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Old 07-10-2013, 11:56 AM   #31
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The good news is a 11 year old rubicon with 200,000 miles has a retail book of $11,175.00

A 15 year old wrangler with 225,000 miles has a $7675.00 retail book.
That will buy alot of repairs!

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Old 07-10-2013, 02:21 PM   #32
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There is a fully refundable plan if you do not use it AND you reach either the miles or the time limit. And mopar does a 12 or 18 month installment plan with zero interest.
The lifetime plan does not have a 100% refund since there is no expiration.
Thanks Noble. PM if you'd like to set up a sale on the Max lifetime plan in the near future, for my 2014 Unlimited (awaiting delivery at this point).

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1. The current value is determined by NADA average retail at time of repair.
2. It is not a cumulative total.
3. Mopar will make a claim up to the current retail value. Id you have a $6000.00 repair and the value is $5000.00 , you will get $5000.00 in reimbursements.
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Thanks! This is exactly the information I was looking for. And after reading the post above by Noble, it looks like almost any repair will be covered being the value of the Wrangler being $$$ after lots of years and mileage.
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Bought my '09 last year with about 36k on it. Bank offered to roll an extended warranty into the loan that will last for the duration of the 5 year loan and up to 100k mileage on the odometer. It covers everything except wear type items. It added $1,500 to my loan. At 44k had to take the jeep into the dealer for starting issues and a leaking steering box. They replaced the starter, steering box, and found driveshaft seal leaking so replaced front driveshaft. It was $2200 in repairs. I had to pay $200 in shop supplies (bogus IMHO) but I got my money's worth out of the warranty in one trip. Everything after is gravy. I didn't used to believe in extended warranties for vehicle's but this is the second one I have had. I now look at it as health insurance for the Jeep. I don't get extended warranties on anything else.
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Thats a great analogy.. Health insurance for your Jeep!! For the average person a $2,200.00 repair is a BIG hit on the budget. If you are living paycheck to paycheck like many people do it can be a major problem. I just wish my health insurance deductible was $100.00.
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And after reading the post above by Noble, it looks like almost any repair will be covered being the value of the Wrangler being $$$ after lots of years and mileage.
As long as you don't mod it and thus they might say that whatever repair that needs to be done was caused by a particular mod.

I'm considering getting the lifetime warranty though Noble but ours is staying close to stock. I don't think that adding door sill guards will void my warranty.
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I'm interested... Is there a lifetime product available for a certified pre-owned still under the factory bumper to bumper (till December anyway)?

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That is one one the best values in the car business!! Unlimited miles, unlimited years!! The only restriction is it is non transferable, and it the coverage will max out at the retail book value of the car at the time. One touchscreen or ecm/pcm going out and you are ahead! I sell them for $1985.00 all day long!
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I sent you a PM john...
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How does it apply if you put a 2.5" Lift Kit on it? I may have to get the dealer to put the kit on so they will still warranty the car?
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A mopar authorized lift , dealer installed will be ok.
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I have an offer from Mopar Vehicle Protection to extend my 3 Year/36,000 Mile Factory Warranty an additional three years on my 2011 Wrangler Unlimited. It's the Maximum Care Plan (Comprehensive coverage of over 5,000 critical components, basically conitnuing my same coverage). The price is $1,489. The representative said the price is not negotiable. A few questions: Do you know if that's true? Also, can I get the same plan through Mopar from my local dealer at a better price? This plan has a $100 deductible for repairs. Do you think this is a good deal? Thanks for any input!
Not a good price. I paid $1250 for 7 years 120,000 miles. Oh, and the price IS negotiable, so tell them to pound sand.
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Not a good price. I paid $1250 for 7 years 120,000 miles. Oh, and the price IS negotiable, so tell them to pound sand.
Must not be Mopar. I have 2nd party contracts i could sell for even cheaper, but i swear by Chrysler Service contracts. 2nd party use non- Mopar parts and remanufactured. And the claims suck! They are basically worth the paper they are written on. In my professional opinion for what its worth..
You get what you pay for.
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Must not be Mopar. I have 2nd party contracts i could sell for even cheaper, but i swear by Chrysler Service contracts. 2nd party use non- Mopar parts and remanufactured. And the claims suck! They are basically worth the paper they are written on. In my professional opinion for what its worth..
You get what you pay for.
Oh crap. I didn't know there were options. I can get a full refund for mine right now, should I do it? Can I call Chrysler and complain that I wanted the Mopar one for lifetime? Do I have any recourse?
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Cancel it now. You cant call chrysler because its a dealership thing.
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My problem with the extended warranty is that the Dealer must first use "authorized remanufactured parts." It is only IF "authorized remanufactured parts" are not available is the Dealer allowed to use new parts. Sorry, replacing a defective part with a part that was defective but then remanufactured does not make sense.
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My problem with the extended warranty is that the Dealer must first use "authorized remanufactured parts." It is only IF "authorized remanufactured parts" are not available is the Dealer allowed to use new parts. Sorry, replacing a defective part with a part that was defective but then remanufactured does not make sense.
Problem solved: use a mopar service contract. New authentic mopar parts, not reman. 2 nd party service contracts use reman or rebuilt.
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Hi Noble,

