5'' Flex System and couldn't be happier!
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Yes, the stock Rubi ESD will work with the TF 2.5" coil lift. I have the same setup and no problems, nothing else required.
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Hey there Fellow Jeepers.. I am looking at this kit Jeep JK Wrangler Suspension Lift
From what the installer told me all I would need is whats included and the total including install/parts and lifetime warranty from his shop would be 600.00 I thought that sounded great.... ideas? Thoughts? Concerns? I am very VERY light off roader and sadly I really want the lift mainly for looks and the 33/12.5/15 I want with Level 8 rims.

Also, I read about the Geometry? What the heck is that and what should i be concerned about with the lift I am looking at?
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Hey there Fellow Jeepers.. I am looking at this kit Jeep JK Wrangler Suspension Lift
From what the installer told me all I would need is whats included and the total including install/parts and lifetime warranty from his shop would be 600.00 I thought that sounded great.... ideas? Thoughts? Concerns? I am very VERY light off roader and sadly I really want the lift mainly for looks and the 33/12.5/15 I want with Level 8 rims.

Also, I read about the Geometry? What the heck is that and what should i be concerned about with the lift I am looking at?
Just springs and crappy RC shocks?

Need bumpstops/swaybar links/rear brake line extensions

If your looking to save some $$

http://www.quadratec.com/products/16190_2511_07.htm

Everything you need and you can retain your factory shocks. Better yet, get some Rubicon shocks and you don't already have them.

Post locally and ask for help. Promise you someone will jump at the chance to give you a hand. Nothing like learning/wrenching on your own jeep

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Just springs and crappy RC shocks?

Need bumpstops/swaybar links/rear brake line extensions

If your looking to save some $$

Teraflex 1352002 - TeraFlex 2.5" Lift Kit with Shock Adapters for 07-13 Jeep® Wrangler JK 2 Door - Quadratec

Everything you need and you can retain your factory shocks. Better yet, get some Rubicon shocks and you don't already have them.

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Hey there Ken,
Thanks for the advice, can you tell me what makes the RC set crap? I though that for 600 with a lifetime warranty that they must be good?

That TerraFlex one you recommended does look nice, and i like the idea of being able to use my existing shocks since they have only 2000 miles on them lol.
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Thanks for the advice, can you tell me what makes the RC set crap? I though that for 600 with a lifetime warranty that they must be good?

That TerraFlex one you recommended does look nice, and i like the idea of being able to use my existing shocks since they have only 2000 miles on them lol.
Rc springs are know for sagging over time.
For a few more bucks you have yourself a better kit
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Rc springs are know for sagging over time.
For a few more bucks you have yourself a better kit
Ok cool got ya.. What about this set up thru KrawlOffRoad.. I like that they have a layway lol



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Ok cool got ya.. What about this set up thru KrawlOffRoad.. I like that they have a layway lol

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Like this setup! Stock wheels?? Do you need back spacers if you go this route with stock wheels (bigger tires)?
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Like this setup! Stock wheels?? Do you need back spacers if you go this route with stock wheels (bigger tires)?
I currently have the Sahara 18's But will be getting the Level 8 33/12.5/15s wrapped with DuraTrac (Another 1800) LOL.. this Jeep is costing me more than my Acura TL does lol
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I currently have the Sahara 18's But will be getting the Level 8 33/12.5/15s wrapped with DuraTrac (Another 1800) LOL.. this Jeep is costing me more than my Acura TL does lol
Going to be doing the work yourself like suggested or having it done somewhere?
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Going to be doing the work yourself like suggested or having it done somewhere?
I dunno.. i like the idea of it having a warranty if I let someone do it, but think it would be fun to LEARN to do it... So far no one in Minnesota has bitten...
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I dunno.. i like the idea of it having a warranty if I let someone do it, but think it would be fun to LEARN to do it... So far no one in Minnesota has bitten...
I want to find a shop that will let me watch/participate... so I can gain some knowledge and fix/tweak small things.
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I want to find a shop that will let me watch/participate... so I can gain some knowledge and fix/tweak small things.
Same here man
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Same here man
Trust me brother, It's not all that hard.
Once you get under there and install a lift. You will get a better understanding what's going on.
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Trust me brother, It's not all that hard.
Once you get under there and install a lift. You will get a better understanding what's going on.
well thats another issue, I live in an apartment and dont have a garage to play in... *tear

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