I respectfully disagree with you regarding the Mopar service contract. I am looking at the Lifetime Max Care service contract from Chrysler. On the first page in the paragraph headed OBTAINING PLAN SERVICE in big bold letters it states "Plan service will be provided or assisted by the Dealer who sold you the Plan, at his place of business, using authorized remanufactured parts. If remanufactured parts are not available, the dealer will use new parts." I have attached page one of the contract for your review.

If you have a different understanding or can supply a different Chrysler contract I would appreciate the opportunity to review it.

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Hi Noble,

I respectfully disagree with you regarding the Mopar service contract. I am looking at the Lifetime Max Care service contract from Chrysler. On the first page in the paragraph headed OBTAINING PLAN SERVICE in big bold letters it states "Plan service will be provided or assisted by the Dealer who sold you the Plan, at his place of business, using authorized remanufactured parts. If remanufactured parts are not available, the dealer will use new parts." I have attached page one of the contract for your review.

If you have a different understanding or can supply a different Chrysler contract I would appreciate the opportunity to review it.

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I should have chosen my words better. What i am referring to is the parts 2nd party service contracts use. Most allow NON AUTHORIZED Mopar remans and rebuilds and even USED PARTS. Chrysler does use "mopar authentic remanufactured "parts for warranty work.
Including factory warranty! There is a big difference. These parts have a Mopar warranty on the part.
If you had a 4 year old jeep that is still under factory powertrain warranty and your engine goes, they will not put a brand new motor in because they dont make them anymore. You get Mopar reman.
If you have a bearing or a chain go in your CVT tranny and it is under warranty they will put a rebuilt in.
The point i was trying to make (and thank you fir the clarification), is that 2nd party service contracts will use any part, even junk yard parts.
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I understand what you are saying Noble and appreciate that you are making a clarification. My point is, if a brand new part and a remanufactured part is available for my warranty claim the dealer is contractually bound to use the remanufactured part.

If I was to put the $2,000 I would spend on the extended warranty in an interest bearing savings or money market account and my Jeep needed repairs four years down the road I would have a pool of money I could spend and receive brand new parts, provided those parts were still in production.
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I understand what you are saying Noble and appreciate that you are making a clarification. My point is, if a brand new part and a remanufactured part is available for my warranty claim the dealer is contractually bound to use the remanufactured part.

If I was to put the $2,000 I would spend on the extended warranty in an interest bearing savings or money market account and my Jeep needed repairs four years down the road I would have a pool of money I could spend and receive brand new parts, provided those parts were still in production.
And you'd be crossing your fingers that the repair was less than your $2k (plus your interest gains). If the cost was less, you'd come out on top for that one. If the cost was greater, you'd be wishing you had paid the $2k up front. Or maybe not, but that's how I approach it.
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Please don't forget that the extended warranty does not cover wear or maintenance items. Please anything that breaks will probably break because of my off roading activities.

Call me cynical, but I find it hard to believe that when the transmission craps out after 70,000 miles that Chrysler will put a new one in under warranty. My personal family experience has been that Chrysler refused to honor the extended warranty my parents purchased on their Grand Cherokee. They said sorry, it was do to wear. You know, that built in obsolescence that Noble spoke about in his post.

Besides, with $2,000 in the repair bank it would only cost me $1,000 if the repair was $3,000. That would have to be one heck of a manufacturers defect to get it covered by the warranty.

I am not knocking people who purchase warranties, I certainly understand the peace of mind angle. I am just saying that people should understand what they are purchasing and how it works.
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Please don't forget that the extended warranty does not cover wear or maintenance items. Please anything that breaks will probably break because of my off roading activities.

Call me cynical, but I find it hard to believe that when the transmission craps out after 70,000 miles that Chrysler will put a new one in under warranty. My personal family experience has been that Chrysler refused to honor the extended warranty my parents purchased on their Grand Cherokee. They said sorry, it was do to wear. You know, that built in obsolescence that Noble spoke about in his post.

Besides, with $2,000 in the repair bank it would only cost me $1,000 if the repair was $3,000. That would have to be one heck of a manufacturers defect to get it covered by the warranty.

I am not knocking people who purchase warranties, I certainly understand the peace of mind angle. I am just saying that people should understand what they are purchasing and how it works.
They replace 70k transmissions all the time. Sounds like you are not a candidate for warranty but a $600.00 repair throws a wrench in more peoples budgets than you think. Not to mention a $3500.00 repair.
Before i got into the car business 14 years ago i thought te same thing. Now that i see it on a daily basis EVERY one of my friends and family i sell to buys one.
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Please don't forget that the extended warranty does not cover wear or maintenance items. Please anything that breaks will probably break because of my off roading activities.

Call me cynical, but I find it hard to believe that when the transmission craps out after 70,000 miles that Chrysler will put a new one in under warranty. My personal family experience has been that Chrysler refused to honor the extended warranty my parents purchased on their Grand Cherokee. They said sorry, it was do to wear. You know, that built in obsolescence that Noble spoke about in his post.

Besides, with $2,000 in the repair bank it would only cost me $1,000 if the repair was $3,000. That would have to be one heck of a manufacturers defect to get it covered by the warranty.

I am not knocking people who purchase warranties, I certainly understand the peace of mind angle. I am just saying that people should understand what they are purchasing and how it works.
It wasn't a Chrysler, but we did just have the transmission in my wife's Chevy replaced. This was at just over 70,000 miles. Covered in full under warranty.
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Thats really the only point im trying to make. Buy a CHRYSLER warranty, not 2nd party.
Chevy doea have a 100k powertrain.
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Thats really the only point im trying to make. Buy a CHRYSLER warranty, not 2nd party.
Chevy doea have a 100k powertrain.
I'll absolutely buy (through Noble). To me, the money is worth the peace of mind that I won't have to worry about a major issue.
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I'm with noble

Cars and in this case Jeeps are made by men and not by god and from time to time things do go wrong. Lets not forget the study that says over half of Americans could not come up with $2000 in 30 days if they had to, and another 18% would have to pawn something to do so.

http://business.time.com/2011/06/01/...2k-in-30-days/

Think of it as insurance, because that's what it is. Would you not have home insurance? Of course not. It's a roll of the dice that's not worth it.

But it is a place where high margins still live at the dealership. Information is power. Shop around and get a good price.
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Just bought a 2014 Unlimited Sport last week with the lifetime warranty. I'm sending you a PM Noble..
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I just bought a 2014 JKU sport-S. Got the lifetime Max-Care, zero $$ Ded., for $4300, bought through dealership. Warranty work is dealer specific. Two dealers in my area are honest, and willingly do warranty work; Harr Jeep in Worcester, and Lahti's Jeep in Leominster. Mods will void large parts of the extended warranties, beware. I don't plan on modding this newest Jeep, so the warranty will be fully usable all through it. You must do all oil changes, fluid changes, and service, as specified in jeep owner's manual and warranty specs. to keep full coverage.
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Hi Noble,

I respectfully disagree with you regarding the Mopar service contract. I am looking at the Lifetime Max Care service contract from Chrysler. On the first page in the paragraph headed OBTAINING PLAN SERVICE in big bold letters it states "Plan service will be provided or assisted by the Dealer who sold you the Plan, at his place of business, using authorized remanufactured parts. If remanufactured parts are not available, the dealer will use new parts." I have attached page one of the contract for your review.

If you have a different understanding or can supply a different Chrysler contract I would appreciate the opportunity to review it.

Thanks!
Anyone have issues with the wording in red above? I am considering buying from Noble, but don't want grief from my local dealer should I need to use the contract. I'm sure it's based on the dealership as to how accomodating they want to be.
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I just bought a 2014 JKU sport-S. Got the lifetime Max-Care, zero $$ Ded., for $4300, bought through dealership.
You could have gotten the same warranty with a $100 ded through Noble for around $1,900.

I did some calculating when I was considering whether to get the $0, $50 or $100 ded on a Max Care lifetime warranty. Unless you'll have more than 15 warranty repairs that exceed the deductible during the entire time you'll own your Jeep the $100 is the most economical plan to purchase.

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